Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
Hey, On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 01:07:40AM +0300, Gennady Kupava wrote: [...] Now, list of bug I noticed so far, hope I can help at least as tester having few time as developer: It's strange how the same image may have different behaviors in the same hardware. I've tried this last SHR version aftering using qt-moko for a long time. Results: - Mokonnect: - USB Network doesn't work. I don't know why my local system sees the device as a broken modem: [79556.010085] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. [79556.010129] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [79562.784086] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 20 - When I try to set up the USB interface I got ethernet device was not found. Also says I should install connman-plugin-ethernet. - Wifi scan doesn't work. When I try to apply any change in the network I get a loop wifi device seems to be off... - Mokomaze: - When opening: stopped running unexpectedly - GPRS: - Using the righ settings I get connection failed Without network or even a chance to connect the device via USB it's hard to give you more details. Anyway, thanks for the work. UI speed has increased a lot, that's really impressive. Regards, -- Tiago Bortoletto Vaz http://tiagovaz.org 0xA504FECA - http://pgp.mit.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
it seems that your problem has something to do with kernel modules... check if you have installed them ;-) d On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.orgwrote: Hey, On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 01:07:40AM +0300, Gennady Kupava wrote: [...] Now, list of bug I noticed so far, hope I can help at least as tester having few time as developer: It's strange how the same image may have different behaviors in the same hardware. I've tried this last SHR version aftering using qt-moko for a long time. Results: - Mokonnect: - USB Network doesn't work. I don't know why my local system sees the device as a broken modem: [79556.010085] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. [79556.010129] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [79562.784086] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 20 - When I try to set up the USB interface I got ethernet device was not found. Also says I should install connman-plugin-ethernet. - Wifi scan doesn't work. When I try to apply any change in the network I get a loop wifi device seems to be off... - Mokomaze: - When opening: stopped running unexpectedly - GPRS: - Using the righ settings I get connection failed Without network or even a chance to connect the device via USB it's hard to give you more details. Anyway, thanks for the work. UI speed has increased a lot, that's really impressive. Regards, -- Tiago Bortoletto Vaz http://tiagovaz.org 0xA504FECA - http://pgp.mit.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
В Чтв, 19/11/2009 в 17:01 +0100, Thomas Zimmermann пишет: -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Betreff: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present Datum: Donnerstag 19 November 2009 Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de An: SHR-devel shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org, SHR-user shr- u...@lists.shr-project.org [Nov 19 2009, The Internets] It's been psychologically proven that the longer you wait for your presents, the more happy you will be when you finally get them. It seems, the SHR team wants to make you REALLY happy and has let you waiting for quite some time without updates to shr-unstable... ENOUGH WAITING. Christmas comes a bit early this year, and a new SHR-unstable image is out for public consumption. In Russia, we have Christmas at 7th of january, this does not mean that God born that day, this means that we've changed our calendars 2,5 centuries later, i hope... Now about shr. I've missed intone in Qtmoko! Want to say that new graphics is really impressive, it's pleasure to look at it, despite of thinking about 640*480*2=2 Mb memory for image ;). New gry theme is really fast and nice, and this thing compensates well impossibility to switch to x11_16 rendering. New volume controls while call are nice thing, contacts look and feel very good. I noticed even backup control in settings! Of course, device is unusable without Thomas kernel patch. With that patch it's really fast like a... like a usual device, except some things like tangogps with large map, and main screen. I didn't notice if someone post prebuild kernel with modules, so here is mine andy-tracking with whole Thomas patch and all debug disabled: http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/. Btw, why kernel debug things are enabled in kernels now for ordinary users in ordinary distributions? Without it feels faster. Can't wait until 2.6.31 will be ready and in distributions! Btw, I checked this with both shr and qtmoko - boost is amazing. Only thing I don't know is how to transfer pint of best beer to location of patches author. So far, I didn't notice any problems with kernel. Now, list of bug I noticed so far, hope I can help at least as tester having few time as developer: First, I've updated it once after initial flash. 