Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-23 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 23:01 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: it will be interesting to see which parts of the FCC application are marked 'proprietary'. I really have no idea about this. But if there's something that you want to see, that's marked 'proprietary' let me know and I'll see what I can

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-22 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 14:54 -0400, Duncan Hudson wrote: That’s about as far as I bothered reading – I’ll wait until there is an official FIC response in the next 24-48 hours about how they intend to supply orders in the USA before I bother reading any more. The NEO will be FCC

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-22 Thread Jim Thompson
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 14:54 -0400, Duncan Hudson wrote: That’s about as far as I bothered reading – I’ll wait until there is an official FIC response in the next 24-48 hours about how they intend to supply orders in the USA before I bother reading any more. The NEO

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I had really forgotten about FCC approval until I saw the iPhone certification story. Then it drove home the point that if FIC hasn't started FCC the certification yet the delivery date (at least in the US) is going to slip again. Well, I assume that FIC - having built computers for many

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.05.2007 um 04:57 schrieb Joe Friedrichsen: It would be great to know if any of the P0 folks are US-based as well. The majority sound European, save Rod :-) Well, the EU has similar rules but there is no central FCC. It is called CE and the entity (you personally, a distributor, a

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-21 Thread Duncan Hudson
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On May 21, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Dean Collins wrote: I wonder what percentage of a device can be pre-assembled and still constitute a 'kit' Section 15.23 Home-built devices. (a) Equipment authorization is not required for devices that are not marketed, from a kit,

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-21 Thread Piotr Duda
Sorry guys, but what do you want to certify? P1 device? P1+'s hardware is supposed to change and P2's hardware is supposed to be the same like P1+, but what if not. I do not know certification rules, I can only guess that it needs working device, isn't it? :-) Piotr Duncan Hudson napisał(a):

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-21 Thread Jim Thompson
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 21.05.2007 um 04:57 schrieb Joe Friedrichsen: It would be great to know if any of the P0 folks are US-based as well. The majority sound European, save Rod :-) Well, the EU has similar rules but there is no central FCC. It is called CE and the entity (you

FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Duncan Hudson
Just read that the iPhone was granted FCC approval. I asked along time ago, has the OpenMoko FCC certification process even begun yet? No FCC approval, no license to sell the product in the US... Dunc ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Jim Thompson
Duncan Hudson wrote: Just read that the iPhone was granted FCC approval. I asked along time ago, has the OpenMoko FCC certification process even begun yet? No FCC approval, no license to sell the product in the US... Its not a license. You can't sell, or offer to sell a device subject

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Jason Elwell
May 2007 15:52:06 Jim Thompson wrote: Duncan Hudson wrote: Just read that the iPhone was granted FCC approval. I asked along time ago, has the OpenMoko FCC certification process even begun yet? No FCC approval, no license to sell the product in the US... Its not a license. You can't sell

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Jim Thompson
Jason Elwell wrote: Jim, Question: Do the regulations govern devices that are offered for sale in the US, but not devices that are sold by an off-shore company to people in the US? I was under the impression that any electronic device sold for use in the USA has to be cleared by the FCC.

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
For purposes of the regulations, what exactly is a device? If the actual tranceiver is approved (and I assume it is), does that carry approval for a phone using it? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Jim Thompson
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: For purposes of the regulations, what exactly is a device? If the actual tranceiver is approved (and I assume it is), does that carry approval for a phone using it? http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules/ ___ OpenMoko community

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
It would be great to know if any of the P0 folks are US-based as well. The majority sound European, save Rod :-) Joe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Dean Collins
@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: FCC Approval Joe Pfeiffer wrote: For purposes of the regulations, what exactly is a device? If the actual tranceiver is approved (and I assume it is), does that carry approval for a phone using it? http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules

RE: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Dean Collins
To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: RE: FCC Approval Yep - I love how they say we only have a courtesy copy here for you to view ... excuse me?? You're federal government - I pay my taxes - you work for me!! If you don't want to make the rules available in a non proprietary format

Re: FCC Approval

2007-05-20 Thread Duncan Hudson
Jim Thompson wrote: Duncan Hudson wrote: Just read that the iPhone was granted FCC approval. I asked along time ago, has the OpenMoko FCC certification process even begun yet? No FCC approval, no license to sell the product in the US... Its not a license. You can't sell, or offer to sell