Re: Freerunner in real world
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:47:59PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2009/9/14 Paul Fertser > > > FR can and always could charge nokia batteries. Please read battery > > questions and answers on the wiki. > > The wiki is not clear on this. Please say which wiki page is broken (so it can be fixed). -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On 10/1/09, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> It's only displayed when dumb battery is inserted. > > Duh! So there is code that can automatically detect when a dumb-battery > is inserted, but the kernel's driver isn't able to automatically (and > dynamically) choose which driver to use? Sounds like there's room > for improvement. > > > Stefan Well, it was simplification from my side. When CC won't respond for a while or there will be no battery inserted, SHR Settings will also display that button. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
> It's only displayed when dumb battery is inserted. Duh! So there is code that can automatically detect when a dumb-battery is inserted, but the kernel's driver isn't able to automatically (and dynamically) choose which driver to use? Sounds like there's room for improvement. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On 9/30/09, William Kenworthy wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:08 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> On 9/29/09, Michal Brzozowski wrote: >> > 2009/9/29 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak >> >> >> >> From kernel, FSO supports it too. Just click on "Switch to dumb >> >> battery driver" in SHR Settings->Power->Battery. >> >> >> > >> > I don't seem to have this option when ophonekitd is not running. Would >> > you >> > mind telling me how it's done in the low level? >> > >> >> It's completely unrelated to ophonekitd, but to have it displayed you >> need of course some other than FRs battery inserted. >> >> At switching to dumb battery driver was described in battery FAQ. SHR >> Settings just implements it. >> > > which version/date of shr-settings has this? - I have updated to > approximately 2 weeks ago when the shr builds broke (i.e., I have not > had a good local build since :( and none of these settings are > visible ... > > BillK It's only displayed when dumb battery is inserted. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:08 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/29/09, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > > 2009/9/29 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > >> > >> From kernel, FSO supports it too. Just click on "Switch to dumb > >> battery driver" in SHR Settings->Power->Battery. > >> > > > > I don't seem to have this option when ophonekitd is not running. Would you > > mind telling me how it's done in the low level? > > > > It's completely unrelated to ophonekitd, but to have it displayed you > need of course some other than FRs battery inserted. > > At switching to dumb battery driver was described in battery FAQ. SHR > Settings just implements it. > which version/date of shr-settings has this? - I have updated to approximately 2 weeks ago when the shr builds broke (i.e., I have not had a good local build since :( and none of these settings are visible ... BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
2009/9/29 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > > It's completely unrelated to ophonekitd, but to have it displayed you > need of course some other than FRs battery inserted. > Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see it. Or maybe I have an old version of settings. > > At switching to dumb battery driver was described in battery FAQ. SHR > Settings just implements it. > Thanks! I wasn't aware of the battery FAQ. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On 9/29/09, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2009/9/29 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak >> >> From kernel, FSO supports it too. Just click on "Switch to dumb >> battery driver" in SHR Settings->Power->Battery. >> > > I don't seem to have this option when ophonekitd is not running. Would you > mind telling me how it's done in the low level? > It's completely unrelated to ophonekitd, but to have it displayed you need of course some other than FRs battery inserted. At switching to dumb battery driver was described in battery FAQ. SHR Settings just implements it. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
2009/9/29 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > > From kernel, FSO supports it too. Just click on "Switch to dumb > battery driver" in SHR Settings->Power->Battery. > I don't seem to have this option when ophonekitd is not running. Would you mind telling me how it's done in the low level? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On 9/29/09, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2009/9/29 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > The wiki is not clear on this. Can you tell that a nokia battery you've >> been >> > charging is fully charged? >> > >> >> You can even have approx. percentage and time displayed. Even more - >> it's supported out-of-box by SHR ;) >> > > Where does SHR take that info from? As I see, FSO doesn't support it. At > least the LEDs don't indicate the battery status. > >From kernel, FSO supports it too. Just click on "Switch to dumb battery driver" in SHR Settings->Power->Battery. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