0. Scrolling in contacts! It thinks that release of finger is click, really annying. How to fix that? 1. Double touchscreen hit problem. It is needed to tap 2 times to run contacts or messages. 2. Update button in seettings for power consumption is fact don't updates. 3. lockscreen things - correct name of calling person. Easy reset of 'unanswered calls' and 'new messages' - they keep on top even if I've look at them. 4. It's impossible to add contact in easy way - you have to 'add field'. Also, I've got a crash of whole telephony system adding new contact from sms nubber. 5. Battery charge indicator sometimes crying that battery discharged. It fix itself in minute, but annoying a bit. 6. Sometimes, it telephony stops working. In such cases I see speaker volume as 0 while calling and can't hear other party even moving slider. 7. Midori is as always without proper fonts. Big thanks from me as an openmoko user for new things. I am using it for few days and it is real pleasure. ... so, for whoose who followed my mail to this point - i hope all bugs will be fixed and all users of Openmoko will get their one more Christmas presents :) Gennady. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 01:07:40AM +0300, Gennady Kupava wrote: Of course, device is unusable without Thomas kernel patch. With that patch it's really fast like a... like a usual device, except some things like tangogps with large map, and main screen. I didn't notice if someone post prebuild kernel with modules, so here is mine andy-tracking with whole Thomas patch and all debug disabled: http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/. Btw, why kernel debug things are enabled in kernels now for ordinary users in ordinary distributions? Without it feels faster. Can't wait until 2.6.31 will be ready and in distributions! Btw, I checked this with both shr and qtmoko - boost is amazing. Only thing I don't know is how to transfer pint of best beer to location of patches author. So far, I didn't notice any problems with kernel. If whole Thomas patch you mean drm-tracking branch from Thomas White then its built almost daily (sometimes even few times a day :)) here: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/kms/ This kernel is not in shr-unstable by default just because all shr devs get WSOD during resume with this one, but we like it a lot. If you want to try 2.6.31 with all Thomas's patches again http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/2.6.31/ but expect some problems with ie sound/gsm/(W|B)SOD Cheers, -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
В Пнд, 23/11/2009 в 23:22 +0100, Martin Jansa пишет: If whole Thomas patch you mean drm-tracking branch from Thomas White then its built almost daily (sometimes even few times a day :)) here: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/kms/ This kernel is not in shr-unstable by default just because all shr devs get WSOD during resume with this one, but we like it a lot. The whole patch is simple one-liner against andy-tracking, published by Thomas to change some FIFO depth (as far as I understood). Everything still working after that patch, keeping nice boost. Default image was unusable because of speed issues. If you want to try 2.6.31 with all Thomas's patches again http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/2.6.31/ but expect some problems with ie sound/gsm/(W|B)SOD Thanks for links, I'll hope i can try them in spare time, but unfortunately for me, I need gsm/sound and feel no need in any sort of SOD. With QtMoko i've found a solution for death - just always keep it plugged, now trying it with shr. ;) I've just followed Carsten suggestion and tested several kernels with lmbench, I wanted to publish it for interested people with separate letter, but we started with kernel, here is it, anyway I don't know where to proceed: Last time I've tried to measure memory bandwidth on om, n810 and old Celeron 600. Now I've got interesting results with om kernel, but unfortunately didn't get n810 to my grasp to run lmbench where. Most interesting thing is following: *Local* Communication bandwidths in MB/s - bigger is better --- HostOS Pipe AFTCP File Mmap Bcopy Bcopy Mem Mem UNIX reread reread (libc) (hand) read write - - -- -- -- -- - neo Linux 2.6.29- 19.8 18.1 18.9 36.7 108.0 59.1 59.2 108. 187.6 neo_patch Linux 2.6.29- 16.5 16.6 13.1 25.1 74.4 40.7 40.8 74.4 130.7 router2 Linux 2.6.26- 46.4 49.7 33.5 119.8 295.0 78.9 57.2 294. 