Re: Copyrights in the wiki

2007-02-20 Thread Jon Phillips
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 18:22 +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 01:54:56AM +, Ole Tange wrote:
  On 2/17/07, denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I got a question. Is it allowed to post screenshots from MacOS
  applications and use them as a reference for the layout and look of the
  phone?
  For example here:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Date_%26_Time_Preview
  
  I would recommend against it. The wiki clearly states:
 
 I would follow that recommendation, but don't consider it as a serious
 issue.  The MacOS apps are certainly copyrighted, but I've never seen
 any issue about publicizing screenshots from existing programs.  I mean,
 if that would be considered copyright infringement, nobody could ever
 publicize any screenshot of any non-free application or a non-free OS
 anywhere.
 
 Yes, if somebody copies the design/theming of a UI app (into a new UI
 app, e.g. an OpenMoko one), that would be a problem.  But then the moko
 themes are so different that I doubt this would happen either.

Right, if anyone is concerned, just give adequate attribution around the
image and give apple due credit...otherwise, this is all fair use...and
free promotion for apple...

Jon

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Re: Copyrights in the wiki

2007-02-19 Thread Harald Welte
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 01:54:56AM +, Ole Tange wrote:
 On 2/17/07, denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I got a question. Is it allowed to post screenshots from MacOS
 applications and use them as a reference for the layout and look of the
 phone?
 For example here:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Date_%26_Time_Preview
 
 I would recommend against it. The wiki clearly states:

I would follow that recommendation, but don't consider it as a serious
issue.  The MacOS apps are certainly copyrighted, but I've never seen
any issue about publicizing screenshots from existing programs.  I mean,
if that would be considered copyright infringement, nobody could ever
publicize any screenshot of any non-free application or a non-free OS
anywhere.

Yes, if somebody copies the design/theming of a UI app (into a new UI
app, e.g. an OpenMoko one), that would be a problem.  But then the moko
themes are so different that I doubt this would happen either.

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Copyrights in the wiki

2007-02-17 Thread denis
I got a question. Is it allowed to post screenshots from MacOS 
applications and use them as a reference for the layout and look of the 
phone?

For example here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Date_%26_Time_Preview

Regards, Denis

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Re: Copyrights in the wiki

2007-02-17 Thread Ole Tange

On 2/17/07, denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I got a question. Is it allowed to post screenshots from MacOS
applications and use them as a reference for the layout and look of the
phone?
For example here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Date_%26_Time_Preview


I would recommend against it. The wiki clearly states:

Please note that all contributions to OpenMoko are considered to be
released under the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 (see
Project:Copyrights for details). If you don't want your writing to be
edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it
here.
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it
from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT
COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!

Had it been in Wikipedia I would have expected a FairUse banner on these images.

If you can make your own mockup using free software I would say: Go for it.

/Ole

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