Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
I tried linphone yesterday and it works, today i'll try with the correct alsa state... but seems not that hungry of cpu. d On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009, Daniel Benoy wrote: I'm having lots of fun with Debian. I put an 8GB card in my freerunner, [snip] I'm also interested trying to set up some VoIP stuff but I've yet to find any really suitable software. linphone should be available for debian. It won't switch mixer states automatically but it should at least work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
Daniel, Can you detail further how you got this GPS position thing working? What client/server did you use? Cheers On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name wrote: I'm having lots of fun with Debian. I put an 8GB card in my freerunner, and put Debian, zhone, and illume on it. (Illume is a fairly recent development, and it still doesn't work quite right. Here's how you install it if you're interested: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Illume) Some spiffy projects once you get your OS going: - Bluetooth headsets - GPRS internet access - GPS (I made a page on my Blog that plots my position when the phone is online. It involved setting up dynamic DNS using bind on my personal server. Fun stuff!) - Maybe some games like ScummVM I'm also interested trying to set up some VoIP stuff but I've yet to find any really suitable software. On Wednesday 18 February 2009 06:33:56 you wrote: Hiya gang, After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated on other things (beagleboard/openpandora) I find myself looking at my neo1973 and freerunner gear, and thinking its time to do something interesting with these devices again. But I have no idea what is going on with the FR these days .. So, I turn to you guys: what would you recommend I put on both/either of these machines for a bit of fun today? FDOM, SHR, something else? In terms of easy-to-get fun factor, what do you guys suggest? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
Hi David, There is a how-to write-up for Linphone that I did a while ago that is now at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone . In addition, there is a thread on this mailing list with the subject VoIP on Freerunner working properly (using linphone and SIP) that might be helpful. Regards, Brian___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
right now i'm using debian so linphone comes directly form the repos ;-) last thing, running: alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore I get: No state is present for card neo1973gta02 ...any hint? recently I tried SHR and it's quite ok, even if has not the same amount of programs that debian has... on the other hand shr has a working e17+illume. Maybe shr tips on a debian would be the best choice... hoping for a dream team 'debshr-ized'. d On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Brian Code brian.c...@koolu.com wrote: Hi David, There is a how-to write-up for Linphone that I did a while ago that is now at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone . In addition, there is a thread on this mailing list with the subject VoIP on Freerunner working properly (using linphone and SIP)http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/search/%40subject+%22VoIP+on+Freerunner+working+properly+%28using+linphone+and+SIP%29+%22/openmoko-community that might be helpful. Regards, Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
Alright.
I have my own DNS server and domain running BIND. I created a file named
/etc/network/if-up.d/99dyndns which is called after an interface comes up and
does basically this:
#!/bin/sh
INTERFACE=$1
if [ -z $INTERFACE ]; then
INTERFACE=ppp0
fi
IPADDR=`/sbin/ifconfig $INTERFACE | grep 'inet addr:[0-9]' | awk '{print $2}' |
cut -d: -f2`
if [ -z $IPADDR ]; then
echo No IP found
exit 1
fi
ntpdate time.nist.gov
nsupdate -k /home/root/.dnskeys/Kdynamic.example.com.key.\+187\+59050.private
EOF
server ns.example.com
zone dynamic.example.com
update delete myphone.dynamic.example.com. A
update add myphone.dynamic.example.com. 30 A $IPADDR
show
send
EOF
exit $?
In short, that script calls nsupdate which, using some private key
authentication magic, changes my 'myphone.dynamic.example.com' address to the
IP of my phone's ppp0 interface. So every time I log in to GPRS I become
reachable by that address.
Then, I made up a short script on my blog that creates an outgoing connection
to the gpsd port on my phone's address, and asks it where its current location
is, then renders the results using the google maps API (which is free to use
non-commercially).
Now my friends and family can track me (if I give them the password) every time
I'm on the internet with my phone, complete with spiffy satellite and road maps
and I got it outputting my speed and heading and such as text.
On Thursday 19 February 2009 07:17:32 you wrote:
Daniel,
Can you detail further how you got this GPS position thing working?
What client/server did you use?
Cheers
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name wrote:
I'm having lots of fun with Debian. I put an 8GB card in my freerunner,
and put Debian, zhone, and illume on it. (Illume is a fairly recent
development, and it still doesn't work quite right. Here's how you install
it if you're interested: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Illume)
Some spiffy projects once you get your OS going:
- Bluetooth headsets
- GPRS internet access
- GPS (I made a page on my Blog that plots my position when the phone is
online. It involved setting up dynamic DNS using bind on my personal
server. Fun stuff!)
- Maybe some games like ScummVM
I'm also interested trying to set up some VoIP stuff but I've yet to find
any really suitable software.