68.4 yes, faster kernel is in middle :). the difference between two one is kernel, both systems were tested with qtmoko bought down and top showing 0 load except top. interesting that on both kernels to showed different load. As i've got similar results with my copy test (40mb/s), i think that Thomas one-line patch (second kernel) is unrelated. So question is open: in qtmoko, with qpe.sh brought down and no active processes except top in top, which thing slows down whole device from 1/3 to 1/2? time I was unable to run oprofile because of some problems between daemon and kernel, next thing i plan is to investigate this. I attached whole results for whoose who are interested. Btw, I successfully resisted idea to buy N900 in favor of continue using OM after reading this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31346 :) After that, OM is evolving computer for me, n900 is not. Gennady. L M B E N C H 2 . 0 S U M M A R Y Basic system parameters Host OS Description Mhz - - --- neo Linux 2.6.29- armv4tl-linux-gnu 389 neo_patch Linux 2.6.29- armv4tl-linux-gnu 389 router2 Linux 2.6.26- i686-pc-linux-gnu 679 Processor, Processes - times in microseconds - smaller is better Host OS Mhz null null open selct sig sig fork exec sh call I/O stat clos TCP inst hndl proc proc proc - - - neo Linux 2.6.29- 389 0.53 1.52 9.68 15.5 63.2 2.77 6.84 3335 10.K 25.K neo_patch Linux 2.6.29- 389 0.70 3.31 18.6 35.6 89.7 5.77 16.8 4839 15.K 37.K router2 Linux 2.6.26- 679 0.36 0.84 4.39 9.62 18.4 1.44 6.45 1136 3366 9409 Context switching - times in microseconds - smaller is better - Host OS 2p/0K 2p/16K 2p/64K 8p/16K 8p/64K 16p/16K 16p/64K ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw - - - -- -- -- -- --- --- neo Linux 2.6.29- 168.5 367.4 714.1 368.5 731.5 376.5 732.3 neo_patch Linux 2.6.29- 305.4 615.1 881.1 463.2 966.6 497.8 987.3 router2 Linux 2.6.26- 10.8 41.3 186.0 95.2 265.1 107.8 268.1 *Local* Communication latencies in microseconds - smaller is better --- Host OS 2p/0K Pipe AF UDP RPC/ TCP RPC/ TCP ctxsw UNIX UDP TCP conn - - - - - - - -
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 21:32, Russell Dwiggins undrwa...@verizon.net wrote: Some of my observations after use: * screen lock on Power Button now works; but it takes you to a password screen without keyboard * gry theme is not fully selected on fresh flash; some of the elements are still default illume (illume settings | theme stuff). * power settings don't save; change suspend idle screen lock settings, quit, go back and they are reset to default * Changing fonts crashes illume; change fonts in illume settings Look tab will crash illume * illume keyboard seems to be working in landscape now!! :) I'll have to test further, but it looks promising. Questions: I notice that eve (web browser) is in the repo, but it doesn't work: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ eve ERROR: could not load theme from file '/usr/share/eve/data/default.edj', group 'eve.scrollframe': File Does Not Exist ERROR: could not load theme from file '/usr/share/eve/data/default.edj', group 'eve.navigator': File Does Not Exist Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error Number: 2 while loading the group 'webkit/widget/entry'. Error Number: 2 while loading the group 'webkit/widget/button'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.horizontal'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.horizontal'. Is this a work in progress? Thanks for all the work!! :) Russell Dwiggins Try to opkg install eve-themes -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Try to opkg install eve-themes -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I found eve-themes last night. Looks great, but scrolling doesn't seem to work. It's hard to find info on google regarding this browser. Who's working on it? Russell Dwiggins -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fwd-Shr-User-SHR-unstable-got-a-facelift-And-you-a-christmas-present-tp4032658p4043021.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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undrwater wrote: * illume keyboard seems to be working in landscape now!! :) I'll have to test further, but it looks promising. No...still has problems if rotatated while open. Maybe this will get fixed with Samsung's help? ;) Russell Dwiggins -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fwd-Shr-User-SHR-unstable-got-a-facelift-And-you-a-christmas-present-tp4032658p4043046.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
