Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-23 Thread hiciu
Is buzzing issue linked with speaker? When my freerunner has removed case and I'm calling to someone I can hear silent buzzing. But I am sure it comes from back of the phone (near GPS antenna), not from speaker. It is really silent and I can hardly hear it with case putted on. It is there even

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-23 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 24. November 2008 schrieb hiciu: Is buzzing issue linked with speaker? When my freerunner has removed case and I'm calling to someone I can hear silent buzzing. But I am sure it comes from back of the phone (near GPS antenna), not from speaker. It is really silent and I can hardly

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-21 Thread Steve Mosher
phones for sale have a buzzing issue and its confirmed to be hardware related. Will there be a hardware revision? Or I'm a stuck using a soldering iron and new parts to fix it? Please correct me if I'm misinformed. We are actually in the process to figure out how to fix *all* devices sold

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-20 Thread robert lazarski
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mo 17. November 2008 schrieb robert lazarski: Hi all, I'm about to buy an openmoko, as I finally have some time and cash. However, my understanding is that the latest phones for sale have a buzzing issue and its

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-20 Thread robert lazarski
understanding is that the latest phones for sale have a buzzing issue and its confirmed to be hardware related. Will there be a hardware revision? Or I'm a stuck using a soldering iron and new parts to fix it? Please correct me if I'm misinformed. We are actually in the process to figure out how

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-20 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
an openmoko, as I finally have some time and cash. However, my understanding is that the latest phones for sale have a buzzing issue and its confirmed to be hardware related. Will there be a hardware revision? Or I'm a stuck using a soldering iron and new parts to fix it? Please correct me if I'm

[OM2008.9 - FDOM] Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-20 Thread DJDAS
in both hardware revisions): during a call, if the signal strength becomes lower than midrange (looking at the top icon, can't know exactly the level) the buzz appears, while in the middle-high levels I have no buzzing at the other side. Furthermore, when the signal is around the mid range, if I put my

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-20 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: for A7 there's no bugfix changes to expect, except beforementioned big-C rework for buzz issue. There are some minor improvements on audio quality for headset stereo (1u-4.7u). That's no bugfix in the end :-/ Currently we are not planing any hw-fixes for known bugs,

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-20 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
usability will also improve with 2008.11 release. End call / accept call stuff are just UI things, easy to fix, but maybe you should file a bug report about it since otherwise no-one might notice. The buzzing issue is the only real, serious issue. Also, I know everyone loves X, but is it really

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:54:55 +0800 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:05:16AM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: x's internals are definitely up for improvement - callium3d is there to try and fix this by providing a better more organised and better accelerated

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
, if you keep using the Openmoko distro, and responsiveness and touch screen usability will also improve with 2008.11 release. End call / accept call stuff are just UI things, easy to fix, but maybe you should file a bug report about it since otherwise no-one might notice. The buzzing issue is the only

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread kimaidou
the Openmoko distro, and responsiveness and touch screen usability will also improve with 2008.11 release. End call / accept call stuff are just UI things, easy to fix, but maybe you should file a bug report about it since otherwise no-one might notice. The buzzing issue is the only real

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le lundi 17 novembre 2008, kimaidou a écrit : About the buzzin issue, I would like to be sure : is it or is it not hardware related ? I heard about a soldering fix of one electronic component which could get rid of the interferences... Has anyone more information ? It is hardware related and

Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-17 Thread robert lazarski
Hi all, I'm about to buy an openmoko, as I finally have some time and cash. However, my understanding is that the latest phones for sale have a buzzing issue and its confirmed to be hardware related. Will there be a hardware revision? Or I'm a stuck using a soldering iron and new parts to fix

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Iain B. Findleton
So far, on the FR, I remain to be convinced that the use of X is the critical performance issue. In any event, the main issue with optimization efforts is whether they can proceed faster than the introduction of better hardware. If a 400 Mhz machine is too slow, will a 1 Ghz machine be fast

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:46 AM, kimaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok thanks, I have just read the hundreds if topics on it... the problem is I am no electronicien so I did not understand if a workaround has been found : I read about soldering, sticky tape. If there is a workaround, is

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread kimaidou
It does require special skills and tools. If the posts in the hardware list were not enough for you to see the fix then you shouldn't attempt it. Angus Hum Sorry to ask again, but.. A solution has been found ? Or this solderings and pin things are for tests purposes only ? If the

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-17 Thread Leonti Bielski
. But it doesn't mean if you buy your phone now it will have this problem - it depends a lot on operator, frequency and other stuff - some people have it, some just reading mailing lists and wondering what is this buzzing issue :) But in your place I would wait a little to don't have to solder

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Gothnet
Iain B. Findleton wrote: the main issue with optimization efforts is whether they can proceed faster than the introduction of better hardware. If a 400 Mhz machine is too slow, will a 1 Ghz machine be fast enough? Will anything be fast enough? Apparently, from the history of desktops,

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-16 Thread John Lee
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:05:16AM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: x's internals are definitely up for improvement - callium3d is there to try and fix this by providing a better more organised and better accelerated driver layer - but again - they aren't going to replace x... just clean up

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-16 Thread Lally Singh
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:49 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:22:29 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On 15 Nov 2008, at 07:08, Kishore wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2008 8:13:20 pm Gothnet wrote: Also, I know everyone loves X, but is

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:22:29 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On 15 Nov 2008, at 07:08, Kishore wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2008 8:13:20 pm Gothnet wrote: Also, I know everyone loves X, but is it really the best choice for a low powered device that needs a responsive UI? ...

