As I fear - no. Re: io ports besides usb audio?

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Soeren!

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 will the neo have some other i/o ports forwarded to the outside besides the
 usb port and audio jack? 
AFAIK unhappyly not.

 i'd be intersted if there is one to do spi with a microcontroller.
 
 if not, would there be one iside the case that may be used? are there some
 schematics for the circuit board yet?

No public schematics yet - from early beginning I tried to motivate
Sean and his team to make this device hardware hackable as well,
to solder some sensors and other stuff ourself to the phone.
But I don't now if I was succsessfull with this (for the v1).

 why? - i'm controlling my home via irda or 433mhz radio - music, mp3
 player, lights, everything. (no, not x10 -- completely homebrew + canbus)
 soldering a 433mhz remote into the case would be great. no, the bluetooth is
 no alternative in this case, since i'd have to write a bluetooth-stack
 for the atmega32-16 that controls it.

You are right, build in 433mhz tranceiver would be funny maby in
later Neo1973 versions?

But you could use a device like a NSLU2 with a bluetooth adapter
and then link the IO on the NSLU2 via Bluetooth to your Neo1973
(using the flexibility of Linux)
So you will not have to write a bluetooth-stack for your atmega,
nor by expensive BlueTooth IC working with this controller.

See what all is addable to the NSLU2:
http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddAThirtyFourPinUniversalConnector

I hope you (and other hardware hackers) are not to much disapointed and
do use OpenMoko and Neo1973 for cool and interesting projects and hacks.
As more is be done, as more is populare to do with OpenMoko Neo1973 as
more it is likly that FIC will support more connectors and build in
things in the later generations of the Neo1973.

Greetings,
rob

PS: Also a simple audio in would be great... but I fear the Neo v1
woun't have it either.

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Some IO hack ideas...Re: As I fear - no. Re: io ports besides usb audio?

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Michel
Salve soeren!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Montag, den 22. Januar 2007 um 17:23h:

 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 05:00:52PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
  I hope you (and other hardware hackers) are not to much disapointed and
  do use OpenMoko and Neo1973 for cool and interesting projects and hacks.
  As more is be done, as more is populare to do with OpenMoko Neo1973 as
  more it is likly that FIC will support more connectors and build in
  things in the later generations of the Neo1973.
 Not at all -- i'll find some... if it all fails, i'll try bitbanging via
 the one that are used micro-sd slot ;)

Hey this sounds good :)))

Quick ideas:
(kiddingSean and all official Neo1973 developer please stop reading
 here - this ideas should give you no reason to do not use the last days
 untill shipping to add some smart solderpoints on the circuit board
 that everyone who will use the SPI, uart I2C or audio-in could hack 
 it and spend some additional jacks to the Neo1973)
 
The external USB could be catched internaly,
the SIM slot could be multiplexed - send a high on one SIM conector
and you could use a small chip to switch this port:
In some of earlier threads are already some ideas around switching
and multiplexing SDIO of the mikroSD and SIM slot
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/60.html

Swithing the SIM port:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000131.html

Happy hacking ;)
rob



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