Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
I never ended up configuring my FreeRunner to do anything automatically before I go to bed because there is no reason to do so: no one calls me during the night, and even if they did, I would probably sleep through it because I sleep through the cordless phone in my room ringing. Shutting down my Nokia 6103b before going to bed is practical because it boots in about 5 seconds, but I try to always keep my FreeRunner charged because it takes so much longer to boot (using QtMoko v11 installed in the onboard NAND). While I am at home, I leave my FreeRunner connected to my PC via USB to charge, so it is easier to leave my FreeRunner suspended while I sleep than shut it down before going to bed and boot it again after I get up, which is usually still in the morning during the week, but often after noon on the weekend. ;) Incidentally, I noticed Alishams Hassam (Ali) replied in this thread before I was introduced to him by his reply to my thread “OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?”, which I started on 2009-09-10. I have met Alishams twice in Vancouver and chatted with him on the phone (on our US FreeRunners. We both even use the same carrier: Fido.); I like him so far. I hope we can become closer friends. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM, arne ankaopenm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP i do it ;P power on connect adapter (it wcharges) power off you go to sleep tested it yesterday, rather by accident (fso5.5/debian). since i got autosuspend running, the fr uses to nod off even when on power and last night it was at about 85%, when nodding off -- remembering this thread and being curious, i let ist sleep for several minutes (almost 30, i guess) and after resuming the charging level was at 92%. i noticed too, that charging while in suspend mode is slow :( not really cheched why, though ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On 8/4/09, PaulTT pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM, arne ankaopenm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP i do it ;P power on connect adapter (it wcharges) power off you go to sleep tested it yesterday, rather by accident (fso5.5/debian). since i got autosuspend running, the fr uses to nod off even when on power and last night it was at about 85%, when nodding off -- remembering this thread and being curious, i let ist sleep for several minutes (almost 30, i guess) and after resuming the charging level was at 92%. i noticed too, that charging while in suspend mode is slow :( not really cheched why, though For me suspending causes charging way faster... ;x -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Charging in suspend (was: Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?)
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com writes: i noticed too, that charging while in suspend mode is slow :( not really cheched why, though For me suspending causes charging way faster... ;x That looks to be correct, as almost all 500mA from USB will go to charge battery. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 09:27:26PM -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote: On Saturday 25 July 2009 04:36:26 pm Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:02:32PM -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote: Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP It charges fine while it is off, just not faster than 500 mA. When did this change, I don't know if it has changed. You could charge the FR while it was off even back in the OM 2008.8, kernel 2.6.24 days. the last I knew, other wise when I bought it, the wiki said that it doesn't charge while it is off. There is much outdated or outright incorrect information in the wiki, and I too am guilty in not correcting it when I come across some. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I You can install core-utils package and use cron to shut it down automatically at 22:00. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: 2009/7/27 Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. That could be interpreted as meaning I frequently forget to go to bed too. Heh. I actually *do* have an alarm that goes off every night to remind me to go to bed. I got the idea from an old Superman Bizarro World comic. No, the phones I have do not wake me. A phone that literally rings (i.e., has a real bell instead of an electronic tone) may wake me, though. :) I suggest this rotary ring, which I use as my default ring tone: http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=15826 I'd use a cron job that calls shutdown, but that first checks if your phone is off the hook (well, I guess we already know the Freerunner is off the hook). I'd probably also check if there had been any recent screen input. In this case you literally meant off the hook, but at first I thought you meant “no longer responsible for”. :) Yeah, language is funny. For some reason the slang in my part of the US (I don't know about elsewhere) has evolved so that off the hook now means fantastic! Perhaps a confusion with off the charts? To save the battery in case you forgot to plug it in? Yes, this is what I was thinking of. I am afraid to leave battery-powered devices plugged in (line-powered) all the time, though, because doing so seems to kill laptop batteries. That's a good question, whether constant charging shortens the lifespan of a Li battery, which I'm sure someone more knowledgeable on this list will answer. From personal experience, I believe that to be true, but my feeling is that I'll just keep it charging and replace the batteries once in a while. They're not as expensive as laptop batteries. Also, I've heard that lithium batteries have a limited lifespan even when they're not being used. A cron job would work to shut it down, but you could add a couple lines in the script to skip it if the battery is already charging. Or if I am using the phone. ;) It should inject audio into the conversation. Pardon me for interrupting, this is your Freerunner talking. I just wanted to let you know that it is now past your bedtime. ;-) --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Constant charging of LiIon battery (was: Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?)
Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net writes: Yes, this is what I was thinking of. I am afraid to leave battery-powered devices plugged in (line-powered) all the time, though, because doing so seems to kill laptop batteries. That's a good question, whether constant charging shortens the lifespan of a Li battery, which I'm sure someone more knowledgeable on this list will answer. From personal experience, I believe that to be true. Same for me, i believe my laptop battery was killed by constant charging. Other reports and advices found on the internet suggest that to be the likely case. For FR, however, there shouldn't be much concern as it cuts off charging the battery as soon as it's full and then reenables the charging at approx 75-80%. Ensure you use a recent Qi (at least 2 Jun 2009) because if you don't the PMU might not detect battery full condition properly due to GSM modem drawing power directly from the battery terminals. I'm currently working on patches to finally bring sanity to the charging/discharging batteries on FR, including dumb batteries (yes, you can use your favourite dirt-cheap BL-5C now and you'll even see how much charge is left there), so stay tuned. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Adam Jimersonvend...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009 06:56:22 pm Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP i do it ;P power on connect adapter (it wcharges) power off you go to sleep in the morning it's charged ;P om2008.12 with kernel hand-updated now i'm testing shr in these days, but on the sd, this night it seems to have charged only at 60%, i'll check this better ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP i do it ;P power on connect adapter (it wcharges) power off you go to sleep tested it yesterday, rather by accident (fso5.5/debian). since i got autosuspend running, the fr uses to nod off even when on power and last night it was at about 85%, when nodding off -- remembering this thread and being curious, i let ist sleep for several minutes (almost 30, i guess) and after resuming the charging level was at 92%. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
2009/7/27 Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. That could be interpreted as meaning I frequently forget to go to bed too. ;) Hmmm... I think the solution depends on why you're shutting down your cell phone at night. To prevent calls from waking you? No, the phones I have do not wake me. Try a cron job that changes your default ring style to silent (and resets it in the morning). A phone that literally *rings* (i.e., has a real bell instead of an electronic tone) may wake me, though. :) To save electricity, and thus the earth from global climate change? I was thinking more of “to save the battery runtime for when I am awake and can actually use the phone”, but I guess it could be considered to be preventing (or at least reducing) climate change too. I already have 2 tower PCs running almost all the time at home, but at least they both have 80plus PSUs. My tower PC at work is running almost all the time too, but it needs to be running at night for the backup system. It has an 80plus PSU too. I'd use a cron job that calls shutdown, but that first checks if your phone is off the hook (well, I guess we already know the Freerunner is off the hook). I'd probably also check if there had been any recent screen input. In this case you literally meant off the hook, but at first I thought you meant “no longer responsible for”. :) To save the battery in case you forgot to plug it in? Yes, this is what I was thinking of. I am afraid to leave battery-powered devices plugged in (line-powered) all the time, though, because doing so seems to kill laptop batteries. A cron job would work to shut it down, but you could add a couple lines in the script to skip it if the battery is already charging. Or if I am using the phone. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
Am Dienstag, 28. Juli 2009 12:47:25 schrieb Brolin Empey: 2009/7/27 Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. That could be interpreted as meaning I frequently forget to go to bed too. ;) LOL. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:02:32PM -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009 06:56:22 pm Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP It charges fine while it is off, just not faster than 500 mA. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Saturday 25 July 2009 04:36:26 pm Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:02:32PM -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009 06:56:22 pm Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP It charges fine while it is off, just not faster than 500 mA. When did this change, the last I knew, other wise when I bought it, the wiki said that it doesn't charge while it is off. -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. Hmmm... I think the solution depends on why you're shutting down your cell phone at night. To prevent calls from waking you? Try a cron job that changes your default ring style to silent (and resets it in the morning). To save electricity, and thus the earth from global climate change? I'd use a cron job that calls shutdown, but that first checks if your phone is off the hook (well, I guess we already know the Freerunner is off the hook). I'd probably also check if there had been any recent screen input. To save the battery in case you forgot to plug it in? A cron job would work to shut it down, but you could add a couple lines in the script to skip it if the battery is already charging. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
