Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
You can find water-proof cases here. http://www.otterbox.be/index1.html?lang=nlgclid=CJ3C0v_B_pQCFROI1Qod-hyCqg I haven't checked if it actually fits. Peter Nijs Op Monday 04 August 2008 05:27:14 schreef Tim Erwin: I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides- free/ That looks great! Add a weather proof case/cover and a dynamo charger and that will make for some awesome riding. Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
On Thursday 07 August 2008 05:45:11 Michael Shiloh wrote: Please someone create a wiki page for Freerunner biking enthusiasts. There seem to be quite a few of you and it would be great to consolidate all this information in one place. I don't bike much. My motive is to have a great example to show when I am asked what community members are doing with the Freerunner. Michael atweb wrote: Hi, Yesterday, I bought a Solar-Charger from Ansmann. Later this week, I will test it (We have until Monday a Town-Party). cu Markus Brad Midgley schrieb: Hey The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. I like the idea of a hub dynamo or using induction like the reelight. I don't like the idea of a separate dynamo that has to make physical contact with the wheel. It would probably generate more energy in the form of heat than electricity :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Hey Looks like there still was no page so I created it: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Biking I didn't see how to add it to the technical category. Maybe someone can help out there. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Brad Midgley wrote: Hey Looks like there still was no page so I created it: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Biking I didn't see how to add it to the technical category. Maybe someone can help out there. Thanks Brad, I just finished 3 days of talking non-stop about Openmoko at Linuxworld. There was a lot of interest in using Openmoko on a bicycle. I directed them all to the wiki, so your work is just in time. Thanks Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Please someone create a wiki page for Freerunner biking enthusiasts. There seem to be quite a few of you and it would be great to consolidate all this information in one place. I don't bike much. My motive is to have a great example to show when I am asked what community members are doing with the Freerunner. Michael atweb wrote: Hi, Yesterday, I bought a Solar-Charger from Ansmann. Later this week, I will test it (We have until Monday a Town-Party). cu Markus Brad Midgley schrieb: Hey The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. I like the idea of a hub dynamo or using induction like the reelight. I don't like the idea of a separate dynamo that has to make physical contact with the wheel. It would probably generate more energy in the form of heat than electricity :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. [x] Interested! :) I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/ I'll go for another bike ride right now... ;) André signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
That's exactly what I've been looking for, does it hold it well? Would you be confident going over speed bumps or down a bumpy tracks at speed? Tim On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:37 PM, André Gaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. [x] Interested! :) I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/ I'll go for another bike ride right now... ;) André ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
That's exactly what I've been looking for, does it hold it well? Would you be confident going over speed bumps or down a bumpy tracks at speed? Hi Tim! It holds the Freerunner pretty well, but for a bumpy track I would use the hole at the bottom of the Freerunner to secure it additionally with some sort of belt at the handle bar. Just to make sure it does not become airborne and leave the earth's atmosphere. ;) I will do this too, because sometimes I need (or want) to drive down a kerbstone and I would bite my own ass if it hits the concrete! :) cheers, André ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Yesterday Marko Mäkelä sent me some interesting information about a charging solution for bicycles. He's not on the list and wants me to forward his mail: Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride Datum: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:56:15 +0300 An: André Gaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: community@lists.openmoko.org I'm not subscribed to the list, but I've been following the development of the OpenMoko since the Neo1973 was announced. André, I think I can answer your question: The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. The c't article features a step-up/down converter that outputs 5 volts and a battery charger for 4 Ni-MH cells. I suppose that you'd be only using the 5-volt supply. However, I have designed a much simpler and cheaper solution that I believe should work at 500 mA. I don't know if you can convince the Freerunner to input 500 mA instead of 100 or 1000 mA, or if you can tell the Freerunner to adjust its charge current according to the voltage, as per the USB battery charging specification that the Freerunner does not comply with. My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts: http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/ The SMD version is about 14mm*22 mm, so it can be fitted inside the head tube, for example. I know of two switch-mode regulators: the c't one (which is available as a kit from segor.de) and a commercial product, the JaWeTec BikeCharger. I don't think that they're significantly better than my cheap and simple circuit. Fully charging an old Nokia DCT-3 series phone (about 1 Ah) takes about 50 km when riding at an average speed of 20 km/h. I'm going to build a small series (5 or 10 or so) of the circuit and sell it to fellow hobbyists at about 10 EUR. It'd be nice to see this being sold as a commercial product (for a similar price, I guess). Best regards, Marko Mäkelä signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Hey My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts: http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/ a switching regulator would generate less waste heat and present less physical resistance in the dynamo. Maybe it's negligible, but it's not that much expense to upgrade from a linear regulator. I have one of these http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SW050.htm that I could try once I have a hub dynamo. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
