Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Abdelrazak, I would love to know how to make it act in this manner, I'd love to not wait so long to finish flashing some days. Note that my numbers are theoretical. The protocol overhead from usb and dfuutils might also explain the slowness if it is already running at full speed. The usb driver experts should speak up in order to clarify that issue IMHO. Abdel. PS: Please don't top post -Shawn Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Linus, 15 minutes is average for flashing my FR with anything I've tried so far. From what I found on the wiki the device is only USB1.1 so it isn't going to get any faster than that until a revision which moves to USB2.0. Well, 97MB is 776Mbit, USB1.1 is capable of either 1.5 Mbit/s (Low-Speed) and 12 Mbit/s (Full-Speed). So flashing it should take less than 9 minutes with low speed and a bit more than a minute with full-speed. Maybe I am wrong but my conclusion is that the Freerunner only use the low speed protocol of USB. If I am right, there is room to get 8 times faster on Linux too. Abdel. -Shawn Linus Gasser wrote: Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Ian a écrit : It has occurred to me that it would actually be faster to reflash the neo over wireless - not that I would recommend that practice for hopefully obvious reasons. Well, one could transfer it over wireless, then once it's over there, md5 it and flash it, no? Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Abdelrazak, I would love to know how to make it act in this manner, I'd love to not wait so long to finish flashing some days. -Shawn Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Linus, 15 minutes is average for flashing my FR with anything I've tried so far. From what I found on the wiki the device is only USB1.1 so it isn't going to get any faster than that until a revision which moves to USB2.0. Well, 97MB is 776Mbit, USB1.1 is capable of either 1.5 Mbit/s (Low-Speed) and 12 Mbit/s (Full-Speed). So flashing it should take less than 9 minutes with low speed and a bit more than a minute with full-speed. Maybe I am wrong but my conclusion is that the Freerunner only use the low speed protocol of USB. If I am right, there is room to get 8 times faster on Linux too. Abdel. -Shawn Linus Gasser wrote: Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Wow, that's /almost/ a whole megabit O_O No, seriously I've noticed that it takes forever to flash from Linux too... Seems that the freerunner only has USB1.1 instead of 2.0, but even taking the USB overhead into consideration it still seems awfully slow. I guess that N800 of mine spoilt me with it's unnaturally fast flash in a matter of seconds voodoo magic USB2 stuff. It has occurred to me that it would actually be faster to reflash the neo over wireless - not that I would recommend that practice for hopefully obvious reasons. Cheers, -Ian On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Linus Gasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 06:27:59 Linus Gasser wrote: Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? No, the windows issue was more like 1 hour :S That's a pretty typical time for flashing the rootfs. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Sarton look into running Linux inside VirtualBox. I believe it gives you direct access to all USB devices. Will cut 1hr down to a few minutes. -Nick Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 06:27:59 Linus Gasser wrote: Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? No, the windows issue was more like 1 hour :S That's a pretty typical time for flashing the rootfs. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 11:51:10 nickd wrote: Sarton look into running Linux inside VirtualBox. I believe it gives you direct access to all USB devices. Will cut 1hr down to a few minutes. Thanks Nick, I'm a big fan of virtualbox. I actually run archlinux and my flash time is ~10mins. My main point was that even on linux the time is still ~10 mins, where the original poster seemed to think that was a long time to wait on OSX. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
