Re: Freerunner not charging?
Scott Derrick wrote: Russell Sears wrote: You're hitting a bug that has been fixed in the newest kernel release: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1158 So I can get the latest kernel with ASU, FSO, Qtopia, 2007.2??? Scott It would appear so. I got the latest kernel of 2007.2 (and the rootfs with it in my case, but that's because I'm still experimenting with the Openmoko) And it seems to be solved for me. --- Marcel MadJo de Jong -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freerunner-not-charging--tp662177p663960.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner not charging?
Hello all, I got my Neo Freerunner yesterday in the mail (yay!). After turning it on, I plugged in the wall-charger. I saw no leds turn on, but I did see the icon in the screen change from a green battery to a battery with a lighting icon in it. So I figured it was charging. The same was true when I plugged in the USB cable to connect it to my computer. No LEDs blinking or burning, but it did show the battery icon with lightning. However, when I unplugged it this morning, after a few seconds being green, the battery icon became red. Which led me to believe that it wasn't charged. So I left it at home, tethered to the wallcharger. I did reflash the device a few times last night. (First a version of FSO and later a version of Scaredycat) Not sure if that's relevant. But now my questions: 1) should there be a led indicating it's charging? 2) and is it normal for the icon to appear red after it had a chance to charge overnight? (about 7hrs of charge time) 3) or should I leave it in longer for the first time? --- Marcel MadJo de Jong -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freerunner-not-charging--tp662177p662177.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
1) should there be a led indicating it's charging? nope. 2) and is it normal for the icon to appear red after it had a chance to charge overnight? (about 7hrs of charge time) 3) or should I leave it in longer for the first time? there have been several reports of the fr discharging when connected to usb (incl charger) for a long time. so that bug might have bitten you as well. the flash from green to red might be due to an additional bug in redrawing the icon correctly (i recall at least one posting, i think). i am absolutely not sure how a fresh li-ion battery likes to be handled -- some manuals say you need to discharge and recharge a few times to get the full capacity, others do not. stroller announced a well thought strategy how to handly his freerunner's battery -- but that was before he got his fr, so no clue what to do :-) did you flash your u-boot, too? what image (rootfs, kernel) do you use right now? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
1) should there be a led indicating it's charging? nope. Ok, then I don't have to worry about that. (would be nice to have though) 2) and is it normal for the icon to appear red after it had a chance to charge overnight? (about 7hrs of charge time) 3) or should I leave it in longer for the first time? there have been several reports of the fr discharging when connected to usb (incl charger) for a long time. so that bug might have bitten you as well. the flash from green to red might be due to an additional bug in redrawing the icon correctly (i recall at least one posting, i think). i am absolutely not sure how a fresh li-ion battery likes to be handled -- some manuals say you need to discharge and recharge a few times to get the full capacity, others do not. stroller announced a well thought strategy how to handly his freerunner's battery -- but that was before he got his fr, so no clue what to do :-) But wasn't it so that the freerunner can't recharge the battery if it's completely empty? did you flash your u-boot, too? what image (rootfs, kernel) do you use right now? Yes, I flashed the uboot, the kernel and rootfs. Uboot is: (u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+svnr4297+gitb29661fc115106454288051bc9a488351ce8-r3.bin) Rootfs is: (scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-om-gta02.jffs2) And I believe (but I can only check that when I get home tonight) that I used this for the uImage: uImage-2.6.24+git20080507-r0-om-gta02.bin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freerunner-not-charging--tp662177p662216.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
1) should there be a led indicating it's charging? nope. Ok, then I don't have to worry about that. (would be nice to have though) well, you can fiddle with /sys/, but it does not work reliably. But wasn't it so that the freerunner can't recharge the battery if it's completely empty? yeah. that's what makes the bug so ... dear. did you flash your u-boot, too? what image (rootfs, kernel) do you use right now? Yes, I flashed the uboot, the kernel and rootfs. Uboot is: (u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+svnr4297+gitb29661fc115106454288051bc9a488351ce8-r3.bin) boy, i hope these things get a humand readbly name soon. maybe andy cann say from looking at what birthday this thing has. Rootfs is: (scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-om-gta02.jffs2) And I believe (but I can only check that when I get home tonight) that I used this for the uImage: uImage-2.6.24+git20080507-r0-om-gta02.bin i'd think rootfs and uImage should match -- else you might get annoying effects with modules not loading (the uImage only flashes the boot-area, if the kernel of uImage and the kernel/modules of rootfs do not match, things may not work as expected). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
Marcel MadJo de Jong wrote: Hello all, However, when I unplugged it this morning, after a few seconds being green, the battery icon became red. Which led me to believe that it wasn't charged. So I left it at home, tethered to the wallcharger. Same thing happened to me yesterday, I have the latest stable 2007.2 installed. Haven't touched uboot. FR was on a 500ma charger all night. While driving to Albuquerque, I turned it on verified it was booting and set it down while it booted. Picked it up 5 minutes later and it was off? Thats odd I thought? Then it wouldn't turn on. I plugged it into my car charger and it started to boot, hmmm Set it down for 15 seconds and it was off again!! Now it wouldn't boot on the car charger! shit! Got home, plugged it into the wall charger and it turned on and booted up! WHew!!! Batter icon showed low red level. I charged it for a few hours and it then showed full I have noticed that sometimes when I plug it in the icon doesn't change to the lightning bolt! Stays green. Why is that? Update problem? Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
Marcel MadJo de Jong wrote: Uboot is: (u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+svnr4297+gitb29661fc115106454288051bc9a488351ce8-r3.bin) That's old (even if it was built recently, it used the SVN patchset rather than the OM u-boot.git tree). Try this one: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080730/u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitr6+ba029a1426bfca169572bf80d50a8b190a6b0e19-r0.bin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
I see this every time I plug in to the wall charger. The USB icon will show up for a second or two and then disappear. Unplugging and plugging it back in usually cause the battery icon to change and the USB icon to stay. This is only with the wall charger. Plugging USB into my computer always works the first time. You could submit a bug report. I never bothered. But perhaps it really doesn't charge on the first attempt? -Steven On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed that sometimes when I plug it in the icon doesn't change to the lightning bolt! Stays green. Why is that? Update problem? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed that sometimes when I plug it in the icon doesn't change to the lightning bolt! Stays green. Why is that? Update problem? Scott The Freerunner doesn't always identify a charger as being able to supply 500 mA when this happens it charges at 100mA. At that rate the battery goes dead faster than it charges. There are some solutions that are not recommended by OM http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
Marcel MadJo de Jong wrote: But that could've been because the jffs image was in fact a .jffs2.summary image. I'm not sure what the difference is between .jffs2 and .jffs2.summary. (from another thread) A .jffs2.summary file is just a .jffs2 file with some postprocessing to allow it to be mounted faster. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner not charging?
Russell Sears wrote: You're hitting a bug that has been fixed in the newest kernel release: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1158 So I can get the latest kernel with ASU, FSO, Qtopia, 2007.2??? Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