Bad XMas present, bad! :! Sorry, it's quite nice, but mrmoku's image from Friday 13th works better as a phone. Forgive my anger but today I almost missed being interviewed on a major portuguese radio about our horrible CyberCrime law (similar to the german horror)... fortunately I still had mrmoku's image on another µ-sdhc card and quickly replaced it Good news regarding CC law... the Chief Inspector of the investigative police agrees with us (Free Software activists) and wants the law changed, as well as the president of the association of judges :) Rui On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:01:03PM +0100, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Betreff: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present Datum: Donnerstag 19 November 2009 Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de An: SHR-devel shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org, SHR-user shr- u...@lists.shr-project.org [Nov 19 2009, The Internets] It's been psychologically proven that the longer you wait for your presents, the more happy you will be when you finally get them. It seems, the SHR team wants to make you REALLY happy and has let you waiting for quite some time without updates to shr-unstable... ENOUGH WAITING. Christmas comes a bit early this year, and a new SHR-unstable image is out for public consumption. Keep in mind that this is the first snapshot after quite many major transitions, so don't complain if things are a bit ..well... unstable in the beginning. We are working hard to stabilize things. If you depend on your phone, you will probably not yet want to use this, e.g. right now the ringtones aren't working (it just vibrates). We had no resources to provide a nice and working upgrade path, so an opkg upgrade is very likely to lead to a non-working system. (Really! It won't work. We know you'll try anyway :). It still won't work). So download the image (http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable), flash it and start afresh. I am writing this before the new images are out there, so be a bit patient before you can really grab them. We will take a branch off current shr-unstable in a couple of weeks (after the dust has settled a bit) and start a conservative branch that will allow for more -testing releases and -finally- a stable snapshot. If others want to volunteer to do that, I'll happy hand over that job though. So what has changed, and what to expect: * First don't expect any miracles. While stuff has changed under the hood, you are still owning a fine piece of open. but outdated hardware. But a path has been laid for future improvements (also performance wise), so this is the way to go. Also, we have tried to keep the look and feel as similar as possible in the new phone apps. You will feel very much at home there. But improvements are much easier now. * xorg server rather than glamo kdrive. We switched to using a proper xorg-server, with a graphics driver that is actively maintained. There have been some improvements, and developer Weiss thinks that there are more perf improvements to get. * eglibc rather than glibc. Just like Debian did, we switched our libc library from glibc to eglibc which (apparently) is a bit better suited to embedded devices. * While the theme contest is still ongoing, we have decided to install the gry theme by Bernd Pruenster by default, it is faster than the default theme, which is not designed for obsolete embedded hardware. The illume theme is still set to default or Illume SHR, so try stasetting it to *gry* through the top bar wrench (preference settings) * The neo theme is also nice and fast. It is not installed by default, but it is in the feeds. You can easily install in with opkg install shr-theme-neo. Another theme to try out is the niebiee theme which has been designed with speed in mind (opkg install shr-theme-niebiee). * the python-based frameworkd is being replaced bit by bit with components written in Vala. The first components that we use are fsousaged (which replaces ousaged), fsodeviced, and fsonetworkd. Mickey posted a status update (http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2009/11/10/towards-the-end- of-2009/) on the new fso stuff. * phonefsod replaces the ophonekitd phone daemon and and phoneuid/libphoneui are now responsible for all things GUI with the phone apps. * opimd is included and we have the possibility to save incoming and outgoing SMS as well as contacts on the SIM card or on the SD card (using the sqlite backend). New SMS/contacts are now by default saved in a database on the FreeRunner (SD card or NAND), so be careful before reflashing! (Someone should probabably give instructions somewhere on how to change the configuration to use the SIM card as default and how to transfer data from one backend to another.) * We have proceeded with the integration work with openembedded.org and we are very close to
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