2009/9/29 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > > > > Hi, > > > > The wiki is not clear on this. Can you tell that a nokia battery you've > been > > charging is fully charged? > > > > You can even have approx. percentage and time displayed. Even more - > it's supported out-of-box by SHR ;) > Where does SHR take that info from? As I see, FSO doesn't support it. At least the LEDs don't indicate the battery status. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On 9/29/09, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2009/9/14 Paul Fertser > >> >> FR can and always could charge nokia batteries. Please read battery >> questions and answers on the wiki. >> > > Hi, > > The wiki is not clear on this. Can you tell that a nokia battery you've been > charging is fully charged? > You can even have approx. percentage and time displayed. Even more - it's supported out-of-box by SHR ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
2009/9/14 Paul Fertser > > FR can and always could charge nokia batteries. Please read battery > questions and answers on the wiki. > Hi, The wiki is not clear on this. Can you tell that a nokia battery you've been charging is fully charged? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Cry wrote: > Michael Pilgermann gmx.de> writes: >> also with some troubles with the sun making the >> reading from the display rather hard > > Does anyone have a solution for this? I can't see the screen on my > freerunner when I am in sunshine. It is completely washed out. > > Does anyone have an anti-glare coating they've used on their freerunner > successfully? I don't remember who/where recommended it to me (was on a web page, probably a blog or similar), but shortly after getting my FR I bought one each of these screen protectors: [1] [2] My main concern was protecting the screen from scratches, but it's not like reducing glare was a bad thing either. I figured I'd try them both out and see which I liked best, since they were fairly cheap, and the page said it would be a personal preference (both being good). At the moment I'm not 100% sure which one I ended up using, but I *think* it's [1] - and I can't recall having any major problems using the screen outdoors afterwards (as long as the angle isn't precisely wrong, in which case you'd just tilt the FR slightly or move your head). YMMV, I'm up north, and haven't used it all that much while outdoors... Applying it to the FR's screen required taking the front cover off, as the protector is slightly larger than the visible screen area (but not really any larger than the screen itself IIRC). This wasn't difficult, and hasn't caused me any problems (as far as I'm aware, of course). [1] http://shop.brando.com/bw-dc-dv-screen-protector-3-5-inch-_p01005c0019d008.html [2] http://shop.brando.com/bw-ultraclear-dc-dv-s-p-3-5-inch-_p00032c0018d008.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Laszlo KREKACS gmail.com> writes: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Cry yahoo.com> wrote: > > I can't see the screen on my freerunner when I am in > > sunshine. It is completely washed out. > > Did you tried paroli? It has a black&white design for a reason.;) > I can read the screen without problem in direct sunlight too. > Laszlo, I can't even see the screen in direct sunlight, I just see a reflection of the sky. I have to hold the phone upside down to be able to read it and then it is washed out. Black and white mode __would__ make that easier. I should try the polarized sunglass idea and see if that helps. Cry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Michael Pilgermann wrote: > Dear all, > > last weekend I went for a small cycling tour and I thought, with gps in my > Freerunner and track load capabilities of tangogps there is no need anymore > for physical maps - I took the Freerunner with me. > > I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No problems > with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. > However, two small problems: > - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a front > bag and this was somehow a pain; I bought a generic phone holder for cars. They are adjustable to fit many phones, so you can find one that fits the FR. It wasn't that hard to attach the holder to the bike. It was meant to be glued to the car window, I glued it to the gearshifter cover on the bike. And secured it with cable ties, in case the glue doesn't hold. > - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another > (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( > If you can't find a battery, get a generic "USB power supply". The FR is fortunately not the only phone that is charged via USB. So there are many generic USB chargers around. I would not be surprised if you can find one that contains plain AA batteries. Such devices certainly exists for nokia and ericsson phones. You can save power by letting the display turn off - just tap it when you actually need to see the map. Lower backlight intensity at night also saves power. > So my question: has anybody got any experiences with > - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) The sun is tricky - polarized sunglasses may remove reflected light though. The same problem exists in boats, have a look at sun covers for boat instruments. Might need some work though. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Freerunner in real world
