Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-04 Thread Urivan Saaib
Nick, Ah! I understand you view now. I was thinking more on the platform that could anyone deploy their our metadata service (open source) and have a client application that can be customized by the user and select which metadata server to contact. The metadata server that will be contacted by

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread Mathias RĂ¼diger
No excuses left Nick. Seems that you have to write a wefi clone :) Mathias Mikko Rauhala schrieb: ma, 2007-07-02 kello 22:31 +1200, Nick Johnson kirjoitti: NZ has GPRS, but my understanding was that the AGPS requires the network to explicitly support it to get the assist data - that's

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread Nick Johnson
On 7/3/07, Mathias RĂ¼diger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No excuses left Nick. Seems that you have to write a wefi clone :) Looks like it. ;) Actually, I was thinking something more OpenMoko specific - a sort of enhanced PIM that lets you store locations and contacts (and contacts with locations)

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread Nick Johnson
On 7/3/07, Urivan Saaib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, I was thinking of something ala DNS, where the application can discover pieces of metadata associated to real-world items (you name it) categorized in a standard an open way. Users could add/edit/remove their own choices to customize what

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread Urivan Saaib
Nick, I noticed the freebase.com website requires invitation, do you have access to it? Also, the license of the service is free for non-commercial only, do you have any considerations in this topic? How will this affect the adoption of new developments? Also, custom metadata repositories and

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread ewanm89
Um, advanced hide and seek, your getting warmer... hot, hot, colder... On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:40:50 +0100 Urivan Saaib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, I was thinking of something ala DNS, where the application can discover pieces of metadata associated to real-world items (you name it)

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread Niels L. Ellegaard
Nick Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The other idea for a 'killer mobile gps app' that occurred to me is some sort of dynamic-flash-mob system, where you can express interest in various activities, and it'll detect whenever a 'critical mass' of people for a given activity are close enough

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread David Pottage
On Tue, July 3, 2007 2:33 pm, Niels L. Ellegaard wrote: On a related note I think that Slashdot once had a story about a (bluetooth based??) Japanese dating gadget that worked in a similar fashion. They had to buy the gadget, encode their preferences, and then wait for the unexpected buzz of

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread Nick Johnson
On 7/3/07, Urivan Saaib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed the freebase.com website requires invitation, do you have access to it? Also, the license of the service is free for non-commercial only, do you have any considerations in this topic? How will this affect the adoption of new

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-03 Thread Nick Johnson
On 7/4/07, Niels L. Ellegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds like great fun. Do you plan to introduce a central server and use a critical radius of a kilometer, or do you want to use wifi. I guess that wifi requires a fairly large userbase. Is it possible to design a system that worked

GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-02 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ma, 2007-07-02 kello 22:02 +1200, Nick Johnson kirjoitti: I would do it myself, but from what I hear, the AGPS chip in the Neo isn't even going to work on NZ's cellular network. Pity. :/ Umm, the GPS chip and driver don't rely on the cellular network to function. They can work completely

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-02 Thread Nick Johnson
On 7/2/07, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm, the GPS chip and driver don't rely on the cellular network to function. They can work completely stand-alone. You can get a quicker cold fix if the driver can fetch some assist data from the network (what, NZ don't have GPRS?), but this

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-02 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Monday 02 July 2007 12:31:00 Nick Johnson wrote: certainly what everything I've read has indicated. I thought it was also required to get a fix at all - that the AGPS chip offloads some of the harder work onto the network, as that's what a workmate told me - but if he's wrong, I'm glad. ;)

Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)

2007-07-02 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ma, 2007-07-02 kello 22:31 +1200, Nick Johnson kirjoitti: NZ has GPRS, but my understanding was that the AGPS requires the network to explicitly support it to get the assist data - that's certainly what everything I've read has indicated. I thought it was also required to get a fix at all -