And now the bugs: 1) contrary to reported, not even vibration... it's as if it was in silent mode 2) I hear no sound on calls, the other side doesn't hear as well If I could live with 1), I surely can't live with 2) :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:23:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: And now the bugs: 1) contrary to reported, not even vibration... it's as if it was in silent mode 2) I hear no sound on calls, the other side doesn't hear as well If I could live with 1), I surely can't live with 2) :) It seems this is mostly fixed, I'll let you know... Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:09:16AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:23:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: And now the bugs: 1) contrary to reported, not even vibration... it's as if it was in silent mode 2) I hear no sound on calls, the other side doesn't hear as well If I could live with 1), I surely can't live with 2) :) It seems this is mostly fixed, I'll let you know... Spoke too soon. Now there is 2) again. Reverting to mrmoku's friday 13th again. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I installed the new image yesterday afternoon, so far the non-phone functionality is working relatively well. Only 1 red-flag for me on the non-phone stuff: redraws seem noticably slower than my shr-u-sept - with omnewrotate installed and using epdfview to view a document it sometimes took as long as 10 seconds for the view to completely refresh after rotating my FR. I didn't time it on my shr-u-sept install yet, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't that slow... However, the phone functionality seems pretty broken. I do get audio, so it's a little better than Rui is seing, but I get feedback squeeling as soon as I try an outgoing call, and have to drop the microphone gain - and then the person I called said they had trouble hearing me. I'm trying an update/update now - it seems like things are evolving quickly, but so far I'm strongly considering going back to the sept build so I can make phone calls.. Warren On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:09:16AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:23:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: And now the bugs: 1) contrary to reported, not even vibration... it's as if it was in silent mode 2) I hear no sound on calls, the other side doesn't hear as well If I could live with 1), I surely can't live with 2) :) It seems this is mostly fixed, I'll let you know... Spoke too soon. Now there is 2) again. Reverting to mrmoku's friday 13th again. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Do you have audio *after* a few suspend/resumes/calls ? I got audio on the first couple of calls, then nothing more. Rui On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:33:31AM -0500, Warren Baird wrote: I installed the new image yesterday afternoon, so far the non-phone functionality is working relatively well. Only 1 red-flag for me on the non-phone stuff: redraws seem noticably slower than my shr-u-sept - with omnewrotate installed and using epdfview to view a document it sometimes took as long as 10 seconds for the view to completely refresh after rotating my FR. I didn't time it on my shr-u-sept install yet, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't that slow... However, the phone functionality seems pretty broken. I do get audio, so it's a little better than Rui is seing, but I get feedback squeeling as soon as I try an outgoing call, and have to drop the microphone gain - and then the person I called said they had trouble hearing me. I'm trying an update/update now - it seems like things are evolving quickly, but so far I'm strongly considering going back to the sept build so I can make phone calls.. Warren On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:09:16AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:23:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: And now the bugs: 1) contrary to reported, not even vibration... it's as if it was in silent mode 2) I hear no sound on calls, the other side doesn't hear as well If I could live with 1), I surely can't live with 2) :) It seems this is mostly fixed, I'll let you know... Spoke too soon. Now there is 2) again. Reverting to mrmoku's friday 13th again. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
Some of my observations after use: * screen lock on Power Button now works; but it takes you to a password screen without keyboard * gry theme is not fully selected on fresh flash; some of the elements are still default illume (illume settings | theme stuff). * power settings don't save; change suspend idle screen lock settings, quit, go back and they are reset to default * Changing fonts crashes illume; change fonts in illume settings Look tab will crash illume * illume keyboard seems to be working in landscape now!! :) I'll have to test further, but it looks promising. Questions: I notice that eve (web browser) is in the repo, but it doesn't work: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ eve ERROR: could not load theme from file '/usr/share/eve/data/default.edj', group 'eve.scrollframe': File Does Not Exist ERROR: could not load theme from file '/usr/share/eve/data/default.edj', group 'eve.navigator': File Does Not Exist Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error Number: 2 while loading the group 'webkit/widget/entry'. Error Number: 2 while loading the group 'webkit/widget/button'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.horizontal'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #2 while loading the group 'scrollbar.horizontal'. Is this a work in progress? Thanks for all the work!! :) Russell Dwiggins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
