Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-09-02 Thread Don Park
On 8/31/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point is starting this topic was to bring attention to the fact that probably 500 to 1000 potential developers were likely to get saddled with GTA01 phones right before the GTA02s were released and that FIC staff

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-09-02 Thread Ian Stirling
Don Park wrote: On 8/31/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point is starting this topic was to bring attention to the fact that probably 500 to 1000 potential developers were likely to get saddled with GTA01 phones right before the GTA02s were released and that

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-31 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Hi Alan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO, Your response here to Joe was uncalled for and frankly, rude. I also resent the implication that I and others are disgruntled whiners. While gentleman may agree or disagree, there is little to no call for this kind response to

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-31 Thread Ian Darwin
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Product development is messy. There are literally hundreds of components in this device, all needing to be sourced with different lead times from different vendors. If SDRAM becomes scarce, we suffer. If a vendor has yield problems, so we do we. I encourage you (and

RE: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-31 Thread LIANE_SHEN
Nice reply. Sorry I started all this, technically, because I replied to his inquiry and he quote my reply in his email. Did I say anything wrong there? -Liane Your support, by buying hardware, or just making constructive comments, will allow us to grow and

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-31 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, - On 8/31/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | If you just want to buy a phone that will | work for you today, this is NOT (yet) the project for you; \-- I think the OpenMoko team should write an article similar to the following: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm something

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-31 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 8/31/07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice reply. Sorry I started all this, technically, because I replied to his inquiry and he quote my reply in his email. Did I say anything wrong there? No problem. I find this thread quite interesting ;-) -Sean

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: I encourage you (and everyone else) to see this project for what it is -- a truly unique opportunity to take part in the development of an open phone. This is a personal dream of mine for years. Even though we've had our fair share of delays, I'm still incredibly excited

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@lists.openmoko.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order. Hi Alan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO, Your response here to Joe was uncalled for and frankly, rude. I also resent the implication that I and others are disgruntled whiners. While

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
On 8/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read the post before you jump to conclusions. The suggestion was to make at least the bottom square. I did: On 8/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer the aesthetic look of the Neo and there is nothing more

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not interested to disect the argument around axis of symmetry to help you prove your childish argument. If you are one of the disgruntled whiners about the Neo, then unsubscribe. Joe Friedrichsen wrote: On 8/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read the post

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
On 8/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not interested to disect the argument around axis of symmetry to help you prove your childish argument. If you are one of the disgruntled whiners about the Neo, then unsubscribe. It appear the tongue-in-cheek humour was lost on

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:25:08 -0400 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order. If you are one of the disgruntled whiners about the Neo, then unsubscribe. Joe Friedrichsen wrote: On 8/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-29 Thread David \Lefty\ Schlesinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO, Your response here to Joe was uncalled for and frankly, rude. I said much the same to this person, off-list, and got an equally churlish response. I see a spam filter coming with his email address on it...

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread Ortwin Regel
On 8/26/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why am I not being given the choice to RIGHT NOW to be placed at the FRONT of the GTA02 sales queue? Why dont I have a billion dollars? I really want it and I could really use it... Why don't I get respect from

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread curlynoodle
There appear to be some disgruntled developers out there with the Neo1973 GTA01 sitting on the shelf. Please consider selling your development handset on eBay or similar so other, more active developers, without hardware can get one. Just my $0.02, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why am I not

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or the wiki, well, just add my voice to the choir. Doing my best to not sound Pissed off or Disgruntled here... Alan Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:50:45 -0400 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread Giles Jones
On 28 Aug 2007, at 21:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Shape. The hemisphere on the bottom of the GTA01/02 phone will not allow the phone to remain upright in a breast pocket. It will always cant to one side or the other. The bottom needs to be pretty much squared off. Indeed, I had

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, while I'm at it (and I have your attention), there are a few horifically basic handset design issues that need to be addressed in future FIC/OpenMoko hardware designs that looking at the iPhone makes painfully obvious: 1) Shape. The hemisphere on the bottom of

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
On 8/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer the aesthetic look of the Neo and there is nothing more comfortable to handle than a symmetric design. Point in case, a classical rounded edge shaped bar of soap is the easiest to handleSquare soap

Open moko round bottom Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread GWMobile
Sounds like a great market for a small plastic slip on square bottom piece to solve the problem. On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 2:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, while I'm at it (and I have your attention), there are a few horifically basic handset design issues that need

Re: Open moko round bottom Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread Giles Jones
On 28 Aug 2007, at 23:01, GWMobile wrote: Sounds like a great market for a small plastic slip on square bottom piece to solve the problem. Or shirts with a rounded pocket, or a case with clip. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Read the post before you jump to conclusions. The suggestion was to make at least the bottom square. Joe Friedrichsen wrote: On 8/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer the aesthetic look of the Neo and there is nothing more

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-25 Thread openmoko
Why am I not being given the choice to RIGHT NOW to be placed at the FRONT of the GTA02 sales queue? Why dont I have a billion dollars? I really want it and I could really use it... Why am I putting up with all this frustration reading about others who -have- their phones and why should I

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-25 Thread Ian Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why am I not being given the choice to RIGHT NOW to be placed at the FRONT of the GTA02 sales queue? Why dont I have a billion dollars? I really want it and I could really use it... I'm sure that if you show up with a billion dollars, you will be at the front of

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-25 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
You all do not understand the concept of a development release - and maybe you never will. Everybody who ordered knew what he would get, everybody had the possibility to check what will work and what will not. Sorry guys, but please just shut up. (P.S. To not casting a damning light on FIC or

Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-25 Thread Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why am I not being given the choice to RIGHT NOW to be placed at the FRONT of the GTA02 sales queue? Why dont I have a billion dollars? I really want it and I could really use it... Why don't I get respect from a company I'm trying to support at my expense? I

RE: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-24 Thread John Seghers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why can't I get quality, authoritative answers to these questions? Hi Alan. I'm not affiliated with FIC in any way, but I thought I'd give you my viewpoint, for what it's worth. You are probably getting the answers they *can* give. Whether that can is because they

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Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-23 Thread Giles Jones
On 23 Aug 2007, at 18:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why am I putting up with all this frustration reading about others who -have- their phones and why should I not just cancel my order?? Convince me. A few points, it's always been a developer release and a somewhat experimental project