Re: Freerunner test
Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | If someone knows what to do to get gps device going and can instruct me, | Qtopia 4.4 has a mapping demo for testing. It has both nmea and gpsd plugins. Here is a standalone shell script to see GPS NMEA that shows what needs to happen. echo 0 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron \ sleep 1s \ echo 1 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron \ stty -F /dev/ttySAC1 -echo \ cat -u /dev/ttySAC1 | grep -v ^$ Thanks for that. I can report that the gta02 device I have, gps is working fine. :) Seems to get a fix faster than gta01. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | If someone knows what to do to get gps device going and can instruct me, | Qtopia 4.4 has a mapping demo for testing. It has both nmea and gpsd plugins. Here is a standalone shell script to see GPS NMEA that shows what needs to happen. echo 0 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron \ sleep 1s \ echo 1 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron \ stty -F /dev/ttySAC1 -echo \ cat -u /dev/ttySAC1 | grep -v ^$ - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhBEBIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMooQQCeL5xSfsRzW9Wu18AyF8tExyBY cpkAnRDsKt4mL3mun3UbnYHQgkoulE2b =yNJk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Mike Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Dean wrote: Unscientific testing, yes. The echo is still there. :) s/)/(/ Can you please add a note about this to bug #1267? How bad was the echo - enough that a normal person would complain about it, or something that would only be noticed if they listened carefully? I've updated that bug. :) I'm getting annoying GSM buzz on the Freerunner when using certain SIM cards (I need to confirm this with more SIM cards). A note about this on bug #883 would also be good. I'd like to reconfirm this before reporting, or at least kill my theory before reporting on it and creating a false lead. It seems that the SIM itself is important. Sitting at my computer desk and switching the card in my 1973 for the one in my Freerunner causes the Freerunner to buzz but doesn't affect the 1973. Now, it's possible there's something else (perhaps my wireless mouse, my speaker system, my monitor) actually causing this, so I'd like to test the same in different environments and buy a 4th SIM card to another control. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
Kevin Dean wrote: I'd like to reconfirm this before reporting, or at least kill my theory before reporting on it and creating a false lead. It seems that the SIM itself is important. Two likely factors affecting GSM buzz are: which band it's using (850 or 1900), and the transmitted signal strength (how far it is from the tower). If you had SIMs from different carriers I could easily see these factors being different. I can't think of a reason that two SIMs from the same carrier would differ, except for randomness in which tower it happened to use. It looks like one of the 'Engineering Mode' AT commands can at least report which band you're on and the base-station ID. There is also a transmit power field listed, but when I tested it a minute ago it was always 0. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 I have a cheap microwave-oven leakage tester from Radio Shack, and I was able to put that next to my Neo to get a relative indication of its transmit strength. I could hear the level of the buzz go down at the same time that the needle on the meter went down. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Kevin Dean wrote: I'd like to reconfirm this before reporting, or at least kill my theory before reporting on it and creating a false lead. It seems that the SIM itself is important. Two likely factors affecting GSM buzz are: which band it's using (850 or 1900), and the transmitted signal strength (how far it is from the tower). If you had SIMs from different carriers I could easily see these factors being different. I can't think of a reason that two SIMs from the same carrier would differ, except for randomness in which tower it happened to use. It looks like one of the 'Engineering Mode' AT commands can at least report which band you're on and the base-station ID. There is also a transmit power field listed, but when I tested it a minute ago it was always 0. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 you read this field during a call when actually transmitting audio (NO silence)? For the rest: ACK /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 you read this field during a call when actually transmitting audio (NO silence)? I called the Neo from my other (non-GSM) phone and listened to that other phone. The Neo was transmitting some audio, although it was only its GSM buzz and an echo of the audio from the other phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Joerg Reisenweber wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 you read this field during a call when actually transmitting audio (NO silence)? I called the Neo from my other (non-GSM) phone and listened to that other phone. The Neo was transmitting some audio, although it was only its GSM buzz and an echo of the audio from the other phone. So transmitter should be !=0 then, I guess. Looks like a bug. Please try to do multiple readings of this value, while making sure there is some real data (voice) to actually transmit. Reading of tx-pwr might be very momentary. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
Yorick Matthys wrote: I don't know how to post on the mailing list (shame on me, I know...) although i read every mail that gets posted on them, so I write it directly to your e-mail address. If you're subscribed to the mailing list, just address messages to community@lists.openmoko.org and everyone will get a copy. could you also give an indication for how long it takes to get a gps fix (cold/warm start) ? Or about the audio quality with a standard headset? I understand completely if you can't be bothered with these questions, if so, please excuse me; it's just I’m so damn anxious to get my hands on a freerunner :-). I haven't done any audio or GPS tests on my Freerunner yet. Have any of the other Freerunner testers done anything in this regard? If not, I'll try some testing this weekend if I can figure out how to get the GPS working. Ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:35 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yorick Matthys wrote: I don't know how to post on the mailing list (shame on me, I know...) although i read every mail that gets posted on them, so I write it directly to your e-mail address. If you're subscribed to the mailing list, just address messages to community@lists.openmoko.org and everyone will get a copy. could you also give an indication for how long it takes to get a gps fix (cold/warm start) ? Or about the audio quality with a standard headset? I understand completely if you can't be bothered with these questions, if so, please excuse me; it's just I'm so damn anxious to get my hands on a freerunner :-). I haven't done any audio or GPS tests on my Freerunner yet. Have any of the other Freerunner testers done anything in this regard? Unscientific testing, yes. The echo is still there. :) I'm getting annoying GSM buzz on the Freerunner when using certain SIM cards (I need to confirm this with more SIM cards). It sounds as if the Freerunner has the capability to be louder but calls seem quieter (though this is configurable). I've done nothing with GPS since the ASU doesn't have a functional GPS app yet but I might poke at it with a 2007.02 image and TangoGPS this weekend. If not, I'll try some testing this weekend if I can figure out how to get the GPS working. Ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
On Saturday 31 May 2008, Kevin Dean wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:35 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yorick Matthys wrote: I don't know how to post on the mailing list (shame on me, I know...) although i read every mail that gets posted on them, so I write it directly to your e-mail address. If you're subscribed to the mailing list, just address messages to community@lists.openmoko.org and everyone will get a copy. could you also give an indication for how long it takes to get a gps fix (cold/warm start) ? Or about the audio quality with a standard headset? I understand completely if you can't be bothered with these questions, if so, please excuse me; it's just I'm so damn anxious to get my hands on a freerunner :-). I haven't done any audio or GPS tests on my Freerunner yet. Have any of the other Freerunner testers done anything in this regard? Unscientific testing, yes. The echo is still there. :) I'm getting annoying GSM buzz on the Freerunner when using certain SIM cards (I need to confirm this with more SIM cards). It sounds as if the Freerunner has the capability to be louder but calls seem quieter (though this is configurable). I've done nothing with GPS since the ASU doesn't have a functional GPS app yet but I might poke at it with a 2007.02 image and TangoGPS this weekend. If not, I'll try some testing this weekend if I can figure out how to get the GPS working. If someone knows what to do to get gps device going and can instruct me, Qtopia 4.4 has a mapping demo for testing. It has both nmea and gpsd plugins. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner test
Kevin Dean wrote: Unscientific testing, yes. The echo is still there. :) s/)/(/ Can you please add a note about this to bug #1267? How bad was the echo - enough that a normal person would complain about it, or something that would only be noticed if they listened carefully? I'm getting annoying GSM buzz on the Freerunner when using certain SIM cards (I need to confirm this with more SIM cards). A note about this on bug #883 would also be good. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
