Re: DIY Audioadaptor
Michael Zanetti wrote: > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:31:25 Konstantin wrote: > >> If this happens with your normal OM headset, too, then your mixer settings >> are probably wrong. I had the same problem too at the beginning, but >> fiddling around with the 'Left Mixer Left' and 'Right Mixer Right' playback >> switches (I think those were the ones, if not try other switches with >> left/right in their names) in alsamixer (i.E. turning them on) did the >> trick for me :) > > > Thanks for the hint, > > I have tried to change the settings for "Left *" and "Right *" but it doesn't > seem to help. All those switches just change the volume of the left (or is it > the right?) side. Probably there is another setting causing this behaviour. I > will try it again whe I have more time. Just restore the headset.state alsa settings. Om2008.x seems not to do this on headset jack insertion. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:31:25 Konstantin wrote: > If this happens with your normal OM headset, too, then your mixer settings > are probably wrong. I had the same problem too at the beginning, but > fiddling around with the 'Left Mixer Left' and 'Right Mixer Right' playback > switches (I think those were the ones, if not try other switches with > left/right in their names) in alsamixer (i.E. turning them on) did the > trick for me :) Thanks for the hint, I have tried to change the settings for "Left *" and "Right *" but it doesn't seem to help. All those switches just change the volume of the left (or is it the right?) side. Probably there is another setting causing this behaviour. I will try it again whe I have more time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
> the connector aprox. 1 mm to get stereo output. And this position is not > very > stable. > > > Have you tried it with qtopia too? I am using a Nokia Headset (HS-47) which has a different pin layout, but the wires can be switched very easily (in the little box containing butten + microphone): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Analog_wired_Headset_Nokia At first I had the same problem with stereo output, but it worked without problems on qtopia, so I new it was not a hardware problem. On FDOM i did: alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/headset.state restore to make it work. The problem I have at the moment is, that it does not automatically switch to headphones when I plug them in, but i have to switch between modes manually (as above). maybe someone knows what to do? I'll let you now, if i find something out... Andi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
No, it's stereo. Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 22:50:39 schrieb Fabian Henze: > On 28.10.2008 at 21:57:09, Marcel wrote: > > There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't > > notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to > > possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :) > > As far as I know this adaptor is mono-only, right? > > -- Fabian > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:12:16 elh wrote: >> Hi, > >> I can't recommend this connector. It works, but not very well. I have to >> pull out >> the connector aprox. 1 mm to get stereo output. And this position is not >> very >> stable. >> > > I noticed this also with the original openmoko headset. So to me it seems the > Jack inside the neo is the problem. Not the connector... If this happens with your normal OM headset, too, then your mixer settings are probably wrong. I had the same problem too at the beginning, but fiddling around with the 'Left Mixer Left' and 'Right Mixer Right' playback switches (I think those were the ones, if not try other switches with left/right in their names) in alsamixer (i.E. turning them on) did the trick for me :) HTH, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:12:16 elh wrote: > Hi, > I can't recommend this connector. It works, but not very well. I have to > pull out > the connector aprox. 1 mm to get stereo output. And this position is not > very > stable. > I noticed this also with the original openmoko headset. So to me it seems the Jack inside the neo is the problem. Not the connector... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
There are quite a few emails about this about the time the FR was first released. It has a rare, specific 4 contact plug. There are only a few out there that work properly. If you have to resort to pulling it partly to work or have mono sound - you are likely to have the wrong one. Note that the alsa state files have also had problems at times and may be contributing BillK On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 09:12 +0100, Thomas Hauth wrote: > I bought an adapter at the local electronics store ( "Saturn" in > Germany). It fits pretty well into the FR socket. But I only have sound > on one side of the headset, even if the pluf is fully connected. I'm not > sure if this is a plug-related problem or a misconfiguration of the > moko-audio-subsystem. Does anybody know more about this? If I'm not able > to fix this via software configuration, I plan to connect the 2 stereo > channels by soldering to at least have a mono signal on both earplugs. > > greetz, > Thomas > > Marcel schrieb: > > There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't > > notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to > > possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :) > > > > -Marcel > > > > Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:34:47 schrieb Thomas Köckerbauer: > >>> I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the > >>> FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to > >>> good for this task (german website): > >>> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47 > >>> 78 4 > >>> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47 > >>> 78 5 > >>> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=94 > >>> 10 > >>> > >>> Now I wonder, whether > >>> a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt? > >> I bought this connector: > >> http://www1.at.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_at/~flN0YXRlPTM5NzYwMDU3MjU=?~ > >> template=pcat_product_details_document&product_show_id=730520&no_brotkrumenn > >> avi=1&zhmmh_area_kz=LN It does not fit very well. The metal-base of the > >> connector has a to large diameter. Since the headset socket of the > >> Freerunner is a bit inside of the case the connector has only full contact > >> if I press in the connector really hard (the case caves in a bit). As soon > >> as I stop pressing the plug goes back outside a bit again and looses > >> contact again. So you have to make sure that the base of the connector is > >> not to large (this is somewhat similar to the headset connector problem > >> that was there at the first iPhone). > >> Maybe as a suggestion for improvement for further OpenMoko phones would be > >> that the headset socket should be not be to far in the device. > >> I'm now thinking about buying a Nokia headset and making an adapter out of > >> it, since those have plugs that are normally smaller than those for > >> self-soldering. > >> > >>> b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to > >>> solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work > >>> around the bad sound quality some people have noticed? > >> I did not add anything in between. I can't complain about the audio quality > >> (I've also read those reports about bad sound quality, but I did not really > >> notice anything). > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