2008/8/4 Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts: http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/ a switching regulator would generate less waste heat and present less physical resistance in the dynamo. Maybe it's negligible, but it's not that much expense to upgrade from a linear regulator. I have one of these http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SW050.htm that I could try once I have a hub dynamo. i like the idea of a generator to charge the neo, but don't like the idea of using my pedal power directly. has anyone seen any regenerative generators that replace the brakes to simultaneously slow down the bike and provide a current for charging? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_braking ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Put it on the wiki somewhere. Sounds cool. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Midgley Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride Hey My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts: http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/ a switching regulator would generate less waste heat and present less physical resistance in the dynamo. Maybe it's negligible, but it's not that much expense to upgrade from a linear regulator. I have one of these http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SW050.htm that I could try once I have a hub dynamo. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Robin i like the idea of a generator to charge the neo, but don't like the idea of using my pedal power directly. Maybe for you it makes more sense to power off the screen and gps so you can get to your destination quicker :) In practice, people haven't been successful in regenerating efficiently enough to get decent power and keep it effortless to the biker. It would be more productive to put flexible solar on your backpack. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/ That looks great! Add a weather proof case/cover and a dynamo charger and that will make for some awesome riding. Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Freerunner-powered bike ride
hi André, is it something like this? http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/511 my friend likes riding bicycle but he laugh at me when I offered he the possibility to mount and charge FR. I would like to show him the photo of mount-kit, and even the charger after you finish it. Best Regards, Mac Lin Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:17:51 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Freerunner-powered bike ride Hi community! Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. It's a universal mobile phone bike-mount-kit by LesCars (don't want to push the brand, but there are only few mount-kits for bikes out there) [1]. All ports (USB, GPS, audio) and the 2 buttons are usable with this mount-kit. With tangoGPS I had a lot of fun riding around town exploring new roads for Openstreetmap. ;) The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. The article provides detailed instructions for building it yourself, but I don't have the necessary soldering skills. So I'll have to ask soldering-experts... ;) Happy ridin! André [1] description in german: http://www.pearl.de/a-PX2065-4044.shtml [2] ct magazine 23/2007 page 190, german language (http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/07/23/190) _ �S身的 Windows Live Messenger 和 Hotmail，不限�r地掌握�Y���M在指�g ― Windows Live for Mobile http://www.msn.com.tw/msnmobile/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Hi there! Hi community! Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. [x] Interested! :) It's a universal mobile phone bike-mount-kit by LesCars (don't want to push the brand, but there are only few mount-kits for bikes out there) [1]. All ports (USB, GPS, audio) and the 2 buttons are usable with this mount-kit. With tangoGPS I had a lot of fun riding around town exploring new roads for Openstreetmap. ;) The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. The article provides detailed instructions for building it yourself, but I don't have the necessary soldering skills. So I'll have to ask soldering-experts... ;) Interestingly, that's precisely the thing I had in mind. I just bought a bike today, and am planning to somehow build the c't usb-charger for a bike (probably with some friends with soldering-skills, too ;) ) some time in the not too distant future. Maybe we can exchange experiences with that :) Happy ridin! André [1] description in german: http://www.pearl.de/a-PX2065-4044.shtml [2] ct magazine 23/2007 page 190, german language (http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/07/23/190) So long, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Freerunner-powered bike ride