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 06:33:56 you wrote:
Hiya gang,
After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated
on other things (beagleboard/openpandora) I find myself looking at my
neo1973 and freerunner gear, and thinking its time to do something
interesting with these devices again. But I have no idea what is
going on with the FR these days ..
So, I turn to you guys: what would you recommend I put on both/either
of these machines for a bit of fun today? FDOM, SHR, something else?
In terms of easy-to-get fun factor, what do you guys suggest?
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Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name wrote: In short, that script calls nsupdate which, using some private key authentication magic, changes my 'myphone.dynamic.example.com' address to the IP of my phone's ppp0 interface. So every time I log in to GPRS I become reachable by that address. Then, I made up a short script on my blog that creates an outgoing connection to the gpsd port on my phone's address, and asks it where its current location is, then renders the results using the google maps API (which is free to use non-commercially). Nice! Mind sharing this blog script, too? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
btw. I think one of the best things you can do is to install 2008.12 and run this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2353361|a2353361 It'll fix about 2e12 issues and thus making it a very usable phone. After this you can install all the required apps from opkg.org r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
Hello Risto, On Thu, February 19, 2009 16:04, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: btw. I think one of the best things you can do is to install 2008.12 and run this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2353361|a2353361 The above link doesn't work for some reason, please share it again since it looks like an interesting issue. -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
On Thursday 19 February 2009 10:41:58 you wrote:
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name wrote:
In short, that script calls nsupdate which, using some private key
authentication magic, changes my 'myphone.dynamic.example.com' address to
the IP of my phone's ppp0 interface. So every time I log in to GPRS I
become reachable by that address.
Then, I made up a short script on my blog that creates an outgoing
connection to the gpsd port on my phone's address, and asks it where its
current location is, then renders the results using the google maps API
(which is free to use non-commercially).
Nice!
Mind sharing this blog script, too?
r
?php
// Read in the line from cache
$fresh = 0;
$cachefile = '/var/cache/gps';
$fh = fopen($cachefile, 'r');
if ($fh) {
$resp = fread($fh, filesize($cachefile));
fclose($fh);
}
// Refresh from GPS only if more than a minute has passed since the creation
time of the cache
if (time() - filemtime($cachefile) 60) {
print Refreshing from live GPS data ... ;
for ($i=0; $i3; $i++) {
$sock = @fsockopen(myphone.dynamic.example.com, 2947, $errno, $errstr, 3);
if ($sock) { break; }
}
if (!$sock) {
print Could not connect to GPS. Using cached data.br/;
} else {
for ($i=0; $i10; $i++) {
@fwrite($sock, O\n); # Query what we actually want
$realresp = @fread($sock, 384);
if (strncmp($realresp, 'GPSD,O=', 7)) {
print !-- Unexpected response from GPS connection. --;
} elseif (strncmp($realresp, 'GPSD,O=?', 8) == 0) {
print !-- The GPS connection responded, but had no fixed location.
--;
} else {
$resp = $realresp;
$fh = fopen($cachefile, 'w');
if ($fh) {
fwrite($fh, $resp);
fclose($fh);
$fresh = 1;
}
print Success!br/;
break;
}
}
if ($i == 10) {
print Failed. Using cached databr/;
}
@fclose($sock);
}
}
//print($resp);
?
script
src=http://maps.google.com/maps?file=apiv=2key=MY-GOOGLE-API-KEY-HERE-GET-YOUR-OWN-FROM-GOOGLE;
type=text/javascript/script
div id=map style=width: 500px; height: 300px/div
script type=text/javascript
//![CDATA[
if (GBrowserIsCompatible()) {
var map = new GMap2(document.getElementById(map));
map.addControl(new GSmallMapControl());
map.addControl(new GMapTypeControl());
}
//]]
/script
?php
// Make sure the data is fresh
if ($fresh || time() - filemtime($cachefile) 900) {
// Parse GPS response
$location = split( , $resp);
?
script type=text/javascript
//![CDATA[
if (GBrowserIsCompatible()) {
map.setCenter(new GLatLng(?php print($location[3])?, ?php
print($location[4])?), 13);
var point = new GPoint(?php print($location[4])?, ?php
print($location[3])?);
var marker = new GMarker(point);
map.addOverlay(marker);
}
//]]
/script
Last update (GPS time): ?php print(date(Y-m-d H:i:s, $location[1]))?br/
Latitude: ?php print($location[3]); ?br/
Longitude: ?php print($location[4]); ?br/
Heading: ?php print($location[8]); ?br/
Ground Speed (km/h): ?php print($location[9] * 3.6); ?br/
?php } else { ?
script type=text/javascript
//![CDATA[
if (GBrowserIsCompatible()) {
map.setCenter(new GLatLng(0, 0), 1);
}
//]]
/script
pUnfortunately, there has been no GPS data update in at least 15 minutes.
