Re: Different hardware in the future?
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:44:16PM +0200, Jay Vaughan wrote: > > Or will there be another hardware iteration then, eventually making it > > necessary to change the hardware? > > .. the interest in the older platforms and the newer platforms is only > going to pale as newer platforms are introduced, and in fact this is > needed, because the momentum towards a few hundred thousand to a > million users requires frequent hardware revisions. we should count on > it, as developers, in fact. That is a good point. My question was more about whether the intention of the Freerunner hardware was towards end-users. As I now understand, it is. About the software... we'll see. Today I flashed the daily of the GTK version. I'm quite optimistic now. :) pgp7pe1Cheb5x.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different hardware in the future?
> > I read, it is intended for end-users > > but not yet quite end-user-capable. I wasn't sure whether this is a > > question of software only, or one of hardware too. > Software only. > Freerunner is supposed to be the final design. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. :) pgpYR0VLswxvI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different hardware in the future?
> > But now my question: As I understand, the software right now is not > fully evolved. I would be interested in experimenting and testing, > but I > also would like to have a fully functional phone in the long run. > Will I > have one with the Freerunner once the software development reached a > certain stage? I would say so, or at least I have invested in the neo1973 and the freerunner now, in faith that both of them will be useful sooner or later .. and i've been following the software projects development for a while now, there is definitely movement and flux, only .. > Or will there be another hardware iteration then, eventually making it > necessary to change the hardware? .. the interest in the older platforms and the newer platforms is only going to pale as newer platforms are introduced, and in fact this is needed, because the momentum towards a few hundred thousand to a million users requires frequent hardware revisions. we should count on it, as developers, in fact. > I read, it is intended for end-users > but not yet quite end-user-capable. I wasn't sure whether this is a > question of software only, or one of hardware too. > right now, its intended for developers, but if enough developers get onboard right now and do cool things, there will be people who buy the phone because they only want to be users and not much else. that day will come: it is up to us developers, however, to provide some reason not to screw up hardware manufacture economics and attract the masses .. ;) ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different hardware in the future?
Ole Kliemann wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'd first like to say how excited I am about the Freerunner. I am an > enthusiastic linux user who likes to customize every aspect to create a > workflow that just fits. So a customizable phone is what I have been > looking for. A big thanks to all involved in the project, you are doing > something important. It is about time that man reclaims machine. > > But now my question: As I understand, the software right now is not > fully evolved. I would be interested in experimenting and testing, but I > also would like to have a fully functional phone in the long run. It is already pretty functional, but probably not fully. It works, but some featueres still evolve (GPS,mapping,motion sensor stuff,management of wlan/networking) and some software may change. (The whole multiple subsystems shebang) See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images Especially http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/ Moving target... ;) But you will be able to make calls send sms and so. > Will I > have one with the Freerunner once the software development reached a > certain stage? > > Or will there be another hardware iteration then, eventually making it > necessary to change the hardware? No > I read, it is intended for end-users > but not yet quite end-user-capable. I wasn't sure whether this is a > question of software only, or one of hardware too. Software only. Freerunner is supposed to be the final design. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Different hardware in the future?
On Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 10:00:50PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'd first like to say how excited I am about the Freerunner. I am an > enthusiastic linux user who likes to customize every aspect to create a > workflow that just fits. So a customizable phone is what I have been > looking for. A big thanks to all involved in the project, you are doing > something important. It is about time that man reclaims machine. > > But now my question: As I understand, the software right now is not > fully evolved. I would be interested in experimenting and testing, but I > also would like to have a fully functional phone in the long run. Will I > have one with the Freerunner once the software development reached a > certain stage? > > Or will there be another hardware iteration then, eventually making it > necessary to change the hardware? I read, it is intended for end-users > but not yet quite end-user-capable. I wasn't sure whether this is a > question of software only, or one of hardware too. depends on if you want things like 3g, edge, hdmi, camera or not > > Best regards, > Ole > > PS: I hope this is not a double post now. But I did not receive my > message on the list and could not spot it in the archive either. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Different hardware in the future?
Hi everyone! I'd first like to say how excited I am about the Freerunner. I am an enthusiastic linux user who likes to customize every aspect to create a workflow that just fits. So a customizable phone is what I have been looking for. A big thanks to all involved in the project, you are doing something important. It is about time that man reclaims machine. But now my question: As I understand, the software right now is not fully evolved. I would be interested in experimenting and testing, but I also would like to have a fully functional phone in the long run. Will I have one with the Freerunner once the software development reached a certain stage? Or will there be another hardware iteration then, eventually making it necessary to change the hardware? I read, it is intended for end-users but not yet quite end-user-capable. I wasn't sure whether this is a question of software only, or one of hardware too. Best regards, Ole PS: I hope this is not a double post now. But I did not receive my message on the list and could not spot it in the archive either. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community