Re: G3. Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread NeilBrown
On Mon, June 16, 2008 5:14 am, Stroller wrote: > > I'm not sure what the big deal is with 3G. > > My misconception was that GSM was only "dial-up speed", but someone > recently posted here stating otherwise. Someone debated with him over > his terming GSM as having "ADSL speed", but if it's 2 or 3

Re: G3. Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jun 2008, at 05:54, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > ... > Or maybe I am just ignorant. Can you do sending > and receiving email and so on with GSM, or is that 3G only? GSM is fine for this. > ... > I'd really rather buy a Freerunner, but at the moment I'm not sure > what > to do. I currently h

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread arne anka
> use webmail. Since we're saying 'low-speed IP' does that mean SSH would > be possible? depends on your use of ssh -- tunneling X will probably be a bad idea (maybe vnc or so is an alternative?), but everything that works on the commandline should be reasonable fast. > Would providers tend t

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi. On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 18:55 +1000, NeilBrown wrote: > On Sun, June 15, 2008 2:54 pm, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > >I'd like > > to replace them both by one thing, and I want that one thing to be Linux > > based and open source. At th

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2008-06-15 14:54:27 +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > I want it to be useful for a long time. 3G seems to me ignorant mind > to fit that bill better than GSM. (They've just switched off CDMA here > in Aussie; I don't know anything for certain, but assume that it won't > be too many years before G

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread NeilBrown
On Sun, June 15, 2008 2:54 pm, Nigel Cunningham wrote: >I'd like > to replace them both by one thing, and I want that one thing to be Linux > based and open source. At the same time, though, I want it to be useful > for a long time. 3G

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 14:54 +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > Can you do sending and receiving email and so on with GSM, or is that 3G only? Of course. It's only slower over GSM (GPRS). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Nigel Cunningham: > GSM goes the same way). Or maybe I am just ignorant. Can you do sending > and receiving email and so on with GSM, or is that 3G only? Maybe the most simple answer: iPhone(1) has NO 3G. (though I usually hate to compare to this product). /j signat

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-14 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi Robert. On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 18:41 -0700, Robert Taylor wrote: > Nigel Cunningham wrote: > > That's too bad. I was going to buy GTA02, but decided not to because it > > lacks 3G. If GTA03 is going to lack it too, I guess I'd better look > > elsewhere for something / re-evaluate how long I want

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-14 Thread Robert Taylor
Nigel Cunningham wrote: > That's too bad. I was going to buy GTA02, but decided not to because it > lacks 3G. If GTA03 is going to lack it too, I guess I'd better look > elsewhere for something / re-evaluate how long I want to wait before > combining my organiser and phone into one. > > Nigel > > >

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-13 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi. On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 01:16 +0200, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: > On 6/12/08, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > And I want it half the size:) > > > A tiny, nice phone with QVGA, no

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-13 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 6/12/08, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And I want it half the size:) > > A tiny, nice phone with QVGA, not a notebook. If you want the double size, > > why not just buy an eeepc? > > As the r

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen! Plug in modules

2008-06-12 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 18:02 +0200, Ortwin Regel wrote: > If the GTA03 get's a new case design, please consider making the > screen twice as big! I would like a screen maybe 10mm to 20mm or so larger, but any bigger than that makes it too wide for a phone. > Also, I suggest concentrating more on th

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I want it half the size:) > A tiny, nice phone with QVGA, not a notebook. If you want the double size, > why not just buy an eeepc? As the resident Devil's Advocate, I agree here. Lemme state this - I pa

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-11 Thread Peter Kraker
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Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-11 Thread Ilja O.
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Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-11 Thread Tomi N/A
2008/6/10 Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ortwin Regel wrote: >> There has been all this fruitless talk about resolution. Well, what is >> really limiting the Neo's screen right now is not resolution >> (obviously), not speed (at least not on the GTA01, no idea how messed >> up the 02 situatio

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been all this fruitless talk about resolution. Well, what is > really limiting the Neo's screen right now is not resolution > (obviously), not speed (at least not on the GTA01, no idea how messed > up the 02 situat

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Mohamed Hazem
I couldn't agree more. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been all this fruitless talk about resolution. Well, what is > really limiting the Neo's screen right now is not resolution > (obviously), not speed (at least not on the GTA01, no idea how m

Re: GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Ortwin Regel
I wonder: Might it be useful/possible to add a connector for Bug modules to a future Openmoko phone? On 6/10/08, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roland Häder wrote: >> My suggestion here is that OpenMoko may design another phone - if the >> market >> asks for this: >> >> - An OpenMoko f

Re: GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Roland Häder
Ah, thanks for making it clear. :) On Tuesday, 10. June 2008, Ortwin Regel wrote: > For the record: I was talking about the gaming controls of my Tapwave > Zodiac. I realize that this was probably not all that clear from the > context and apologize. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 6/10/08, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ortwin Regel wrote: > > There has been all this fruitless talk about resolution. Well, what is > > really limiting the Neo's screen right now is not resolution > > (obviously), not speed (at least not on the GTA01, no idea how messed > > up the

Re: GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Robert Taylor
Roland Häder wrote: > My suggestion here is that OpenMoko may design another phone - if the market > asks for this: > > - An OpenMoko for younger people who need the gaming controls Ortwin is > mentioning as subject for removal. > > - Another OpenMoko for professionals/business/older people witho

Re: GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread JW
On 10/06/2008, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think branching into multiple devices starts making sense with the > switch to a new SoC Trouble enough to produce one model :-) . As it is, it looks like GTA03 is supposed to be > the Neo camera edition. Nope Read mails el

Re: GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Ortwin Regel
For the record: I was talking about the gaming controls of my Tapwave Zodiac. I realize that this was probably not all that clear from the context and apologize. I think branching into multiple devices starts making sense with the switch to a new SoC. As it is, it looks like GTA03 is supposed to b

GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Roland Häder
My suggestion here is that OpenMoko may design another phone - if the market asks for this: - An OpenMoko for younger people who need the gaming controls Ortwin is mentioning as subject for removal. - Another OpenMoko for professionals/business/older people without the gameing controls but big

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Robert Taylor
Ortwin Regel wrote: > There has been all this fruitless talk about resolution. Well, what is > really limiting the Neo's screen right now is not resolution > (obviously), not speed (at least not on the GTA01, no idea how messed > up the 02 situation is. I'd guess it's faster most of the time.) but

GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-10 Thread Ortwin Regel
There has been all this fruitless talk about resolution. Well, what is really limiting the Neo's screen right now is not resolution (obviously), not speed (at least not on the GTA01, no idea how messed up the 02 situation is. I'd guess it's faster most of the time.) but size! If the GTA03 get's a n