Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
Hi, On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried that...leads to shutdown. What is the magic number of seconds that > worked for you? Between 3 - 5 seconds. -- Regards, Torfinn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 08:52:24AM -0500, Alexey Kurochkin wrote: > On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote: > > > You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed? > > Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to > > the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM > > stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely, > > or remove gsmd. > > Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not > knowing that OM dialer really brakes things. That's what http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1827 is for. I don't know what the progress there is, though. Regards, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Alexey Kurochkin < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote: >>> >>> > You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed? >>> > Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to >>> > the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM >>> > stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely, >>> > or remove gsmd. >>> >>> Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not >>> knowing that OM dialer really brakes things. Are there any instructions >>> how to fully remove OM dialer + gsmd or how to fully remove Qtopia to >>> fix it without reflashing? And why gsmd was replaced with qpe in the >>> first place? Is gsmd somehow bad/buggy/obsolete? If it is so, would OM >>> dialer will be ported to talk to qpe? >>> >>> I have removed the OM-dialer, and the phone has been unable to register >> 1-2 hours after rebooting. What is it that I need to check in the logs / >> libraries? Do I need to remove gsmd as well? >> >> The phone had worked infrequently even when both dialers were installed. >> Now it is not. >> > > OK, now I have removed gsmd too: > > opkg remove libgsmd > opkg remove gsmd-plugins > opkg remove gsmd* > > just to avoid use of -force options. Status report in 10, 9, 8...(minutes? > let's dream on) > Sorry for keeping on replying to myself, but STATUS UPDATE: Registered within 5 minutes. Should we call it 'working like a charm?'. I'm not superstitious, but I don't want to jinx it nevertheless! This is stock 2008.8 with Zecke's updates, btw. Thanks all. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Alexey Kurochkin < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote: >> >> > You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed? >> > Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to >> > the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM >> > stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely, >> > or remove gsmd. >> >> Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not >> knowing that OM dialer really brakes things. Are there any instructions >> how to fully remove OM dialer + gsmd or how to fully remove Qtopia to >> fix it without reflashing? And why gsmd was replaced with qpe in the >> first place? Is gsmd somehow bad/buggy/obsolete? If it is so, would OM >> dialer will be ported to talk to qpe? >> >> I have removed the OM-dialer, and the phone has been unable to register > 1-2 hours after rebooting. What is it that I need to check in the logs / > libraries? Do I need to remove gsmd as well? > > The phone had worked infrequently even when both dialers were installed. > Now it is not. > OK, now I have removed gsmd too: opkg remove libgsmd opkg remove gsmd-plugins opkg remove gsmd* just to avoid use of -force options. Status report in 10, 9, 8...(minutes? let's dream on) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Alexey Kurochkin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote: > > > You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed? > > Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to > > the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM > > stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely, > > or remove gsmd. > > Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not > knowing that OM dialer really brakes things. Are there any instructions > how to fully remove OM dialer + gsmd or how to fully remove Qtopia to > fix it without reflashing? And why gsmd was replaced with qpe in the > first place? Is gsmd somehow bad/buggy/obsolete? If it is so, would OM > dialer will be ported to talk to qpe? > > I have removed the OM-dialer, and the phone has been unable to register 1-2 hours after rebooting. What is it that I need to check in the logs / libraries? Do I need to remove gsmd as well? The phone had worked infrequently even when both dialers were installed. Now it is not. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 13:19 +0200, Thomas B. wrote: > You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed? > Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to > the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM > stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely, > or remove gsmd. Both dialers are in repos and I bet a lot of folks will install them not knowing that OM dialer really brakes things. Are there any instructions how to fully remove OM dialer + gsmd or how to fully remove Qtopia to fix it without reflashing? And why gsmd was replaced with qpe in the first place? Is gsmd somehow bad/buggy/obsolete? If it is so, would OM dialer will be ported to talk to qpe? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Thomas B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:28:55PM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > What happens if you try to suspend the FR after it has rebooted? > > > When I wake up my FR after suspend it registers very quickly to the > > > network. > > > YMMV. > > > > > > > Suspend? If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the > > Configuration > Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all. I had > once > > been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I > am > > no longer sure how that magic worked. > > > > By the way, now the OM-dialer also works, but it seems to have a clash > with > > the QT dialer and either one does not respond whenever there is a call. > Is > > there a way to specify the default dialer? Moot question, probably, > because > > somebody pointed out just now how I could import all contacts at once in > the > > QT contacts and remove the OM-dialer. > > You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed? > Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to > the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM > stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely, > or remove gsmd. > > Was about to remove the OM dialer. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:28:55PM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What happens if you try to suspend the FR after it has rebooted? > > When I wake up my FR after suspend it registers very quickly to the > > network. > > YMMV. > > > > Suspend? If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the > Configuration > Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all. I had once > been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I am > no longer sure how that magic worked. > > By the way, now the OM-dialer also works, but it seems to have a clash with > the QT dialer and either one does not respond whenever there is a call. Is > there a way to specify the default dialer? Moot question, probably, because > somebody pointed out just now how I could import all contacts at once in the > QT contacts and remove the OM-dialer. You have both the dialer from OM2007.2 and the Qtopia dialer installed? Then that's probably why it takes so long for your phone to register to the network: OM-dialer depends on gsmd, but Qtopia has its own GSM stack, and the two are conflicting. So either remove Qtopia completely, or remove gsmd. Regards, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Suspend? If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the > > Configuration > Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all. I had > once > > been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I > am > > no longer sure how that magic worked. > > Strange - it works here. I have to press the power button for a few > seconds, which is a bit unnerving as I am worried that I will reboot > the phone. > But it works every time. > I tried that...leads to shutdown. What is the magic number of seconds that worked for you? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
Hello, On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suspend? If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the > Configuration > Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all. I had once > been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I am > no longer sure how that magic worked. Strange - it works here. I have to press the power button for a few seconds, which is a bit unnerving as I am worried that I will reboot the phone. But it works every time. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What happens if you try to suspend the FR after it has rebooted? > When I wake up my FR after suspend it registers very quickly to the > network. > YMMV. > Suspend? If I activate both the 'blank' and 'suspend' options under the Configuration > Power menu, the phone does not wake up at all. I had once been able to get it suspended and wake it up with the power button, but I am no longer sure how that magic worked. By the way, now the OM-dialer also works, but it seems to have a clash with the QT dialer and either one does not respond whenever there is a call. Is there a way to specify the default dialer? Moot question, probably, because somebody pointed out just now how I could import all contacts at once in the QT contacts and remove the OM-dialer. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
Hi, On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi list, > > I have tried the zecke-testing branch updates, and now my FR does get > registered, and I can send and receive calls and messages. However, once > rebooted, the FR takes at least 15-20 minutes, probably longer to get > registered to the network. What happens if you try to suspend the FR after it has rebooted? When I wake up my FR after suspend it registers very quickly to the network. YMMV. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 07:39:01PM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > Hi list, > > I have tried the zecke-testing branch updates, and now my FR does get > registered, and I can send and receive calls and messages. However, once > rebooted, the FR takes at least 15-20 minutes, probably longer to get > registered to the network. > > Can anybody tell me if this is still an outstanding issue, or should it be > solved? How? Did you try installing raster's image [1] than updating from zecke-testing? To me it's just a tad less stable than framebuffer qtopia, but way more exciting :) [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Rui -- Or not. Today is Boomtime, the 18th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM registration still takes time - OM2008.08 with Zecke-testing
Hi list, I have tried the zecke-testing branch updates, and now my FR does get registered, and I can send and receive calls and messages. However, once rebooted, the FR takes at least 15-20 minutes, probably longer to get registered to the network. Can anybody tell me if this is still an outstanding issue, or should it be solved? How? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