well - shortly after my last post suspend stopped working, and I couldn't send or receive calls - trying to dial out failed silently, and incoming calls went directly to my voice mail... Unfortunately I kinda rely on my FR as a cell phone, so I need to be able to make and receive calls - so I've booted back to my shr-u-sept build for now... I guess I'll try the shr-u-nov builds again in a few weeks and see if they are better. Warren On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: Do you have audio *after* a few suspend/resumes/calls ? I got audio on the first couple of calls, then nothing more. Rui On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:33:31AM -0500, Warren Baird wrote: I installed the new image yesterday afternoon, so far the non-phone functionality is working relatively well. Only 1 red-flag for me on the non-phone stuff: redraws seem noticably slower than my shr-u-sept - with omnewrotate installed and using epdfview to view a document it sometimes took as long as 10 seconds for the view to completely refresh after rotating my FR. I didn't time it on my shr-u-sept install yet, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't that slow... However, the phone functionality seems pretty broken. I do get audio, so it's a little better than Rui is seing, but I get feedback squeeling as soon as I try an outgoing call, and have to drop the microphone gain - and then the person I called said they had trouble hearing me. I'm trying an update/update now - it seems like things are evolving quickly, but so far I'm strongly considering going back to the sept build so I can make phone calls.. Warren On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:09:16AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:23:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: And now the bugs: 1) contrary to reported, not even vibration... it's as if it was in silent mode 2) I hear no sound on calls, the other side doesn't hear as well If I could live with 1), I surely can't live with 2) :) It seems this is mostly fixed, I'll let you know... Spoke too soon. Now there is 2) again. Reverting to mrmoku's friday 13th again. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Betreff: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present Datum: Donnerstag 19 November 2009 Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de An: SHR-devel shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org, SHR-user shr- u...@lists.shr-project.org [Nov 19 2009, The Internets] It's been psychologically proven that the longer you wait for your presents, the more happy you will be when you finally get them. It seems, the SHR team wants to make you REALLY happy and has let you waiting for quite some time without updates to shr-unstable... ENOUGH WAITING. Christmas comes a bit early this year, and a new SHR-unstable image is out for public consumption. Keep in mind that this is the first snapshot after quite many major transitions, so don't complain if things are a bit ..well... unstable in the beginning. We are working hard to stabilize things. If you depend on your phone, you will probably not yet want to use this, e.g. right now the ringtones aren't working (it just vibrates). We had no resources to provide a nice and working upgrade path, so an opkg upgrade is very likely to lead to a non-working system. (Really! It won't work. We know you'll try anyway :). It still won't work). So download the image (http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable), flash it and start afresh. I am writing this before the new images are out there, so be a bit patient before you can really grab them. We will take a branch off current shr-unstable in a couple of weeks (after the dust has settled a bit) and start a conservative branch that will allow for more -testing releases and -finally- a stable snapshot. If others want to volunteer to do that, I'll happy hand over that job though. So what has changed, and what to expect: * First don't expect any miracles. While stuff has changed under the hood, you are still owning a fine piece of open. but outdated hardware. But a path has been laid for future improvements (also performance wise), so this is the way to go. Also, we have tried to keep the look and feel as similar as possible in the new phone apps. You will feel very much at home there. But improvements are much easier now. * xorg server rather than glamo kdrive. We switched to using a proper xorg-server, with a graphics driver that is actively maintained. There have