Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi Michael, Hi Joseph, Going back to your previous email first: Fortunately we have a watchful community to catch our mistakes as quickly as possible! Please continue to let me know if we make such mistakes in the future. Please understand that I wasn't trying to suggest any mistakes had been made, No worries. I didn't think you had, but I did use the opportunity that you brought it up to explain our policy. I was just after a little clarification. Really I was hoping that you'd give us some secret extra details ;-) Nice try! Your goal of keeping the project running on non region/religion/cultural time lines is a laudable one, but I'm so eagerly looking forward to the FreeRunner release that I wanted to know more! We appreciate your enthusiasm. My employer is looking to eventually purchase a couple of hundred FreeRunners, and we're all itching to buy a smaller batch for test purposes. We're not so interested in all the features, and aren't worried if we're not going to be buying a consumer ready phone platform; we want to build a tool, and the FreeRunner looks like the best base for it. Sounds like a perfect match. We look forward to seeing what you build. Having said that, I need to write a paper for an upcoming conference during which I'll be making just that point. All the best, Joseph Best wishes, Michael On 10/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Joseph, If we knew the date with 100% certainty I would certainly share it with you. As we have seen there is no standard meaning to the word quarter either. I'll go back to months. That's still somewhat Western-centric but perhaps sufficiently accepted that it should not cause trouble. Michael Joseph Reeves wrote: Talk of quarters might be more helpful (and standard within the business world), but a date would be even better! Joseph (waiting with anticipation) On 10/01/2008, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an excellent description because they don't want to be specific! Push it more and I could see them just saying It'll be out in 2008. -Steven On Jan 9, 2008 6:51 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Bailes wrote: FreeRunner is due for release at the end of Spring, but which Spring is this? East Asia? US? Europe? I have to say, spring is a bad description of when FreeRunner will be released, though from my knowledge East Asia, the US and Europe all have spring at the same time +- 24 hours. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be spring in the southern hemisphere since that's still ten and a half months away. Amen. Using seasons for describing milestones (a common US behaviour) or even worse using holidays (e.g. we'll release that by Thanksgiving), is always the *wrong* thing to do. -- Rod (who is south of the equator, and also on a half-hour timezone) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
I would assume the difference to be fiscal vs calendar year. My workplace uses Oct 1st to the start of their fiscal year, with project funding and reseting of vacation time being based around this. For other things we refer to particular quarters of the calendar year. I think expressing things as quarters is acceptable and obvious as long as it was stated as 2nd quarter - calendar year or something similar. I don't care whether months or quarters are used, but think either would be valid to use as the core team sees fit. -J Heilpern, Mark wrote: The difference between fiscal year and calendar year, I suppose? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven ** Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:09 PM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: Community update, January 2, 2008 At my employer, 1st quarter starts October 1st. See what I mean about no standard? -Steven On Jan 10, 2008 10:48 AM, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, one year is 12 months so one quarter is 3 months, and then: 1st day of 1st quarter = january 1 1st day of 2nd quarter = april 1 and so on... Don't tell us you will release gta02 for the second quarter of 2008 :) Sebastien ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community NOTE: The information in this message is intended for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. To the extent the recipient(s) is/are bound by a non-disclosure agreement, or other agreement that contains an obligation of confidentiality, with AuthenTec, then this message and/or any attachments shall be considered confidential information and subject to the confidentiality terms of that agreement. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient named above, you are notified that you have received this document in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please delete the original message and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. AuthenTec, Inc. http://www.authentec.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
Hello everyone, I'm going to ask possibly a simple question, but one that's quite important to me and the company I work for. FreeRunner is due for release at the end of Spring, but which Spring is this? East Asia? US? Europe? I'm in the UK and greatly looking forward to the FreeRunner, but we're not even into the worst of Winter yet. Thanks, Joseph On 03/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Next week at CES we will formally preview GTA02 to the public. We are doing this at an invitation-only media event, and not the general show floor. To coincide with this we are sending out a press release tomorrow morning. The bulk of the press release discusses the hardware features of GTA02, of which you are all well aware. I would like to let you know of two new items: 1. GTA02 is given a name: FreeRunner 2. We think that FreeRunner will be available in spring. This is based on our estimation of what remains to be done with regards to hardware testing and software test. We will be showing a prototype of GTA02 hardware, aimed at software developers. It is not consumer-ready software. To quote the press release: The FreeRunner will be previewed at CES and ship later this spring-- first to developers and then to end users as software for the new hardware features becomes available. Other minor updates: We still have not received the signed agreement from TI allowing you to upgrade your own GSM firmware, so those of you who need the new firmware in order to use your SIM card should allow me to do it for you. Contact me off-list for my shipping address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to help us close bugs? We have made a massive attempt to sort the bugs in Bugzilla. A host of bugs that need work are owned by me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and community participation on these is particularly welcome. Some need to be fixed, some need to be confirmed fixed or not reproducible, and others need a decision as to whether they are worth fixing or not. Take a look at these bugs and let me know if any speak to you. That's all for now. If any of you will be at CES drop me a line and we'll see if we can connect. We have a pretty busy schedule but I will especially try to make time to see OpenMoko community members. Best wishes, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
