Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
Its a new problem. However as I said I'd not tried using the freerunner as my primary phone till now. Regards, Jon Tim Erwin wrote: I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting No network as it does with a signal. I am using the qtopia 080808 release and have no problem with the reception. Did you notice this with the previous qtopia or openmoko release? Or is this a new problem? Regards, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
Hi, I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting No network as it does with a signal. Has anylone looked into this? is it the fault with qtopia? or is it a fact the freerunner does GSM about as good as it does GPS? Thoughts? Regards, Jon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting No network as it does with a signal. I am using the qtopia 080808 release and have no problem with the reception. Did you notice this with the previous qtopia or openmoko release? Or is this a new problem? Regards, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
Tim Erwin wrote: I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting No network as it does with a signal. I am using the qtopia 080808 release and have no problem with the reception. Did you notice this with the previous qtopia or openmoko release? Or is this a new problem? Regards, Tim Interestingly, I flashed with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release this morning, from my opkg updated stock image, and also notice my signal is weaker. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
Interestingly, I flashed with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release this morning, from my opkg updated stock image, and also notice my signal is weaker. I am just using the stock image from qtopia, I haven't done any updating. I will do a update and see if I get the same problem. Do you know what packages where updated? Regards, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
Jonathan Spooner wrote: Hi, I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or more to the point qtopia seems to spend as much time reporting No network as it does with a signal. Has anylone looked into this? is it the fault with qtopia? or is it a fact the freerunner does GSM about as good as it does GPS? The modem/driver on the freerunner seems to be buggier than the 1973. The 1973 does not have this problem even running the exact same modem plugins. Holger does seem to be looking into this issue. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
Tim Erwin wrote: Interestingly, I flashed with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release this morning, from my opkg updated stock image, and also notice my signal is weaker. I am just using the stock image from qtopia, I haven't done any updating. I will do a update and see if I get the same problem. Do you know what packages where updated? Regards, Tim What I mean is, I had a stock OM build, that I had updated with opkg. Then I went and flashed it with the two files in the qtopia package this morning, that qtopia had just released. I haven't tried to update it at all after flashing with qtopia. But I notice the reception seems weaker, both in terms of how many bars I see, and how much spottier the coverage is in places where it was fine yesterday. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
There is no standard for what each bar represents. There's no industry defined standard for it. So it's quite possible that two different phone OSes will represent the same signal strength with a different number of bars. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Paul Buede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I mean is, I had a stock OM build, that I had updated with opkg. Then I went and flashed it with the two files in the qtopia package this morning, that qtopia had just released. I haven't tried to update it at all after flashing with qtopia. But I notice the reception seems weaker, both in terms of how many bars I see, and how much spottier the coverage is in places where it was fine yesterday. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
What I mean is, I had a stock OM build, that I had updated with opkg. Then I went and flashed it with the two files in the qtopia package this morning, that qtopia had just released. I haven't tried to update it at all after flashing with qtopia. But I notice the reception seems weaker, both in terms of how many bars I see, and how much spottier the coverage is in places where it was fine yesterday. Oh ok, did you see this in the previous qtopia image? There is no standard for what each bar represents. There's no industry defined standard for it. So it's quite possible that two different phone OSes will represent the same signal strength with a different number of bars. Is there a way to get the signal strength from the api or directly from the gsm? Then we could see if there are any actual differences. Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM
Is there a way to get the signal strength from the api or directly from the gsm? Then we could see if there are any actual differences. In response to my own question, directly talking to the gsm I think we can get the signal strength with AT+CSQ but I have no idea how to do this with the qtopia image as the commands on the wiki are for the openmoko distro Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