Re: Buzzing

2008-11-15 Thread Yorick Moko
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never experienced buzzing different from one in my Nokia 6230i with any software. I never experienced White Screen of Death. I experienced echo, but AT%N0187 works well. It seems that GTAs02v5 were lucky :) nope I

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-15 Thread Kishore
On Saturday 15 Nov 2008 3:19:10 pm Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:22:29 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On 15 Nov 2008, at 07:08, Kishore wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2008 8:13:20 pm Gothnet wrote: Also, I know everyone loves X, but is it really the best choice for

Re: Buzzing

2008-11-15 Thread Chris Samuel
- Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Samuel wrote: Hi Chris, Hiya, I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? For the other party, and tweaking the gsmhandset.state is not helping (for me at least

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:07:25 +0530 Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Raster! Wow! Thanks for the detailed response. Really good to know :) Well, I certainly do not think that direct fb is a better option over X. It sure is crippling to not have multiple apps have access to the screen while

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Torsten Sievers
bit special, but i can mostly live with that, somehow and i accept it, knowing it is still not production ready. What really is a joke and absolutly unacceptable for me is the Buzzing and even more of a joke is the fact that the OM-folks doesn't recognize this as an absolute 100% Showstopper

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Gothnet
To add my two pence-worth about the joke comment - I have a very high tolerance to stuff not working. or not working smoothly. Most of my computers are broken in some way at any given time. However, when forced to rely on it for a month, even I got annoyed with the freerunner running OM

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Jacob Peterson
I know the buzzing issue had quite a bit of attention from the Openmoko team, judging from watching the traffic on the Hardware and Kernel mailing lists. So I don't think they have given up on that, but it doesn't seem like there is any set solution for current devices, only anecdotal reports

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Gothnet
Jacob Peterson wrote: I know the buzzing issue had quite a bit of attention from the Openmoko team, judging from watching the traffic on the Hardware and Kernel mailing lists. So I don't think they have given up on that, but it doesn't seem like there is any set solution for current

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Jacob Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the buzzing issue had quite a bit of attention from the Openmoko team, judging from watching the traffic on the Hardware and Kernel mailing lists. So I don't think they have given up on that, but it doesn't seem

Re: Buzzing

2008-11-14 Thread Chris Samuel
- Torsten Sievers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What really is a joke and absolutly unacceptable for me is the Buzzing I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? I've never experienced a buzzing on my end of my phone

Re: Buzzing

2008-11-14 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 22:26, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? I've never experienced a buzzing on my end of my phone (GTA02, rev 5 I think, purchased July/August

Re: Buzzing

2008-11-14 Thread Michel
Chris Samuel wrote: Hi Chris, I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? For the other party, and tweaking the gsmhandset.state is not helping (for me at least). I've never experienced a buzzing on my end of my phone

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Kishore
On Friday 14 Nov 2008 8:13:20 pm Gothnet wrote: Also, I know everyone loves X, but is it really the best choice for a low powered device that needs a responsive UI? I am just curious about this. I hope someone can comment on this. My thought is that X is used because most apps that already

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Stroller
On 15 Nov 2008, at 07:08, Kishore wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2008 8:13:20 pm Gothnet wrote: Also, I know everyone loves X, but is it really the best choice for a low powered device that needs a responsive UI? ... I still would like to know more in terms of performance and memory

GSM interference / buzzing sound Update

2008-08-26 Thread Yorick Moko
Read all about it on http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-August/000415.html (for people that don't read the hardware list) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GSM interference / buzzing sound Update

2008-08-26 Thread arne anka
Read all about it on http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-August/000415.html (for people that don't read the hardware list) most interesting, thank you very much. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GSM interference / buzzing sound Update

2008-08-26 Thread Mike Baroukh
thanks a lot. I hope they will provide an how-to we can do ourselves to remove this sound problem ... I'm tired to have to shout when using my Neo ... Yorick Moko a écrit : Read all about it on http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-August/000415.html (for people that don't read

Re: Buzzing on GSM audio

2008-07-26 Thread rakshat hooja
Belgium (JIMmobile) and I also have this problem with the 2007.2 image, with our without wifi or gps there isn't much static on my end, but the volume is quite low the other end also has low volume and when i increase his/her volume they get an echo