Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-13 Thread Richard Bennett
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 03:36, Ryan Kline wrote:
 Wouldn't it be hilarious if we finally find a USB power solution
 after spending many hours laboriously building a device only to find
 that Sean has decided to power the USB port.

yes, but that wouldn't solve all the problems:
You'd still have something hanging off the bottom of the phone.
You'd still have trouble getting 5volt out of a 3.3volt phone without emptying 
the battery real fast.
It is still hard to charge the phone while connecting an accessory to it.
Connecting more then one accessory would be a mess.
Many accessories like infra-red eye or RF sender (for remote control 
applications), and many others don't have a USB interface.

Of course, if FIC themselves don't release a flexible accessory platform, like 
the proposed smart-battery with payload, and the NEO becomes popular, a 
company like Velleman for instance might well release a range of accessories.

Cheers,

Richard

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Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-13 Thread Florent THIERY


yes, but that wouldn't solve all the problems:
You'd still have something hanging off the bottom of the phone.



To me, the most valuable feature is the keyboard; a small one, but usable.
And it's not something you use on mobility situation (in the streets...).

With the not-sexy-at-all battery powered usb hub, will a keyboard work
easily? USB keyboard support in the kernel would be sufficient, right?
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Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-13 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 13:05:30 Florent THIERY wrote:

 With the not-sexy-at-all battery powered usb hub, will a keyboard work
 easily? USB keyboard support in the kernel would be sufficient, right?

As for keyboard, you can even use a self powered usb keyboard and not use any 
cabling at all.

An USB one should work with a self powered hub, though.


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Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-13 Thread Richard Bennett
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 13:05, Florent THIERY wrote:
  yes, but that wouldn't solve all the problems:
  You'd still have something hanging off the bottom of the phone.

 To me, the most valuable feature is the keyboard; a small one, but usable.
 And it's not something you use on mobility situation (in the streets...).

 With the not-sexy-at-all battery powered usb hub, will a keyboard work
 easily? USB keyboard support in the kernel would be sufficient, right?

It would seem to be cleaner to use a bluetooth keyboard. No messy cables or 
anything, and it has batteries built-in. There's a few examples on the wiki.

Cheers,

Richard

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Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-13 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 13:16:10 Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
 As for keyboard, you can even use a self powered usb keyboard and not use
 any cabling at all.

Obviously that should read Bluetooth instead of USB.


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Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-12 Thread Florent THIERY

http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/CPH420MP.asp , available on Amazon

There seem to be battery powered usb hubs
**
*Hub 420 MP*


The latest product innovation from CyberPower Systems provides you with the
ability to easily connect and power up to four USB devices without an ac
power adapter. The new Mobile Battery Powered USB 2.0 4-port hub features
rechargeable batteries to power the hub.

Ideally, a double hub only would be better, but this product seems to be the
only one (
http://jrandomhacker.info/Sharp_Zaurus_SL-series/accessories#USB_Devices )
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Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-12 Thread Richard Bennett
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 02:08, Florent THIERY wrote:
 http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/CPH420MP.asp , available on Amazon

 There seem to be battery powered usb hubs
 **
 *Hub 420 MP*
You do run the risk of looking a bit like a nerd with one of those and a few 
USB peripherals hanging off your phone though ;o) 

r


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Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-12 Thread Ryan Kline
Wouldn't it be hilarious if we finally find a USB power solution  
after spending many hours laboriously building a device only to find  
that Sean has decided to power the USB port.


-ryan (always eager to add humor to the subject)

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