I bought an adapter at the local electronics store ( "Saturn" in Germany). It fits pretty well into the FR socket. But I only have sound on one side of the headset, even if the pluf is fully connected. I'm not sure if this is a plug-related problem or a misconfiguration of the moko-audio-subsystem. Does anybody know more about this? If I'm not able to fix this via software configuration, I plan to connect the 2 stereo channels by soldering to at least have a mono signal on both earplugs. greetz, Thomas Marcel schrieb: > There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't > notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to > possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :) > > -Marcel > > Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:34:47 schrieb Thomas Köckerbauer: >>> I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the >>> FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to >>> good for this task (german website): >>> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47 >>> 78 4 >>> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47 >>> 78 5 >>> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=94 >>> 10 >>> >>> Now I wonder, whether >>> a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt? >> I bought this connector: >> http://www1.at.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_at/~flN0YXRlPTM5NzYwMDU3MjU=?~ >> template=pcat_product_details_document&product_show_id=730520&no_brotkrumenn >> avi=1&zhmmh_area_kz=LN It does not fit very well. The metal-base of the >> connector has a to large diameter. Since the headset socket of the >> Freerunner is a bit inside of the case the connector has only full contact >> if I press in the connector really hard (the case caves in a bit). As soon >> as I stop pressing the plug goes back outside a bit again and looses >> contact again. So you have to make sure that the base of the connector is >> not to large (this is somewhat similar to the headset connector problem >> that was there at the first iPhone). >> Maybe as a suggestion for improvement for further OpenMoko phones would be >> that the headset socket should be not be to far in the device. >> I'm now thinking about buying a Nokia headset and making an adapter out of >> it, since those have plugs that are normally smaller than those for >> self-soldering. >> >>> b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to >>> solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work >>> around the bad sound quality some people have noticed? >> I did not add anything in between. I can't complain about the audio quality >> (I've also read those reports about bad sound quality, but I did not really >> notice anything). >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
On 28.10.2008 at 21:57:09, Marcel wrote: > There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't > notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to > possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :) As far as I know this adaptor is mono-only, right? -- Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :) -Marcel Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:34:47 schrieb Thomas Köckerbauer: > > I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the > > FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to > > good for this task (german website): > > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47 > >78 4 > > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47 > >78 5 > > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=94 > >10 > > > > Now I wonder, whether > > a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt? > > I bought this connector: > http://www1.at.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_at/~flN0YXRlPTM5NzYwMDU3MjU=?~ >template=pcat_product_details_document&product_show_id=730520&no_brotkrumenn >avi=1&zhmmh_area_kz=LN It does not fit very well. The metal-base of the > connector has a to large diameter. Since the headset socket of the > Freerunner is a bit inside of the case the connector has only full contact > if I press in the connector really hard (the case caves in a bit). As soon > as I stop pressing the plug goes back outside a bit again and looses > contact again. So you have to make sure that the base of the connector is > not to large (this is somewhat similar to the headset connector problem > that was there at the first iPhone). > Maybe as a suggestion for improvement for further OpenMoko phones would be > that the headset socket should be not be to far in the device. > I'm now thinking about buying a Nokia headset and making an adapter out of > it, since those have plugs that are normally smaller than those for > self-soldering. > > > b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to > > solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work > > around the bad sound quality some people have noticed? > > I did not add anything in between. I can't complain about the audio quality > (I've also read those reports about bad sound quality, but I did not really > notice anything). > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
> I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the > FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to > good for this task (german website): > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=4778 >4 > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=4778 >5 > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=9410 > > Now I wonder, whether > a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt? I bought this connector: http://www1.at.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_at/~flN0YXRlPTM5NzYwMDU3MjU=?~template=pcat_product_details_document&product_show_id=730520&no_brotkrumennavi=1&zhmmh_area_kz=LN It does not fit very well. The metal-base of the connector has a to large diameter. Since the headset socket of the Freerunner is a bit inside of the case the connector has only full contact if I press in the connector really hard (the case caves in a bit). As soon as I stop pressing the plug goes back outside a bit again and looses contact again. So you have to make sure that the base of the connector is not to large (this is somewhat similar to the headset connector problem that was there at the first iPhone). Maybe as a suggestion for improvement for further OpenMoko phones would be that the headset socket should be not be to far in the device. I'm now thinking about buying a Nokia headset and making an adapter out of it, since those have plugs that are normally smaller than those for self-soldering. > b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to > solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around > the bad sound quality some people have noticed? I did not add anything in between. I can't complain about the audio quality (I've also read those reports about bad sound quality, but I did not really notice anything). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
Hi, > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47784 I can't recommend this connector. It works, but not very well. I have to pull out the connector aprox. 1 mm to get stereo output. And this position is not very stable. > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47785 If you try this one, please let me know, if it works better. > b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to > solder > some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around the > bad > sound quality some people have noticed? I'm using my selfmade adapter only to connect to some line inputs. As these have a high impedance, the sound quality is ok. elh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
DIY Audioadaptor
Hi, I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to good for this task (german website): http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47784 http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47785 http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=9410 Now I wonder, whether a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt? b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around the bad sound quality some people have noticed? -- Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