This community rocks. Jetskis or hang gliders anyone? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Konstantin Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:55 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride Hi there! Hi community! Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. [x] Interested! :) It's a universal mobile phone bike-mount-kit by LesCars (don't want to push the brand, but there are only few mount-kits for bikes out there) [1]. All ports (USB, GPS, audio) and the 2 buttons are usable with this mount-kit. With tangoGPS I had a lot of fun riding around town exploring new roads for Openstreetmap. ;) The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. The article provides detailed instructions for building it yourself, but I don't have the necessary soldering skills. So I'll have to ask soldering-experts... ;) Interestingly, that's precisely the thing I had in mind. I just bought a bike today, and am planning to somehow build the c't usb-charger for a bike (probably with some friends with soldering-skills, too ;) ) some time in the not too distant future. Maybe we can exchange experiences with that :) Happy ridin! André [1] description in german: http://www.pearl.de/a-PX2065-4044.shtml [2] ct magazine 23/2007 page 190, german language (http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/07/23/190) So long, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Go karts, actually. :) On 8/2/08, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This community rocks. Jetskis or hang gliders anyone? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Konstantin Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:55 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride Hi there! Hi community! Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. [x] Interested! :) It's a universal mobile phone bike-mount-kit by LesCars (don't want to push the brand, but there are only few mount-kits for bikes out there) [1]. All ports (USB, GPS, audio) and the 2 buttons are usable with this mount-kit. With tangoGPS I had a lot of fun riding around town exploring new roads for Openstreetmap. ;) The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. The article provides detailed instructions for building it yourself, but I don't have the necessary soldering skills. So I'll have to ask soldering-experts... ;) Interestingly, that's precisely the thing I had in mind. I just bought a bike today, and am planning to somehow build the c't usb-charger for a bike (probably with some friends with soldering-skills, too ;) ) some time in the not too distant future. Maybe we can exchange experiences with that :) Happy ridin! André [1] description in german: http://www.pearl.de/a-PX2065-4044.shtml [2] ct magazine 23/2007 page 190, german language (http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/07/23/190) So long, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Hey I would like to show him the photo of mount-kit, and even the charger after you finish it. I have a bike mount that is single-use. It's not so impressive, but it was just 10c. I snapped a pic before trimming it :) http://www.xmission.com/~bmidgley/neobike.jpg -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
André Gaul wrote: Hi community! Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. It's a universal mobile phone bike-mount-kit by LesCars (don't want to push the brand, but there are only few mount-kits for bikes out there) [1]. All ports (USB, GPS, audio) and the 2 buttons are usable with this mount-kit. With tangoGPS I had a lot of fun riding around town exploring new roads for Openstreetmap. ;) yup same here... i'm definitely interested also check this project www.obico.de juergen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
http://www.xmission.com/~bmidgley/neobike.jpg you don't like your neo, do you? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Hello On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 15:15 -0600, Brad Midgley wrote: Hey I would like to show him the photo of mount-kit, and even the charger after you finish it. I have a bike mount that is single-use. It's not so impressive, but it was just 10c. I snapped a pic before trimming it :) http://www.xmission.com/~bmidgley/neobike.jpg Now only if this was running tangoGPS, and speaking out Turn left for burger... This would be Heaven. -- Ritesh Khadgaray Ph: +919970164885 Desktop LinuX N Stuff, RHCE Software Maintenance Engineer, Pune, Red Hat ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Hi, Yesterday, I bought a Solar-Charger from Ansmann. Later this week, I will test it (We have until Monday a Town-Party). cu Markus Brad Midgley schrieb: Hey The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. I like the idea of a hub dynamo or using induction like the reelight. I don't like the idea of a separate dynamo that has to make physical contact with the wheel. It would probably generate more energy in the form of heat than electricity :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Freerunner-powered bike ride
I own three. Quarter Midgets actually. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Federico Lorenzi Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:13 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride Go karts, actually. :) On 8/2/08, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This community rocks. Jetskis or hang gliders anyone? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Konstantin Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:55 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride Hi there! Hi community! Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks like and how the Freerunner fits in. [x] Interested! :) It's a universal mobile phone bike-mount-kit by LesCars (don't want to push the brand, but there are only few mount-kits for bikes out there) [1]. All ports (USB, GPS, audio) and the 2 buttons are usable with this mount-kit. With tangoGPS I had a lot of fun riding around town exploring new roads for Openstreetmap. ;) The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. The article provides detailed instructions for building it yourself, but I don't have the necessary soldering skills. So I'll have to ask soldering-experts... ;) Interestingly, that's precisely the thing I had in mind. I just bought a bike today, and am planning to somehow build the c't usb-charger for a bike (probably with some friends with soldering-skills, too ;) ) some time in the not too distant future. Maybe we can exchange experiences with that :) Happy ridin! André [1] description in german: http://www.pearl.de/a-PX2065-4044.shtml [2] ct magazine 23/2007 page 190, german language (http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/07/23/190) So long, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
