Re: Different Navit builds
arne anka wrote: And are you aware that you can store your OSD in a separate xml file using xi:include? no, but that's interesting. far more interesting, though, would be to switch those layouts at runtime ... I agree. But for now it's only planned. Patch welcome :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Different-Navit-builds-tp3488053p3522975.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/26/09, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Navit in revision 2520 is now in SHR unstable repo :) Thanks Sebastian. The whole point of the thread being : will it be kept up to date ? :) Do you see something wrong in using nightly auto builds for SHR? If only we can be sure about quality of navit svn repo (so it'll be buildable every time), we could try to set navit to AUTOREV. But I don't think it's needed - as (if only navit guys didn't changed everything drasticaly) building new version of navit should be now as simple as s/2520/some-newer-revision/ ;) My point was to ask if there was any reason for not using AUTOREV. It's been a while since the last failure for the moko build, and we have a bot sitting in our channel which gives compilation results in live. I'm personnaly upgrading navit almost everyday, along with the shr updates. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Different-Navit-builds-tp3488053p3523013.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Christian Rüb wrote: arne anka wrote: hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? I am not sure if all OSD Layouts should be placed on OSD wiki page [1], so i put it on my user page [2]. Scrrenshots here: [3] - I was missing the upload file link in navit wiki and have them up there anyway... Actually i think they should rather go into the same page, otherwise they can be hard to find. IMO (but it's only IMO) user pages are better used for personnal notes until you document something in a 'public' page. Don't be shy, edit the wiki ;) Also, the icon pack isn't needed anymore : instead you should rather use icon_s=96 and icon_l=96 (it was posted somewhere, and the default navit.xml has the right values). Christian Rüb wrote: Now, does someone know if toggle_announcer is used correctly and if it actually is supposed to do something? It is supposed to work, afaik. Otherwise feel free to open a bug. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Different-Navit-builds-tp3488053p3523090.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Pike-2 wrote: Hi hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? I am not sure if all OSD Layouts should be placed on OSD wiki page [1], so i put it on my user page [2]. Actually, there is a page for examples there http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD_Layouts#Neo_FreeRunner But as you've noticed, you can't upload pictures there .. $2c, *-pike Not by intention, i will have a look at it. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Different-Navit-builds-tp3488053p3523115.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Pike-2 wrote: Hi hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? Feel free to post the screenshot and OSD in the wiki, too. Oh - ah - ok http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Navit I actually tried to upload this to the Navit wiki, but they don't seem to be eager for such contributions .. $2c, *-pike Fixed : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Special:Upload Thanks for reporting! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Different-Navit-builds-tp3488053p3523434.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
On Donnerstag, 27. August 2009 11:50:52 KaZeR wrote: Pike-2 wrote: Hi hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? Feel free to post the screenshot and OSD in the wiki, too. Oh - ah - ok http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Navit I actually tried to upload this to the Navit wiki, but they don't seem to be eager for such contributions .. $2c, *-pike Fixed : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Special:Upload Thanks for reporting! I get this: Internal error The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
KaZeR wrote: Christian Rüb wrote: arne anka wrote: hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? I am not sure if all OSD Layouts should be placed on OSD wiki page [1], so i put it on my user page [2]. Scrrenshots here: [3] - I was missing the upload file link in navit wiki and have them up there anyway... Actually i think they should rather go into the same page, otherwise they can be hard to find. IMO (but it's only IMO) user pages are better used for personnal notes until you document something in a 'public' page. Don't be shy, edit the wiki ;) Will do. Also, the icon pack isn't needed anymore : instead you should rather use icon_s=96 and icon_l=96 (it was posted somewhere, and the default navit.xml has the right values). My layout (direction, announcer) depends on 70px graphics, but I try to change it for 96px - but this uses even more space. Any opinions from someone else if it would be better to use 70 or 96 for OSD? For the menu 96 is OK. Christian Rüb wrote: Now, does someone know if toggle_announcer is used correctly and if it actually is supposed to do something? It is supposed to work, afaik. Otherwise feel free to open a bug. done: #453 on Navit trac ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