>> BTW: Next gen freerunner should use OLPC style screen. Low power >> digital ink screen would be perfect for daytime phone use. > > Thats perfectly true. I've got one OLPC and the screen is really amazing. > Unfortunately, the lady who did the screen development, Mary Lou Jepsen, > has left the OLPC project as far as I know. > Too bad that good things seem to die too early... > > I really was considering screwing the OLPC on my bike, using the FR as > GPS. Both open software, using USB or WiFi, could make fun. And what about an ambient light detector like the upcoming Nokia N9000? It would be great to have on the next FR. _ Je hele online leven op één stek met Windows Live http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/default.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Cry wrote: >> Does anyone have a solution for this? I can't see the screen on my >> freerunner when I am in sunshine. It is completely washed out. > > Did you tried paroli? It has a black&white design for a reason.;) > I can read the screen without problem in direct sunlight too. > > I know there is no gps app with similar design, but Im working on it;-) > In the mean time, someone could make a navit color scheme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Cry wrote: > Does anyone have a solution for this? I can't see the screen on my > freerunner when I am in sunshine. It is completely washed out. Did you tried paroli? It has a black&white design for a reason.;) I can read the screen without problem in direct sunlight too. I know there is no gps app with similar design, but Im working on it;-) Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
[image: kg71ljl6.jpg] cheep water protecter 2009/9/14 Michael Pilgermann > Dear all, > > last weekend I went for a small cycling tour and I thought, with gps in my > Freerunner and track load capabilities of tangogps there is no need anymore > for physical maps - I took the Freerunner with me. > > I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No > problems with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. > However, two small problems: > - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a > front bag and this was somehow a pain; also with some troubles with the sun > making the reading from the display rather hard > - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another > (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( > > So my question: has anybody got any experiences with > - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) > - using some additional batteries? > > Thx in advance for you input; greetings > Michael > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Wednesday 16 September 2009, Alexander Lehner wrote: > On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Cry wrote: > > BTW: Next gen freerunner should use OLPC style screen. Low power > > digital ink screen would be perfect for daytime phone use. > > Thats perfectly true. I've got one OLPC and the screen is really amazing. > Unfortunately, the lady who did the screen development, Mary Lou Jepsen, > has left the OLPC project as far as I know. > Too bad that good things seem to die too early... She's continuing development at PixelQi and they're supposed to be releasing netbook size screens shortly. I would love to see this technology in an open phone, but in the meantime a transreflective screen like the one on the Flow would be good. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Cry wrote: > BTW: Next gen freerunner should use OLPC style screen. Low power > digital ink screen would be perfect for daytime phone use. Thats perfectly true. I've got one OLPC and the screen is really amazing. Unfortunately, the lady who did the screen development, Mary Lou Jepsen, has left the OLPC project as far as I know. Too bad that good things seem to die too early... I really was considering screwing the OLPC on my bike, using the FR as GPS. Both open software, using USB or WiFi, could make fun. Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Michael Pilgermann gmx.de> writes: > also with some troubles with the sun making the > reading from the display rather hard Does anyone have a solution for this? I can't see the screen on my freerunner when I am in sunshine. It is completely washed out. Does anyone have an anti-glare coating they've used on their freerunner successfully? BTW: Next gen freerunner should use OLPC style screen. Low power digital ink screen would be perfect for daytime phone use. Cry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:52:12 +0200 Marcel wrote: > SHR-U is SHR's Unstable branch, the actively developed one. Your > installation seems to be an Unstable one, a non-updated though. I had no > problems upgrading from 8-8-2009 to today. Okay, thanks. I updated to the current version a couple of weeks ago and lost the ability to use GSM, among other things. I have since read about the necessity to reset kernel module dependencies after some updates. So if unstable is working at the moment I will do an update tonight. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Hi, I am using for more than a year: - very cheap universal bike phone holder - I have only Czech shop URL, but I believe there should be many of such holders around. http://www.mnshop.cz/zbozi-822-univerzalni_drzak_pro_pda_a_mobilni_telefony_na_kolo.htm this one costs about EUR 12 - portable power supply http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/usbliionbatterypack.htm. it will give you about two full battery rounds, so you will get something like 15 hours of battery life with GPS on. now I am also using a front bike bag http://www.alfa-sport.cz/cyklisticke-brasny-riditka/sport-arsenal-brasna-na-riditka-510 to hold the power supply (and a camera, my wallet, ...). bye, Alef 2009/9/14 rhn : > Michael Pilgermann wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> last weekend I went for a small cycling tour and I thought, with gps in my >> Freerunner and track load capabilities of tangogps there is no need anymore >> for physical maps - I took the Freerunner with me. >> >> I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No >> problems with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. >> However, two small problems: >> - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a front >> bag and this was somehow a pain; also with some troubles with the sun making >> the reading from the display rather hard >> - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another >> (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( >> >> So my question: has anybody got any experiences with >> - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) >> - using some additional batteries? >> >> Thx in advance for you input; greetings >> Michael >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Once, I used a "USB battery v2" from Hackaday (4 AA batteries) that I > soldered myself. It made the FR work twice as long, but the main battery was > drained to 0%, what doesn't sound healthy. > My not-so-new batteries seemed not to be able to provide the phone with > enough power for it to boot. > > Cheers, > rhn > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Am Dienstag, den 15.09.2009, 06:44 +1000 schrieb Michael Smith: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:42:46 +0200 > "Michael Pilgermann" wrote: > > > > > I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No > > > problems with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. > > > > > > What distribution do you use, and what version? I don't have working GPS > > > at all with FSO. > > > > I am using SHR-U, which is doing the job very well. > > Thanks. What exactly is SHR-U? I have searched the wiki but I can't find that > term used anywhere. I am running SHR in NAND from 8 August but I haven't > updated it. Is your system up to date with opkg? I am trying to identify the > differences behind my problem. SHR-U is SHR's Unstable branch, the actively developed one. Your installation seems to be an Unstable one, a non-updated though. I had no problems upgrading from 8-8-2009 to today. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:42:46 +0200 "Michael Pilgermann" wrote: > > > I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No > > problems with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. > > > > What distribution do you use, and what version? I don't have working GPS > > at all with FSO. > > I am using SHR-U, which is doing the job very well. Thanks. What exactly is SHR-U? I have searched the wiki but I can't find that term used anywhere. I am running SHR in NAND from 8 August but I haven't updated it. Is your system up to date with opkg? I am trying to identify the differences behind my problem. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Michael Pilgermann wrote: > Dear all, > > last weekend I went for a small cycling tour and I thought, with gps in my > Freerunner and track load capabilities of tangogps there is no need anymore > for physical maps - I took the Freerunner with me. > > I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No problems > with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. > However, two small problems: > - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a front > bag and this was somehow a pain; also with some troubles with the sun making > the reading from the display rather hard > - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another > (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( > > So my question: has anybody got any experiences with > - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) > - using some additional batteries? > > Thx in advance for you input; greetings > Michael > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Once, I used a "USB battery v2" from Hackaday (4 AA batteries) that I soldered myself. It made the FR work twice as long, but the main battery was drained to 0%, what doesn't sound healthy. My not-so-new batteries seemed not to be able to provide the phone with enough power for it to boot. Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Hi Michael, > > I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No > problems with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. > > What distribution do you use, and what version? I don't have working GPS > at all with FSO. I am using SHR-U, which is doing the job very well. > > > However, two small problems: > > - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a > front bag and this was somehow a pain; also with some troubles with the sun > making the reading from the display rather hard > > I have a mobile phone handlebar case which I use with my etrex. The > openmoko just barely goes in. I might have to look for a slightly larger case. Yeah, I checked some cases as well on the Net; I am a bit concerned about the Freerunner dropping out of this thing ... have to give it a go. > > > - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another > (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( > > If I was touring I would consider taking solar power. Or maybe using > suspend for part of the time. Well; I tried suspend at the beginning; but that's not really fun - the track gets dropped in tangoGPS and you have to re-orientate yourself; I think - when driving using GPS - I want this map in front of me all the time ;) Thx Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
