Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-22 Thread Ben Wong
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline > > Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste > time on the kernel instead of working

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 19:22:00 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > > > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > > > > > How has

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 19:22:00 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > > > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > > > > > How has

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > > > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > > > How has that been determined? > > Please find the answer an

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > How has that been determined? Please find the answer and tell us about the results. ___ Openmo

Re: (was: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 11:43:08 David Matthews wrote: > Yes it is, and those who do not believe so should allow those of us that do > value it to enjoy it in peace :-0 - I at least do not need to be told > repeatedly how foolish I am for delighting over something someone else > believes has zero w

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:54:23 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > the kernel controls the power drain. > > How has that been determined? Your initial rant sounded much similar to the plot: blame the architect for not working on the electrics

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:54:23 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > the kernel controls the power drain. > > How has that been determined? Roughly same way as Pi -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been determined? -- Bob Ham for (;;) { ++pancakes; } signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Ope

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:03 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline > > Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste > time on the kernel instead of working on th

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:03:47 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline > > Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste > time on the kernel instead of working

GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste time on the kernel instead of working on the problems that prevent the board being used? Why a