I am not sure if all OSD Layouts should be placed on OSD wiki page [1], so i put it on my user page [2]. Scrrenshots here: [3] - I was missing the upload file link in navit wiki and have them up there anyway... Actually i think they should rather go into the same page, otherwise they can be hard to find. IMO (but it's only IMO) user pages are better used for personnal notes until you document something in a 'public' page. Don't be shy, edit the wiki ;) Will do. Also, the icon pack isn't needed anymore : instead you should rather use icon_s=96 and icon_l=96 (it was posted somewhere, and the default navit.xml has the right values). My layout (direction, announcer) depends on 70px graphics, but I try to change it for 96px - but this uses even more space. Any opinions from someone else if it would be better to use 70 or 96 for OSD? For the menu 96 is OK. Here is a version I put on the wiki with a slightly different layout that uses 96px png: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD_Layouts#FreeRunner_Layout_4 No screenshots, as uploading does not work yet (upload dir permissions) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
arne anka wrote: hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? will post relevant part of navit.xml and screenshot tonight ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
arne anka wrote: hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? Feel free to post the screenshot and OSD in the wiki, too. A landscape OSD layout could be useful. And are you aware that you can store your OSD in a separate xml file using xi:include? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Different-Navit-builds-tp3488053p3514389.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Navit in revision 2520 is now in SHR unstable repo :) Thanks Sebastian. The whole point of the thread being : will it be kept up to date ? :) Do you see something wrong in using nightly auto builds for SHR? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Different-Navit-builds-tp3488053p3514392.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
And are you aware that you can store your OSD in a separate xml file using xi:include? no, but that's interesting. far more interesting, though, would be to switch those layouts at runtime ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
KaZeR wrote: arne anka wrote: hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? Feel free to post the screenshot and OSD in the wiki, too. A landscape OSD layout could be useful. And are you aware that you can store your OSD in a separate xml file using xi:include? It is usable in both modes - I will post screenshots for both. I will also post it in navit wiki. Thanks for the include hint. Talking about this - do you know if toggle_announcer actually works? I have icon and action included but it does not seem to do anything though. You probably will wait answering this until I have uploaded my xml. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
On 8/26/09, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Navit in revision 2520 is now in SHR unstable repo :) Thanks Sebastian. The whole point of the thread being : will it be kept up to date ? :) Do you see something wrong in using nightly auto builds for SHR? If only we can be sure about quality of navit svn repo (so it'll be buildable every time), we could try to set navit to AUTOREV. But I don't think it's needed - as (if only navit guys didn't changed everything drasticaly) building new version of navit should be now as simple as s/2520/some-newer-revision/ ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Hi hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? Feel free to post the screenshot and OSD in the wiki, too. Oh - ah - ok http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Navit I actually tried to upload this to the Navit wiki, but they don't seem to be eager for such contributions .. $2c, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
arne anka wrote: hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? I am not sure if all OSD Layouts should be placed on OSD wiki page [1], so i put it on my user page [2]. Scrrenshots here: [3] - I was missing the upload file link in navit wiki and have them up there anyway... Now, does someone know if toggle_announcer is used correctly and if it actually is supposed to do something? [1] http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD [2] http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Crueb [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Navit in revision 2520 is now in SHR unstable repo :) Sorry if the following is getting a bit off topic Thanks for doing the updates, but current version does not build (qpainter error during compile as it is based on qt 4.5.2) Also could you also please change the .desktop file: diff --git a/recipes/navit/files/navit.desktop b/recipes/navit/files/navit.desktop index 05ecc1d..d2be342 100644 --- a/recipes/navit/files/navit.desktop +++ b/recipes/navit/files/navit.desktop @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ [Desktop Entry] Name=Navit Comment=GPS Navigation -Exec=navit +Exec=unset LC_ALL; navit Icon=navit Terminal=false Type=Application Having set LC_ALL leads to unexpected results concerning GPS coordinates... Also we could include the navit icons 70px from Kazer [2] from here [1] in standard SHR navit package - what do you think? [2] http://n2.nabble.com/Re-navit-0-1-0-svnrev1981-r1-pkg-broken-tp2473189p2740186.html [1] http://www.kazer.org/navit/freerunner_navit_icons.tar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Hi hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? I am not sure if all OSD Layouts should be placed on OSD wiki page [1], so i put it on my user page [2]. Actually, there is a page for examples there http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD_Layouts#Neo_FreeRunner But as you've noticed, you can't upload pictures there .. $2c, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Christian Rüb wrote: Hi, as there are some notable differences between navit from SHR[1] and navit directly [2]. Does someone know how the navit binary from [2] is built? Maybe advantages can be merged? Navit version from [1] is 0.1.0+svnrev2309-r3 from [2] is svn-2511 differences I noticed so far: [1]: honours $HOME/.navit/navit.xml uses correct libgps17 (not 16) some icons (e.g. GPS signal) have white background (instead of being transparent) street