been some improvements, and developer Weiss thinks that there are more perf improvements to get. * eglibc rather than glibc. Just like Debian did, we switched our libc library from glibc to eglibc which (apparently) is a bit better suited to embedded devices. * While the theme contest is still ongoing, we have decided to install the gry theme by Bernd Pruenster by default, it is faster than the default theme, which is not designed for obsolete embedded hardware. The illume theme is still set to default or Illume SHR, so try stasetting it to *gry* through the top bar wrench (preference settings) * The neo theme is also nice and fast. It is not installed by default, but it is in the feeds. You can easily install in with opkg install shr-theme-neo. Another theme to try out is the niebiee theme which has been designed with speed in mind (opkg install shr-theme-niebiee). * the python-based frameworkd is being replaced bit by bit with components written in Vala. The first components that we use are fsousaged (which replaces ousaged), fsodeviced, and fsonetworkd. Mickey posted a status update (http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2009/11/10/towards-the-end- of-2009/) on the new fso stuff. * phonefsod replaces the ophonekitd phone daemon and and phoneuid/libphoneui are now responsible for all things GUI with the phone apps. * opimd is included and we have the possibility to save incoming and outgoing SMS as well as contacts on the SIM card or on the SD card (using the sqlite backend). New SMS/contacts are now by default saved in a database on the FreeRunner (SD card or NAND), so be careful before reflashing! (Someone should probabably give instructions somewhere on how to change the configuration to use the SIM card as default and how to transfer data from one backend to another.) * We have proceeded with the integration work with openembedded.org and we are very close to their development branch now, patches will be submitted to really merge SHR with upstream. This also means that we now have updated versions of basically every software component in this image. This migration has unfortunately caused quite some head aches and build problems... * mokonnect was finally able to connect to my WEP WLAN without crashing the kernel :). * We will be providing a possibilitiy to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.31 (including KMS goodness, see http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/s/how-dri-and-drm-work.html) for adventurous users some time after this release. We just had to make a cut somewhere and this did not make it in yet. What is NOT working: * Ringtones are not working yet after the
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
Original discusion is at shr-us...@lists.shr-project.org, it would be best if all users interested in SHR join that list. I will forward important Messages to community@lists.openmoko.org but not everything. -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Betreff: Re: [Shr-Devel] [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present Datum: Donnerstag 19 November 2009 Von: Tom t...@stosb.com An: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de We already fixed a couple of things: * Ringtones are not working yet after the first call (it just vibrates). There is an issue related to the new fsodeviced and how it handles alsa sound profiles. We are investigating this issue. * Phonelog: can't select items from list. * Shr-settings: can't turn wifi on. Opkg upgrade to get the fix for those. -- Tom. - ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
Thomas Zimmermann wrote: * The neo theme is also nice and fast. It is not installed by default, but it is in the feeds. You can easily install in with opkg install shr-theme-neo. I am quite sure that the nEo theme will render the phoneUI apps unusable, but i havent tried it, maybe JaMa can tell. I need to find some time to give the nEo theme a complete overhaul and fix remainign issues (dont hold your breath it will probably happen in 2010 :-P, but when it finally happens you can expect even faster UI) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:30:22PM +0100, Bernd Prünster wrote: Thomas Zimmermann wrote: * The neo theme is also nice and fast. It is not installed by default, but it is in the feeds. You can easily install in with opkg install shr-theme-neo. I am quite sure that the nEo theme will render the phoneUI apps unusable, but i havent tried it, maybe JaMa can tell. I need to find some time to give the nEo theme a complete overhaul and fix remainign issues (dont hold your breath it will probably happen in 2010 :-P, but when it finally happens you can expect even faster UI) Illume neo theme looks great and it fast, but phoneui apps are not using old libframework-efl-theme-neo.. so you will end with ie black text on black background in messages.. -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