For the Powerissue I can recommend the Minty-powerboost (although u have to use AAA-Batteries)It got me through a 6 houer hike with no Suspend,GPS and GSM on The next thing I'll trie is this one http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-solar-iPodiPhone-charger-aka-Might/ might be better for hiking/bikeing and should get u through longer trips due to the solarpanel and the recahrchable battery inside. Am Montag, den 14.09.2009, 10:44 +0200 schrieb Michael Pilgermann: > Dear all, > > last weekend I went for a small cycling tour and I thought, with gps in my > Freerunner and track load capabilities of tangogps there is no need anymore > for physical maps - I took the Freerunner with me. > > I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No problems > with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. > However, two small problems: > - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a front > bag and this was somehow a pain; also with some troubles with the sun making > the reading from the display rather hard > - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another > (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( > > So my question: has anybody got any experiences with > - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) > - using some additional batteries? > > Thx in advance for you input; greetings > Michael > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
> - using some additional batteries? i was just about to buy Just Mobile Gum PRO Mobile Power Pack 440 7 x 5,2 x 2,2 cm ; 150 g; 4400 mAh, 1000mA Output which should solve the need to shutdown and exchange battery. from the measurements it's neither big nor heavy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:44:21 +0200 "Michael Pilgermann" wrote: > last weekend I went for a small cycling tour and I thought, with gps in my > Freerunner and track load capabilities of tangogps there is no need anymore > for physical maps - I took the Freerunner with me. > > I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No problems > with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. What distribution do you use, and what version? I don't have working GPS at all with FSO. > However, two small problems: > - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a front > bag and this was somehow a pain; also with some troubles with the sun making > the reading from the display rather hard I have a mobile phone handlebar case which I use with my etrex. The openmoko just barely goes in. I might have to look for a slightly larger case. > - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another > (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( If I was touring I would consider taking solar power. Or maybe using suspend for part of the time. > > So my question: has anybody got any experiences with > - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) > - using some additional batteries? USB power is fairly easy to wire up. You just need to provide regulated power. The problem for me would be the mass of the external battery. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
2009/9/14 Michael Pilgermann > - using some additional batteries? > I've used the FR on an 8-day bike trip. I had 2 spare nokia batteries and recharged them once, halfway through the trip. I had the GSM turned off permanently and the FR suspended most of the time, using it once every hour or so to look at the map see my location. I used some proprietary maps :-). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
Martin Jansa writes: > I've spare battery from some old nokia, its BL-5C, but freerunner cannot > charge it (I've read somewhere, didn't test it), so I'm using that old > nokia phone as charger :). FR can and always could charge nokia batteries. Please read battery questions and answers on the wiki. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
"Michael Pilgermann" writes: > So my question: has anybody got any experiences with > - using some additional batteries? Just get some dirt-cheap nokia BL-6C (or 5C) spares. :) -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner in real world
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:44:21AM +0200, Michael Pilgermann wrote: > So my question: has anybody got any experiences with > - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) Haven't seen wit sun protection, but this looks good http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Biking#Bike_Mounts also some more info in thread http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td666287 > - using some additional batteries? I've spare battery from some old nokia, its BL-5C, but freerunner cannot charge it (I've read somewhere, didn't test it), so I'm using that old nokia phone as charger :). Pity that speaker volume is too low for me to understand what is navit talking about route directions.. First I was able to hear neo talking was at home after 50km trip :), maybe next time I should try to integrate BT headset to bike helmet :). > Thx in advance for you input; greetings You're welcome -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner in real world
Dear all, last weekend I went for a small cycling tour and I thought, with gps in my Freerunner and track load capabilities of tangogps there is no need anymore for physical maps - I took the Freerunner with me. I was really impressed, how smoothly the whole thing was working. No problems with the GPS; no problems with tangogps either. However, two small problems: - I could not attach the phone properly to my bike; had to put it in a front bag and this was somehow a pain; also with some troubles with the sun making the reading from the display rather hard - The power capacity was just enough to bring me from A to B; another (longer) trip might result in troubles / me getting lost :( So my question: has anybody got any experiences with - attaching a Freerunner to a bike (maybe even incl. sun protection) - using some additional batteries? Thx in advance for you input; greetings Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
