Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-22 Thread Ben Wong
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste time on the kernel instead

GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste time on the kernel instead of working on the problems that prevent the board being used? Why

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:03:47 Bob Ham wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste time on the kernel instead of working on

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:03 schrieb Bob Ham: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste time on the kernel instead of working on the

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been determined? -- Bob Ham r...@settrans.net for (;;) { ++pancakes; } signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:54:23 Bob Ham wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been determined? Roughly same way as Pi -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:54:23 Bob Ham wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been determined? Your initial rant sounded much similar to the plot: blame the architect for not working on the electrics of

Re: void (was: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 11:43:08 David Matthews wrote: Yes it is, and those who do not believe so should allow those of us that do value it to enjoy it in peace :-0 - I at least do not need to be told repeatedly how foolish I am for delighting over something someone else believes has zero

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been determined? Please find the answer and tell us about the results. ___ Openmoko

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been determined? Please find the answer and tell us

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 19:22:00 Bob Ham wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 19:22:00 Bob Ham wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been