When did this change, the last I knew, other wise when I bought it, the wiki said that it doesn't charge while it is off. It always charged while off-just at 100MA, which takes fucking forever. So charging, but barely. I can confirm this from having a flat battery within the first day of using my freerunner (first shipment), and plugging it in to the charger to charge enough capacity to boot. Care to direct me to the wiki page that stated the incorrect info? (we can also check the hist on the page to see when/if it was changed). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Saturday 25 July 2009 08:41:52 pm Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/7/26 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: Only downsides to using ffalram for this first no reoccurring alarm support yet and second there is no way to add a note or any kind of message reminding you why the alarm is going off leaving the user having to remember why they set the alarm, don't know if this is by design or not implemented yet or what. i think dates will do this Dates doesn't support an alarm, or I never had one go off on me anyways, but I know gpe-calendar does through the at deamon so that may work. -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
iirc there's a tool called ffalarm to handle exact that case. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Saturday 25 July 2009 08:06:48 am arne anka wrote: iirc there's a tool called ffalarm to handle exact that case. Only downsides to using ffalram for this first no reoccurring alarm support yet and second there is no way to add a note or any kind of message reminding you why the alarm is going off leaving the user having to remember why they set the alarm, don't know if this is by design or not implemented yet or what. -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
2009/7/26 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: Only downsides to using ffalram for this first no reoccurring alarm support yet and second there is no way to add a note or any kind of message reminding you why the alarm is going off leaving the user having to remember why they set the alarm, don't know if this is by design or not implemented yet or what. i think dates will do this ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
Hello list, I still have not received my FreeRunner, but UPS says the package is scheduled to be delivered on Tuesday. Anyway, I have found Yet Another limitation of my Nokia 6103b. I am almost certain the FreeRunner will be able to do what I need, but I wanted to ask how. I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. I used to have an alarm in my Palm Z22 (which is a PDA only, not a phone) that sounded every day at 22:00 to remind me to shut down my cell phone. I no longer have that alarm because I had to stop using my Palm Z22 because its touch screen no longer works except when it is cold (see my previous message to this list about the reliability of resistive touch screens). I thought it would make more sense to have my cell phone remind me to shut it down instead of having another device remind me to shut down my cell phone, but the best I can do with my Nokia 6103b is have an alarm that sounds every day at 22:00 even if I have already shut down the Nokia 6103b by then. It is obviously pointless to have the Nokia 6103b remind me to shut it down when it has already been shut down, but I asked Nokia if the Nokia 6103b could do what I wanted and they answered no. So, how can I do this with my FreeRunner? :) Thanks, Brolin -- Sometimes I forget how to do small talk: http://xkcd.com/222/ “What if there were no hypothetical questions?” — George Carlin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 00:44, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: Hello list, I still have not received my FreeRunner, but UPS says the package is scheduled to be delivered on Tuesday. Anyway, I have found Yet Another limitation of my Nokia 6103b. I am almost certain the FreeRunner will be able to do what I need, but I wanted to ask how. I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. I used to have an alarm in my Palm Z22 (which is a PDA only, not a phone) that sounded every day at 22:00 to remind me to shut down my cell phone. I no longer have that alarm because I had to stop using my Palm Z22 because its touch screen no longer works except when it is cold (see my previous message to this list about the reliability of resistive touch screens). I thought it would make more sense to have my cell phone remind me to shut it down instead of having another device remind me to shut down my cell phone, but the best I can do with my Nokia 6103b is have an alarm that sounds every day at 22:00 even if I have already shut down the Nokia 6103b by then. It is obviously pointless to have the Nokia 6103b remind me to shut it down when it has already been shut down, but I asked Nokia if the Nokia 6103b could do what I wanted and they answered no. So, how can I do this with my FreeRunner? :) Thanks, Brolin Simply. Use at, or cron... Or write python or even bash script... You can also do automatic change profile to silend instead of shutting down... That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Friday 24 July 2009 06:56:22 pm Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
