USB host/power script (was Re: Fantastic Experience)
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:52:55 +0200, Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 13.09.2008 um 01:29 schrieb Joel Newkirk: automatically switching things around. I wrote a shell script to let me choose (manually) among the various configurations more easily - when asked to go to 'power-providing' host mode, it checks for 5V presence on the USB port and refuses to send out 5V while it is so. I expect similar functionality will appear soon in the form of an applet. (context menu from the USB tray icon, perhaps?) i was planning such an applet .. is your script somewhere available? ciao, morlac Very sorry, somehow I'd overlooked this post. (and somehow I found it) The script as it stands is attached. It was lost to an SD corruption (I was keeping /usr/local mapped to the card, and keeping mapfiles and temporary storage of things I was working on there) so I've been recreating it. j ggg Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fantastic Experience
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 13.09.2008 um 01:29 schrieb Joel Newkirk: There are also some clever things that can be done on this front that aren't exploited yet, like sensing a resistor's presence or absence and automatically switching things around. I wrote a shell script to let me choose (manually) among the various configurations more easily - when asked to go to 'power-providing' host mode, it checks for 5V presence on the USB port and refuses to send out 5V while it is so. I expect similar functionality will appear soon in the form of an applet. (context menu from the USB tray icon, perhaps?) i was planning such an applet .. is your script somewhere available? ciao, morlac - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIy6mXr81gVylJyzERArSuAKCuQ2Nm1TKpOC9qVEjwLR3lxisYigCfWaQV ALSO2wTZcrZebNoWQsVZ85A= =EBAP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fantastic Experience
I believe Sean and the rest of the Openmoko crowd was thinking in people like you when they decide to start this awesome trip ;) Thanks Scott for this encorageous post :) El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 20:49 -0700, SCarlson escribió: Hello All -- I'd like to pipe in with my New Freerunner experiences thus far. I have had my phone for 2 weeks. I loaded up OM2008.8-update. Here is the list : Solid GSM (Sending and Receiving). No Echo, clear calls, full bars. My SIM Card contact list imported automatically. SMS, Solid. Wifi, also works great. GPS works. 60 second TTFF and 40 second TTFF w/ external antenna (This is without the capacitor fix) microSd works. Suspend/Resume .. solid (minus the GUI setting having no effect. but I don't care, I just suspend manually with the power button when I'm not using it). I made a usb cable, so now my phone can receive standard USB devices.. this opens many doors. When I was shopping for a mobile computer/phone, I scraped the planet for something open and hackable. What I found was nice machines with propriety software that goes through a Telecom company, which is then purposely crippled and released for public consumption. Most of the crippling process is based on a Business model that nickels and dimes us to death for services and features that (I believe) we should already have. In the end, the only answer for me was to by the GTA02. I'd like to say, that I'm here to stay, on the band wagon, lets kick some ass... Completely Satisfied, Scott R Carlson ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fantastic Experience
El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 20:49 -0700, SCarlson escribió: Hello All -- I'd like to pipe in with my New Freerunner experiences thus far. I have had my phone for 2 weeks. I loaded up OM2008.8-update. Here is the list : Solid GSM (Sending and Receiving). No Echo, clear calls, full bars. My SIM Card contact list imported automatically. SMS, Solid. Wifi, also works great. GPS works. 60 second TTFF and 40 second TTFF w/ external antenna (This is without the capacitor fix) microSd works. Suspend/Resume .. solid (minus the GUI setting having no effect. but I don't care, I just suspend manually with the power button when I'm not using it). I made a usb cable, so now my phone can receive standard USB devices.. this opens many doors. When I was shopping for a mobile computer/phone, I scraped the planet for something open and hackable. What I found was nice machines with propriety software that goes through a Telecom company, which is then purposely crippled and released for public consumption. Most of the crippling process is based on a Business model that nickels and dimes us to death for services and features that (I believe) we should already have. In the end, the only answer for me was to by the GTA02. I'd like to say, that I'm here to stay, on the band wagon, lets kick some ass... Completely Satisfied, Scott R Carlson Hi Scott, Thanks for the nice comments which make me even more suffer because I have to wait one or two weeks more until my gadget is supposed to arrive :-) one question to the community: normally you can't switch easy between normal USB mode, i.e. a host is talking to a USB device, and host-to-host mode where two computers are talking to each other; the USB FAQ even warns not to connecting two computers without any kind of USB bridge, because this could damage the computers; see here: http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans5/ how is this electrically organised in the GTA02 that I could just use a gender changer to switch between host-to-host mode or host-to-device mode? thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fantastic Experience
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:20:13 +0200, Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one question to the community: normally you can't switch easy between normal USB mode, i.e. a host is talking to a USB device, and host-to-host mode where two computers are talking to each other; the USB FAQ even warns not to connecting two computers without any kind of USB bridge, because this could damage the computers; see here: http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans5/ how is this electrically organised in the GTA02 that I could just use a gender changer to switch between host-to-host mode or host-to-device mode? thx matthias You cannot just use a gender changer. As you already perceive, that's just the physical connection being adapted. Take a few minutes and read through http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables - the gist of it is that you use a coupler or non-standard cable for the physical connection, and settings in the kernel (configurable on-the-fly, of course) tell the Freerunner whether it is USB Device or USB Host, and whether to expect 5V over the USB to charge power itself, or to provide 5V over USB to power devices. There are also some clever things that can be done on this front that aren't exploited yet, like sensing a resistor's presence or absence and automatically switching things around. I wrote a shell script to let me choose (manually) among the various configurations more easily - when asked to go to 'power-providing' host mode, it checks for 5V presence on the USB port and refuses to send out 5V while it is so. I expect similar functionality will appear soon in the form of an applet. (context menu from the USB tray icon, perhaps?) As an aside: It'd be helpful if we could use a short standard term to differentiate: Host mode providing power vs Host mode permitting charging. Given the non-standard nature of Host mode communication on top of device-mode power, I figure there's no existing standard. powered host mode is descriptive but potentially confusing - what is 'powered': the Freerunner or the devices... Any suggestions, anyone, or someone know of a (short) existing term in use? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fantastic Experience
Hello All -- I'd like to pipe in with my New Freerunner experiences thus far. I have had my phone for 2 weeks. I loaded up OM2008.8-update. Here is the list : Solid GSM (Sending and Receiving). No Echo, clear calls, full bars. My SIM Card contact list imported automatically. SMS, Solid. Wifi, also works great. GPS works. 60 second TTFF and 40 second TTFF w/ external antenna (This is without the capacitor fix) microSd works. Suspend/Resume .. solid (minus the GUI setting having no effect. but I don't care, I just suspend manually with the power button when I'm not using it). I made a usb cable, so now my phone can receive standard USB devices.. this opens many doors. When I was shopping for a mobile computer/phone, I scraped the planet for something open and hackable. What I found was nice machines with propriety software that goes through a Telecom company, which is then purposely crippled and released for public consumption. Most of the crippling process is based on a Business model that nickels and dimes us to death for services and features that (I believe) we should already have. In the end, the only answer for me was to by the GTA02. I'd like to say, that I'm here to stay, on the band wagon, lets kick some ass... Completely Satisfied, Scott R Carlson -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fantastic-Experience-tp1084277p1084277.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community