Hello Joseph, The spring we're talking about is spring in North America, but please note that this is an estimate, not a guarantee, and please note that the software will not be consumer ready. Michael Joseph Reeves wrote: Hello everyone, I'm going to ask possibly a simple question, but one that's quite important to me and the company I work for. FreeRunner is due for release at the end of Spring, but which Spring is this? East Asia? US? Europe? I'm in the UK and greatly looking forward to the FreeRunner, but we're not even into the worst of Winter yet. Thanks, Joseph On 03/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Next week at CES we will formally preview GTA02 to the public. We are doing this at an invitation-only media event, and not the general show floor. To coincide with this we are sending out a press release tomorrow morning. The bulk of the press release discusses the hardware features of GTA02, of which you are all well aware. I would like to let you know of two new items: 1. GTA02 is given a name: FreeRunner 2. We think that FreeRunner will be available in spring. This is based on our estimation of what remains to be done with regards to hardware testing and software test. We will be showing a prototype of GTA02 hardware, aimed at software developers. It is not consumer-ready software. To quote the press release: The FreeRunner will be previewed at CES and ship later this spring-- first to developers and then to end users as software for the new hardware features becomes available. Other minor updates: We still have not received the signed agreement from TI allowing you to upgrade your own GSM firmware, so those of you who need the new firmware in order to use your SIM card should allow me to do it for you. Contact me off-list for my shipping address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to help us close bugs? We have made a massive attempt to sort the bugs in Bugzilla. A host of bugs that need work are owned by me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and community participation on these is particularly welcome. Some need to be fixed, some need to be confirmed fixed or not reproducible, and others need a decision as to whether they are worth fixing or not. Take a look at these bugs and let me know if any speak to you. That's all for now. If any of you will be at CES drop me a line and we'll see if we can connect. We have a pretty busy schedule but I will especially try to make time to see OpenMoko community members. Best wishes, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
FreeRunner is due for release at the end of Spring, but which Spring is this? East Asia? US? Europe? I have to say, spring is a bad description of when FreeRunner will be released, though from my knowledge East Asia, the US and Europe all have spring at the same time +- 24 hours. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be spring in the southern hemisphere since that's still ten and a half months away. Jeff ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
Jeff Bailes wrote: FreeRunner is due for release at the end of Spring, but which Spring is this? East Asia? US? Europe? I have to say, spring is a bad description of when FreeRunner will be released, though from my knowledge East Asia, the US and Europe all have spring at the same time +- 24 hours. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be spring in the southern hemisphere since that's still ten and a half months away. Amen. Using seasons for describing milestones (a common US behaviour) or even worse using holidays (e.g. we'll release that by Thanksgiving), is always the *wrong* thing to do. -- Rod (who is south of the equator, and also on a half-hour timezone) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
Thank you for the update. When do you expect to have results from the 850-MHz GTA01 testing? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
On Thursday 03 January 2008 05:51:06 Michael Shiloh wrote: Hello everyone, Next week at CES we will formally preview GTA02 to the public. We are doing this at an invitation-only media event, and not the general show floor. Any chance to see a video of that event? Maybe even in decent (i.e. better than Youtube :) quality? Great news in any case! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
The bulk of the press release discusses the hardware features of GTA02, of which you are all well aware. Actually I do have one question coming from the press release -- it says: FreeRunner will come in two versions: a 850MHz tri-band and a 900Mhz tri-band. Does this mean that OpenMoko has officially committed to a US 850MHz version of GTA02? Will this version ship at the same time as the 900MHz version? Thanks, Roland ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community update, January 2, 2008
Hello everyone, Next week at CES we will formally preview GTA02 to the public. We are doing this at an invitation-only media event, and not the general show floor. To coincide with this we are sending out a press release tomorrow morning. The bulk of the press release discusses the hardware features of GTA02, of which you are all well aware. I would like to let you know of two new items: 1. GTA02 is given a name: FreeRunner 2. We think that FreeRunner will be available in spring. This is based on our estimation of what remains to be done with regards to hardware testing and software test. We will be showing a prototype of GTA02 hardware, aimed at software developers. It is not consumer-ready software. To quote the press release: The FreeRunner will be previewed at CES and ship later this spring-- first to developers and then to end users as software for the new hardware features becomes available. Other minor updates: We still have not received the signed agreement from TI allowing you to upgrade your own GSM firmware, so those of you who need the new firmware in order to use your SIM card should allow me to do it for you. Contact me off-list for my shipping address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to help us close bugs? We have made a massive attempt to sort the bugs in Bugzilla. A host of bugs that need work are owned by me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and community participation on these is particularly welcome. Some need to be fixed, some need to be confirmed fixed or not reproducible, and others need a decision as to whether they are worth fixing or not. Take a look at these bugs and let me know if any speak to you. That's all for now. If any of you will be at CES drop me a line and we'll see if we can connect. We have a pretty busy schedule but I will especially try to make time to see OpenMoko community members. Best wishes, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