2009/7/24 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com Simply. Use at, or cron... Or write python or even bash script... You can also do automatic change profile to silend instead of shutting down... That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. If I create a cron job that runs every day at 22:00, will the cron job run even if I have already shut down my FreeRunner by 22:00? I guess not, but I wanted to ask to be certain. Also, what is the best program to use for this reminder as the command in the crontab entry? Does the FreeRunner even have an “off” state like a desktop computer, or does the power button (I assume it has a power button, or a button that functions as a power button, like the End Call button on my Nokia 6103b and I think on most other Nokia cell phones?) put it in a sleep state like my Palm Z22, where all alarms still work? I quoted “off” because I know a modern IBM PC-compatible computer, for example, is never truly/completely off because the real-time clock, for example, is always running. On an ATX motherboard, the +5V standby is still on even when the soft power switch on the front of the case says the PC is off. AFAIK, when a user says their modern PC is “off”, they really mean it is in ACPI state 5. Is that right? I do not remember the details about the ACPI states. Would it be better to use a task/todo list application or some type of scheduling application that is always running (as a daemon, for example) to remind me to shut down my FreeRunner? I know there are many ways of using Linux to accomplish my goal, but I do not know what the best way is because I have not needed to do this with a Linux computer before. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 01:24, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: 2009/7/24 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com Simply. Use at, or cron... Or write python or even bash script... You can also do automatic change profile to silend instead of shutting down... That's Linux box which fits in your pocket. You can do everything. If I create a cron job that runs every day at 22:00, will the cron job run even if I have already shut down my FreeRunner by 22:00? I guess not, but I wanted to ask to be certain. If you'll use RTC clock, then it will turn on or resume from suspend. If you won't, then it'll stay off. Also, what is the best program to use for this reminder as the command in the crontab entry? Well, you can just write python script in few lines. Does the FreeRunner even have an “off” state like a desktop computer, or does the power button (I assume it has a power button, or a button that functions as a power button, like the End Call button on my Nokia 6103b and I think on most other Nokia cell phones?) put it in a sleep state like my Palm Z22, where all alarms still work? I quoted “off” because I know a modern IBM PC-compatible computer, for example, is never truly/completely off because the real-time clock, for example, is always running. On an ATX motherboard, the +5V standby is still on even when the soft power switch on the front of the case says the PC is off. AFAIK, when a user says their modern PC is “off”, they really mean it is in ACPI state 5. Is that right? I do not remember the details about the ACPI states. Dunno much about hardware, but poweroff or halt commands are working on FR, and they are turning it off. There is RTC clock running, but I think it comes from internal battery (which is used to keep you date/time setting) Would it be better to use a task/todo list application or some type of scheduling application that is always running (as a daemon, for example) to remind me to shut down my FreeRunner? It depends. If you already want to use such application, then probably better choise is using it. I know there are many ways of using Linux to accomplish my goal, but I do not know what the best way is because I have not needed to do this with a Linux computer before. Just be creative :) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
2009/7/25 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently it may be easier to schedule a cron job which shuts the phone down for you. sounding an alarm to remind you to do something the phone can do, sounds like it's missing the point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
2009/7/24 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com 2009/7/25 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently it may be easier to schedule a cron job which shuts the phone down for you. sounding an alarm to remind you to do something the phone can do, sounds like it's missing the point I may be using the phone at 22:00, though, in which case I do not want it to automatically shut down. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
Brolin Empey wrote: 2009/7/24 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com 2009/7/25 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently it may be easier to schedule a cron job which shuts the phone down for you. sounding an alarm to remind you to do something the phone can do, sounds like it's missing the point I may be using the phone at 22:00, though, in which case I do not want it to automatically shut down. :) Well, there are ways around that, too. As an example, your script could start by popping up an xmessage on the screen asking the user if he wants to shut down now, with a No button that stops the process, and a timeout in case the user isn't there. Then, it could call shutdown with a delay (e.g. shutting down in 5 minutes instead of now), this will send a message to users logged in via other ways than X (e.g. via ssh), and can also be cancelled. The user would then have 5 minutes to cancel the shutdown (using shutdown -c), after that it would shut down on its own. Of course, similar methods could be used to just give a reminder as well. E.g., use an audio player (aplay, ogg123, ...) to make a sound, and pop up a message similar to the one above (though perhaps without timeout, just the Yes/No buttons, or just OK if you want it manual). I'll admit to not being very up on current events though, so there might be better ways of doing those things (playing sound, showing message/question, shutting down) in the framework, instead of the common *nix utilities I'm considering. -EdorFaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
