Re: Do I need a FAT SD card? Do I need OM? Do I need... ? Choices, Choices, Choices...

2009-07-20 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 20 July 2009, Chris Samuel wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:53:03 am li...@kitepilot.com wrote:
  Can I just ext3 the SD card ?

 Be warned, there have been some reports of the journal of ext3 wearing out
 its part of the SD card. I tend to use ext2 instead.

Real reports, or just my card broke and I don't know why, so I'll blame 
journalling? If there's an its part of the SD card then the wear levelling 
in the card is broken.


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Re: Do I need a FAT SD card? Do I need OM? Do I need... ? Choices, Choices, Choices...

2009-07-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Be warned, there have been some reports of the journal of ext3 wearing
 out its part of the SD card.

Actually, there haven't been any such report.  There have only been
posts such as yours trying to scare people away.

If you're a masochist, go for ext2 without hesitation.  Otherwise follow
the usual recommendation, regardless of whether the disk is made of
rotating platters or flash memory.


Stefan


PS: Yes, there can be cases where ext3 wears out a flash disk a bit
faster than ext2.  None of those cases should occur on a smartphone.


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Do I need a FAT SD card? Do I need OM? Do I need... ? Choices, Choices, Choices...

2009-07-19 Thread lists
Can I just ext3 the SD card ?
I'm not very fond of FAT... 

Also, as of:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD
It says:
WARNING: Booting from SDHC may cause problems at this time (see below). 

Should I even try to boot from the SD card?
Are there outstanding issues that I should know of? 

How small of a card is too small?
Will 2GB be usable/enough or should I plan on something bigger/smaller? 

Finally, should I Om 2009 or SHR ? 

Thanks!
ET 

PS: This flashing thing ain't easy...
For dumb people like me anyway...   :(

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Re: Do I need a FAT SD card? Do I need OM? Do I need... ? Choices, Choices, Choices...

2009-07-19 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 19 July 2009, li...@kitepilot.com wrote:
 Can I just ext3 the SD card ?
 I'm not very fond of FAT...

You can format it in any thing your kernel will support. ext3 is fine.

 Also, as of:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD
 It says:
 WARNING: Booting from SDHC may cause problems at this time (see below).

Works fine for me. This may refer to the Neo1973, or to old bootloader 
versions.

 Should I even try to boot from the SD card?
 Are there outstanding issues that I should know of?

Some cards don't work reliably at the default clock rate, so you may need a 
kernel command line switch adding to change it. You may need to change the 
uboot parameters for kernels 2MB, or use Qi which handles large kernels and 
boots faster.

 How small of a card is too small?
 Will 2GB be usable/enough or should I plan on something bigger/smaller?

Depends on what you're doing with it. 512MB is fine for most distros, but 2GB 
is probably more appropriate for debian or gentoo. You may want more space if 
you plan to use it for audio. video or maps.

 Finally, should I Om 2009 or SHR ?

 Thanks!
 ET

 PS: This flashing thing ain't easy...
 For dumb people like me anyway...   :(

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Re: Do I need a FAT SD card? Do I need OM? Do I need... ? Choices, Choices, Choices...

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:53:03 am li...@kitepilot.com wrote:

 Can I just ext3 the SD card ?

Be warned, there have been some reports of the journal of ext3 wearing out its 
part of the SD card. I tend to use ext2 instead.

cheers,
Chris
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