search does not work is older feels a little bit faster (I use 70px pngs for both, so icons do not have to be calculated) libs are named *.so.0 [2]: libs are named *.so [1] http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/navit/navit_svn.bb?h=shr/import [2] http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn using svn r2517 $HOME/.navit/navit.xml is used by navit again, there seemed to be a bug in opk package as navit.xml in /usr/share/navit was empty, too. Also speed seems to be the same for menus etc. One more advantage of using [2]: deactivating map follows vehicle in menu now actually works and makes map searching usable even if GPS is on :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Christian Rüb wrote: using svn r2517 $HOME/.navit/navit.xml is used by navit again, there seemed to be a bug in opk package as navit.xml in /usr/share/navit was empty, too. Also speed seems to be the same for menus etc. One more advantage of using [2]: deactivating map follows vehicle in menu now actually works and makes map searching usable even if GPS is on :) Well, as a general rule, i would say that using the most recent one (especially with 200+ commits) is usually a good idea. There are indeed some new bugs introduced from time to time, but usually commits are done to solve bugs ;). And in the specific case of navit, usually when something breaks it's fixed the day after (like this navit.xml path issue). -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Different-Navit-builds-tp3488053p3510474.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
KaZeR wrote: Christian Rüb wrote: using svn r2517 $HOME/.navit/navit.xml is used by navit again, there seemed to be a bug in opk package as navit.xml in /usr/share/navit was empty, too. Also speed seems to be the same for menus etc. One more advantage of using [2]: deactivating map follows vehicle in menu now actually works and makes map searching usable even if GPS is on :) Well, as a general rule, i would say that using the most recent one (especially with 200+ commits) is usually a good idea. There are indeed some new bugs introduced from time to time, but usually commits are done to solve bugs ;). And in the specific case of navit, usually when something breaks it's fixed the day after (like this navit.xml path issue). That's what I did before for a long while but then switched to SHR package and did not get updates from svn. Now I am back to original navit packages and I am aware this can happen with devel versions. I was just a bit unfortunate to get a buggy version in the first place. But I would still be interested to build navit in a clean way for my SHR (i.e. using libgps17), as I have set up a build env for other apps already. A bitbake recipe would be appreciated. It's really a great app and with a hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
On 8/25/09, Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net wrote: KaZeR wrote: Christian Rüb wrote: using svn r2517 $HOME/.navit/navit.xml is used by navit again, there seemed to be a bug in opk package as navit.xml in /usr/share/navit was empty, too. Also speed seems to be the same for menus etc. One more advantage of using [2]: deactivating map follows vehicle in menu now actually works and makes map searching usable even if GPS is on :) Well, as a general rule, i would say that using the most recent one (especially with 200+ commits) is usually a good idea. There are indeed some new bugs introduced from time to time, but usually commits are done to solve bugs ;). And in the specific case of navit, usually when something breaks it's fixed the day after (like this navit.xml path issue). That's what I did before for a long while but then switched to SHR package and did not get updates from svn. Now I am back to original navit packages and I am aware this can happen with devel versions. I was just a bit unfortunate to get a buggy version in the first place. But I would still be interested to build navit in a clean way for my SHR (i.e. using libgps17), as I have set up a build env for other apps already. A bitbake recipe would be appreciated. It's really a great app and with a hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'll try to build newer Navit in SHR repository. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. care to share? screenshot? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Different Navit builds
|-Original Message- |From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community- |boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of arne anka |Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:14 AM |To: List for Openmoko community discussion |Subject: Re: Different Navit builds | | hand crafted OSD layout also very useful on my FR. | |care to share? screenshot? | Please! :) I'm using one from the wiki: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD_Layouts [Russell Dwiggins] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different Navit builds
Navit in revision 2520 is now in SHR unstable repo :) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Different Navit builds
Hi, as there are some notable differences between navit from SHR[1] and navit directly [2]. Does someone know how the navit binary from [2] is built? Maybe advantages can be merged? Navit version from [1] is 0.1.0+svnrev2309-r3 from [2] is svn-2511 differences I noticed so far: [1]: honours $HOME/.navit/navit.xml uses correct libgps17 (not 16) some icons (e.g. GPS signal) have white background (instead of being transparent) street search does not work is older feels a little bit faster (I use 70px pngs for both, so icons do not have to be calculated) libs are named *.so.0 [2]: libs are named *.so [1] http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/navit/navit_svn.bb?h=shr/import [2] http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn Cheers, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
