Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 13:04 -0600, Steven ** wrote: > I too applied the fix. Or, I should say, got a co-worker to apply the > fix. He worked with surface mount components for a few years and our > lab has all the necessary equipment to do surface mount soldering. As > well as a stock room with a fairly large selection of components. > > It took about an hour because the components are so hard to work with. > I used a tantalum capacitor (as my work's stock room didn't have > ceramic with the needed specs) which made things rather difficult. > The capacitor was just small enough to fit inside the case. But it > could not be positioned as depicted in the white paper. We ended up > soldering some copper ribbon to the exposed pad to "extend" it to the > left in order to place the capacitor between the components on the > right and the screw hole. > > I did not take any pictures (since cameras are forbidden inside my > place of work). > > I have extra capacitors and resistors I don't need/want. I'm not sure > if anyone would want them though, since the capacitor was so hard to > place well. > > -Steven Hi Steven, A thought - as an alternative to using a camera, find a scanner/photocopier multifunction device gadget thing, and stick the circuit board on that - it creates much better images. Some of them have a scan to pdf or tiff, and then fire it to an email address or ftp server - that's what we've done here. Cheers, David > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:44 AM, kimaidou wrote: > > Hi Yoan, > > > > I am about to buy the capacitor and resistor and ask a friend to do the buzz > > fix. Before diving into trouble water, I would really apreciate some > > feedback on your attemp : > > * did you succeed ? > > * is the buzz canceled ? > > * have you taken photographs on your work ? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Kimaidou > > > > 2009/1/6 Yoann ARNAUD > >> > >> kimaidou a écrit : > >> > >> >> Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM > >> >> version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. > >> > >> Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : > >> > >> > >> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf > >> > >> -- > >> Yoann ARNAUD > >> Nantes, France. > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
kimaidou a écrit : > Hi all > > Thanks Yoann for the pictures. I just looked at them, and I have the same > question : what is the other component you solder on the right side ? Is it > for repairing a previous unattempted desoldering ? Yes that's it. It's the C4303 which totally burned when we tried to resoldered it. Hopefully, the fix that we made works. -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Hi all Thanks Yoann for the pictures. I just looked at them, and I have the same question : what is the other component you solder on the right side ? Is it for repairing a previous unattempted desoldering ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Yoann ARNAUD escribió: > Yoann ARNAUD a écrit : > > >> I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. >> > > Here they are : > > http://perso.crans.org/yarnaud/Openmoko/Buzz_Fix/ > > > is this buzz + bass fixes? because the reference pictures from the SOP paper don't show that second thing you soldered (not the yellow one, the other) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Peter Strapp a écrit : > I'm getting a '403 forbidden' message. looks like we don't have read access. Thanks. It's OK now. -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
I'm getting a '403 forbidden' message. looks like we don't have read access. Peter. Yoann ARNAUD wrote: > Yoann ARNAUD a écrit : > > >> I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. >> > > Here they are : > > http://perso.crans.org/yarnaud/Openmoko/Buzz_Fix/ > > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Yoann ARNAUD a écrit : > I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. Here they are : http://perso.crans.org/yarnaud/Openmoko/Buzz_Fix/ -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
I too applied the fix. Or, I should say, got a co-worker to apply the fix. He worked with surface mount components for a few years and our lab has all the necessary equipment to do surface mount soldering. As well as a stock room with a fairly large selection of components. It took about an hour because the components are so hard to work with. I used a tantalum capacitor (as my work's stock room didn't have ceramic with the needed specs) which made things rather difficult. The capacitor was just small enough to fit inside the case. But it could not be positioned as depicted in the white paper. We ended up soldering some copper ribbon to the exposed pad to "extend" it to the left in order to place the capacitor between the components on the right and the screw hole. I did not take any pictures (since cameras are forbidden inside my place of work). I have extra capacitors and resistors I don't need/want. I'm not sure if anyone would want them though, since the capacitor was so hard to place well. -Steven On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:44 AM, kimaidou wrote: > Hi Yoan, > > I am about to buy the capacitor and resistor and ask a friend to do the buzz > fix. Before diving into trouble water, I would really apreciate some > feedback on your attemp : > * did you succeed ? > * is the buzz canceled ? > * have you taken photographs on your work ? > > Thanks in advance > > Kimaidou > > 2009/1/6 Yoann ARNAUD >> >> kimaidou a écrit : >> >> >> Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM >> >> version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. >> >> Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : >> >> >> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf >> >> -- >> Yoann ARNAUD >> Nantes, France. >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
kimaidou a écrit : > Hi Yoan, > > I am about to buy the capacitor and resistor and ask a friend to do the buzz > fix. Before diving into trouble water, I would really apreciate some > feedback on your attemp : Oh yes, I have to do that. I want to make a useful report but I have no time for this > * did you succeed ? Yes, but it was very very hard. And my fix is very ugly. > * is the buzz canceled ? Yes :) > * have you taken photographs on your work ? Yes, but they are poor quality. The coponents are very very small and I had to be close to the phone taking the pictures. I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. Just an advice. Be aware that the coponents of the phone are very small (about 1mm) and it's very hard to desolder just the resistor and not the other neighbour coponents (I desoldered one conensator...) and it's harder to solder the new components. (that's why my fix is ugly because we had to repair that) -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Hi Yoan, I am about to buy the capacitor and resistor and ask a friend to do the buzz fix. Before diving into trouble water, I would really apreciate some feedback on your attemp : * did you succeed ? * is the buzz canceled ? * have you taken photographs on your work ? Thanks in advance Kimaidou 2009/1/6 Yoann ARNAUD > kimaidou a écrit : > > >> Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM > >> version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. > > Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : > > > http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf > > -- > Yoann ARNAUD > Nantes, France. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Yoann ARNAUD wrote: > kimaidou a écrit : > >>> Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM >>> version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. > > Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : > > http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf > http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf is the newer version. Don't know what changed but DRAFT3 is the first public version available and rc2 the latest. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
kimaidou a écrit : >> Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM >> version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf -- Yoann ARNAUD Nantes, France. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Hi Oh yes, please take pictures and give feedback to help people understand the process and evaluate its feasibility. Thanks in advance :D 2009/1/6 Yoann ARNAUD > Hello Community, > > Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM > version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. > > If any of you have some last minute advice to give me, I take :) > > I can take pictures and make a report of my experience if you think > that's necessary. I don't know so just tell me. > > Bye. > > -- > Yoann ARNAUD > Nantes, France. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Hello Community, Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. If any of you have some last minute advice to give me, I take :) I can take pictures and make a report of my experience if you think that's necessary. I don't know so just tell me. Bye. -- Yoann ARNAUD Nantes, France. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
