Re: GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-24 Thread Bob Ham
On 2014-01-24 07:45, msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: he wanted to use GTA02 motherboards as wall decorations or somesuch - now THAT kind of waste should be criminally punishable! I find this a curious statement. I'm not sure how you can claim your own micronation and yet argue that others

Re: GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-23 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: There are tradeoffs everywhere. I think that having a 100% free firmware for the cell-phone part is really great. Having an up to date smartphone that runs Free Software is also great. Hypothetically speaking, if someone would like to have a

Re: GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
Upgrade? Surely you must have meant downgrade - why would anyone in There are tradeoffs everywhere. I think that having a 100% free firmware for the cell-phone part is really great. Having an up to date smartphone that runs Free Software is also great. I see no reason why one project should

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-18 Thread arne anka
i honestly don't get why this flares up again. the topic has been beaten to death, everybody knows where he stands on the question -- and yet whenever that bird crows again, there are always some to crow back. why can't you just let him alone? he'll get bored soon enough if nobody plays.

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-17 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I have added back your original statement because otherwise this discussion is not completely understandable: So please think again if you want to upgrade your GTA02 with a GTA04A5 board. Upgrade? Surely you must have meant downgrade - why would anyone in his or her right mind voluntarily

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-17 Thread Nick
Quoth Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 16.01.2014 um 21:31 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Why do you assume that your (IMHO unlawful) procedure done to free the Calypso is not possible for a Qualcomm modem? Because all modern baseband

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-17 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Not everybody is weighting the factor of freeable down to the modem equally when calculating the relative position of two devices to decide between upgrade and downgrade. You have a different weighting than me. If freedom is not important to

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-17 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 17.01.2014 um 19:13 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Not everybody is weighting the factor of freeable down to the modem equally when calculating the relative position of two devices to decide between upgrade and downgrade. You have a

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-17 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 17 January 2014 19:13:24 Michael Spacefalcon wrote: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Not everybody is weighting the factor of freeable down to the modem equally when calculating the relative position of two devices to decide between upgrade and downgrade. You have a

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-17 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: Please can you save me from reading those walls of text filled with [...] Thinking about it more, I realize that my initial post in this thread was more inflammatory than necessary. So I do apologize for posting that on an emotional impulse without

[Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, it is time to take a look onto the GTA04A5 campaign. We have currently collected pledges for 19 units. This is good, but not enough to start a new production run to reach a fairly reasonable final price for those preorders. The calculation is simple. The setup cost of a new production run

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-16 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: So please think again if you want to upgrade your GTA02 with a GTA04A5 board. Upgrade? Surely you must have meant downgrade - why would anyone in his or her right mind voluntarily give up a device that is 100% freeable down to the modem

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 16.01.2014 um 17:55 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: So please think again if you want to upgrade your GTA02 with a GTA04A5 board. Upgrade? Surely you must have meant downgrade - why would anyone in his or her right mind voluntarily give

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

2014-01-16 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Why do you assume that your (IMHO unlawful) procedure done to free the Calypso is not possible for a Qualcomm modem? Because all modern baseband processors (MTK, Qualcomm etc) have ROM bootloaders which perform cryptographic verification of