This probably means that the phone is currently unreachable./p
pThe phone must be connected to a publicly accessible network, such as
cellular internet GPRS, in order to be reached for GPS location information.
If the phone is connected to a local wireless LAN which is firewalled, or the
phone is off or its GPS receiver is deactivated, then it will be unable to
provide telemetry./p
?php } ?
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Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
oh, thanks: It's the setting builder from Bytestore http://n2.nabble.com/-2008.12--setting-builder-td2353361ef1958.html r On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net wrote: Hello Risto, On Thu, February 19, 2009 16:04, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: btw. I think one of the best things you can do is to install 2008.12 and run this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2353361|a2353361 The above link doesn't work for some reason, please share it again since it looks like an interesting issue. -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
Hiya gang, After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated on other things (beagleboard/openpandora) I find myself looking at my neo1973 and freerunner gear, and thinking its time to do something interesting with these devices again. But I have no idea what is going on with the FR these days .. So, I turn to you guys: what would you recommend I put on both/either of these machines for a bit of fun today? FDOM, SHR, something else? In terms of easy-to-get fun factor, what do you guys suggest? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
for the freerunner i would suggest either SHR unstable or maybe FSO + paroli stuff (haven't tried that one yet) On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Jay Vaughan j...@synth.net wrote: Hiya gang, After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated on other things (beagleboard/openpandora) I find myself looking at my neo1973 and freerunner gear, and thinking its time to do something interesting with these devices again. But I have no idea what is going on with the FR these days .. So, I turn to you guys: what would you recommend I put on both/either of these machines for a bit of fun today? FDOM, SHR, something else? In terms of easy-to-get fun factor, what do you guys suggest? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Jay Vaughan j...@synth.net wrote: Hiya gang, So, I turn to you guys: what would you recommend I put on both/either of these machines for a bit of fun today? FDOM, SHR, something else? In terms of easy-to-get fun factor, what do you guys suggest? Check Kustomizer: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer (0.2 has some issues with audio in games etc. Phone calls work ok) (or devel version at http://www.kurppa.fi/freerunner/kustomizer_devel) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
Jay Vaughan wrote: Hiya gang, After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated on other things (beagleboard/openpandora) I find myself looking at my neo1973 and freerunner gear, and thinking its time to do something interesting with these devices again. But I have no idea what is going on with the FR these days .. So, I turn to you guys: what would you recommend I put on both/either of these machines for a bit of fun today? FDOM, SHR, something else? In terms of easy-to-get fun factor, what do you guys suggest? SHR is nice. Phone and gps works well. Music player can be made to work well too. Lots of games and other software is available at opkg.org. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
SHR is nice. Phone and gps works well. Music player can be made to work well too. Lots of games and other software is available at opkg.org. yeah i'm settling on this for gta01 for now .. it looks pretty well. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
I'm having lots of fun with Debian. I put an 8GB card in my freerunner, and put Debian, zhone, and illume on it. (Illume is a fairly recent development, and it still doesn't work quite right. Here's how you install it if you're interested: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Illume) Some spiffy projects once you get your OS going: - Bluetooth headsets - GPRS internet access - GPS (I made a page on my Blog that plots my position when the phone is online. It involved setting up dynamic DNS using bind on my personal server. Fun stuff!) - Maybe some games like ScummVM I'm also interested trying to set up some VoIP stuff but I've yet to find any really suitable software. On Wednesday 18 February 2009 06:33:56 you wrote: Hiya gang, After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated on other things (beagleboard/openpandora) I find myself looking at my neo1973 and freerunner gear, and thinking its time to do something interesting with these devices again. But I have no idea what is going on with the FR these days .. So, I turn to you guys: what would you recommend I put on both/either of these machines for a bit of fun today? FDOM, SHR, something else? In terms of easy-to-get fun factor, what do you guys suggest? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name writes: I'm also interested trying to set up some VoIP stuff but I've yet to find any really suitable software. netcat works for very simple demonstrations :-) target$ netcat -l -p 1234 | aplay -r 44100 -f S16_LE fr$ alsactl -f voip-handset.state restore fr$ arecord -r 44100 -f S16_LE | netcat target.example.com 1234 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?
On Wednesday 18 February 2009, Daniel Benoy wrote: I'm having lots of fun with Debian. I put an 8GB card in my freerunner, [snip] I'm also interested trying to set up some VoIP stuff but I've yet to find any really suitable software. linphone should be available for debian. It won't switch mixer states automatically but it should at least work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
