Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-07 Thread clare


On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, ian douglas wrote:


Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
I simply agree... JTAG for example, could be needed for standard users only 
after bricking the device, and new/extra batteries will be needed soon!



Any other ideas?


Yes Please a battery charger which can deal with the neo and charge its 
battery; itself powered by AA cell or similar, can be carried with the 
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Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-05 Thread Marc Verwerft
Good idea.
How about cases? Or at least the backpanels. For those who have to
remove the battery every time they power down in order not to drain it
completely.

Regards,

Marc

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:42 AM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
   I simply agree... JTAG for example, could be needed for standard users
   only after bricking the device, and new/extra batteries will be needed
   soon!

  So:

  - batteries
  - headphones
  - JTAG interfaces
  - sylus
  - stylus batteries?

  I'm not sure it's economically worthwihle trying to resell microSD cards
  since that's a well-saturated market, though the convenience of being
  able to purchase them while purchasing other items might be nice?

  Any other ideas?

  -id



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Audio wired Headset

2008-03-04 Thread Gilles Casse
Hi all,

I am a little bit embarrassed: my audio headset is lost, another one
bought recently is not compatible (a 4 ring model for a Nokia, the
resulting sound is too low, almost unusable).

Is it possible to buy a new audio wired headset from OpenMoko.inc?
Otherwise, where can we get one please (OpenMoko distributor?).

The wiki mentions several models.

Analog wired Headset
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to
old-fashioned wired headsets.
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360
have a compatible configuration.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_hardware#Audio

There is a A1200 model in ebay, but it seems to come with a very different
plug :-/

Gilles



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Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-04 Thread joerg
Am Di  4. März 2008 schrieb Gilles Casse:
 Hi all,
 
 I am a little bit embarrassed: my audio headset is lost, another one
 bought recently is not compatible (a 4 ring model for a Nokia, the
 resulting sound is too low, almost unusable).
 
 Is it possible to buy a new audio wired headset from OpenMoko.inc?
 Otherwise, where can we get one please (OpenMoko distributor?).
 
 The wiki mentions several models.
 
 Analog wired Headset
 There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to
 old-fashioned wired headsets.
 The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360
 have a compatible configuration.
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_hardware#Audio

I can't help by selling headsets, but at least i may deliver exact pinout for 
the jack from diagrams, so you might check for compatibility.

base = ground 
speaker left  (internal impedance 33R) to ground. (+jackinsert detection)
speaker right (internal impedance 33R) to ground.
tip = mic electret condenser type, to ground. 
  bias (power for mic) 2K2 from +3.3v(wolfson codec) 
  (+HoldButton shortcircuit to ground)

Due to the internal 33R resistors, any low impedance headset will not work (or 
only low sound). I guess 40R should be minimum impedance for the speakers.

cheers
jOERG

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Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas

Am Di  4. März 2008 schrieb Gilles Casse:

Is it possible to buy a new audio wired headset from OpenMoko.inc?
Otherwise, where can we get one please (OpenMoko distributor?).


I mentioned to Michael at SCALE 2008 that having a 'store' where we 
could buy stray parts, like batteries would be a great idea. He 
mentioned too that selling just the debug board with JTAG connectors, 
etc., would make a lot of sense too.


Michael, any update on this?

-id


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Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-04 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

ian douglas ha scritto:

Am Di  4. März 2008 schrieb Gilles Casse:

Is it possible to buy a new audio wired headset from OpenMoko.inc?
Otherwise, where can we get one please (OpenMoko distributor?).


I mentioned to Michael at SCALE 2008 that having a 'store' where we 
could buy stray parts, like batteries would be a great idea. He 
mentioned too that selling just the debug board with JTAG connectors, 
etc., would make a lot of sense too.


I simply agree... JTAG for example, could be needed for standard users 
only after bricking the device, and new/extra batteries will be needed soon!


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Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
I simply agree... JTAG for example, could be needed for standard users 
only after bricking the device, and new/extra batteries will be needed 
soon!


So:

- batteries
- headphones
- JTAG interfaces
- sylus
- stylus batteries?

I'm not sure it's economically worthwihle trying to resell microSD cards 
since that's a well-saturated market, though the convenience of being 
able to purchase them while purchasing other items might be nice?


Any other ideas?

-id

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