Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
I've bought a Think Outside (also known as iGo?) bluetooth keyboard like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823203005R They are a bit cheaper on ebay, but anyway, it will be a good way to have an external controller (as well as a full keyboard for programming!) Also, I just finished heading up a project with several of my classmates at www.libwiiact.org that interfaces with the wiimote (actually to implement head tracking) and runs on linux...I'd be interested in working on some games combining the wiimote and OM. -Dan Staley On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 09:56 -0400, Mo Abrahams wrote: > Maybe someone could make a nice gamepad accessory that just snaps onto > the bottom of the phone? With regards to the wiimote, or any other > controller for that matter, I can't visualise someone holding the screen > (phone) in one hand, and the controller in the other. > > On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 14:45 +0100, Ivo Anjo wrote: > > I myself was planning on (ab)using the usb host feature to connect a > > real gamepad to the openmoko. > > No more problems with lack of keys to use on the game :) > > > > Ivo > > > > P.s.: Also, we have bluetooth, so ps3 remote and wiimote should also be > > usable. > > > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Alexander Frøyseth > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > :D > > > How are the controlls? > > > This is a big plus :D > > > Robert Schuster skrev: > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > Alexander Frøyseth schrieb: > > > > > > > > > Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe? > > > If that will go, I will be a very happy man :D > > > > > > > > > Works. I have put 0.6.0 into OE lately. > > > > > > Regards > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
Maybe someone could make a nice gamepad accessory that just snaps onto the bottom of the phone? With regards to the wiimote, or any other controller for that matter, I can't visualise someone holding the screen (phone) in one hand, and the controller in the other. On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 14:45 +0100, Ivo Anjo wrote: > I myself was planning on (ab)using the usb host feature to connect a > real gamepad to the openmoko. > No more problems with lack of keys to use on the game :) > > Ivo > > P.s.: Also, we have bluetooth, so ps3 remote and wiimote should also be > usable. > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Alexander Frøyseth > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > :D > > How are the controlls? > > This is a big plus :D > > Robert Schuster skrev: > > > > Hi. > > > > Alexander Frøyseth schrieb: > > > > > > Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe? > > If that will go, I will be a very happy man :D > > > > > > Works. I have put 0.6.0 into OE lately. > > > > Regards > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
I myself was planning on (ab)using the usb host feature to connect a real gamepad to the openmoko. No more problems with lack of keys to use on the game :) Ivo P.s.: Also, we have bluetooth, so ps3 remote and wiimote should also be usable. On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Alexander Frøyseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > :D > How are the controlls? > This is a big plus :D > Robert Schuster skrev: > > Hi. > > Alexander Frøyseth schrieb: > > > Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe? > If that will go, I will be a very happy man :D > > > Works. I have put 0.6.0 into OE lately. > > Regards > Robert > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
:D How are the controlls? This is a big plus :D Robert Schuster skrev: Hi. Alexander Frøyseth schrieb: Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe? If that will go, I will be a very happy man :D Works. I have put 0.6.0 into OE lately. Regards Robert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
la, 2008-05-10 kello 11:06 +0200, Tomas Gustavsson kirjoitti: > I do not know if this is true but I read somewhere that dosemu wins over > dosbox in performance any day. Does anyone knows if this is true? It is true. The reason it is true is that dosemu runs the program code natively on the host processor, whereas dosbox does emulation. On an ARM cpu, the former approach is unlikely to work. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> Transhumanist - WTA member - http://www.transhumanism.org/> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - http://www.singinst.org/> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Svara till: List for Openmoko community discussion Till: List for Openmoko community discussion Ämne: Re: Gaming on Openmoko? Datum: Sat, 10 May 2008 09:55:02 +0100 p I do not know if this is true but I read somewhere that dosemu wins over dosbox in performance any day. Does anyone knows if this is true? Because, if it's that way then we should really ditch dosbox and focus on dosemu for our nostalgia ;). /tomplast ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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You are right, I was joking... doesn't mean I'm not disappointed though! Sounds like you are doing amazing work though, keep it up =D On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 08:59 +0200, Robert Schuster wrote: > Hi, > > Mo Abrahams schrieb: > > I like the idea of dosbox... any chance of dungeon keeper? Or is that > > being a bit too optimistic? > You're joking. :) > > http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=5 > > I added latest dosbox to OE lately and tested it on the Neo and the > N800. On the much more advanced N800 hardware Dune2 was barely playable > (4-5 frameskip, no sound). Ask again in 5 years. ;) > > Regards > Robert > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Mo Abrahams schrieb: > I like the idea of dosbox... any chance of dungeon keeper? Or is that > being a bit too optimistic? You're joking. :) http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=5 I added latest dosbox to OE lately and tested it on the Neo and the N800. On the much more advanced N800 hardware Dune2 was barely playable (4-5 frameskip, no sound). Ask again in 5 years. ;) Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi. Alexander Frøyseth schrieb: > Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe? > If that will go, I will be a very happy man :D Works. I have put 0.6.0 into OE lately. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi. David Samblas Martinez schrieb: > There are some good java games for movile phone out there than can be > executed with jlimo. s/jlimo/jalimo/ I suppose. :) I am currently in the process of bringing MIDPath 0.3 into OE. So you will soon have it in OM, too. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
Hi, ramsesoriginal schrieb: > I just watched > http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, > and asked myself what sorts of games are tested/planned/running on the > freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? kobodeluxe! :D There are tons of good games in your average GNU/Linux distro. Just do a little porting work and add them to OE. Someone fumbled with wesnoth lately... Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe? If that will go, I will be a very happy man :D ramsesoriginal skrev: I just watched http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, and asked myself what sorts of games are tested/planned/running on the freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 1:36 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem that I see with a virtual keypad (besides the lack of tactile > feedback) is that the screen can only handle one button press at a time. > Most games require at least a d-pad and action button to be accessible at > the same time in order to be playable. Pacman doesn't though :-D. > see above, accelerometers.. :D > Perhaps something workable can be thought up, though. Personally, I thought > it might be fun to use the bluetooth connection to talk to a Nintendo Wii > controller, but those are as big as the Neo... > That would be a cool idea! > Matt > > > > There are some good java games for movile phone out there than can be > executed with jlimo. I was able to run some games in the dosbox in jlime so > I supuse that a lot of oldies pc games can be runned in neo too. > > About the key thing, despite we loose part of the screen, I supose it can > be relatively easy to implement an alternative keyboard as the included one > but only with 8 directional keypad (this keypad willbe an 8 "swiched" one > but can evolve to analogic) and two buttons A B as fire ,jump etc... > > Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > We don't have drivers for the 3D hardware, so I am afraid games like > that are a little out of the question... although I think that would > need something more powerful than what we have anyway wouldn't it? > > Would be very happy to see somebody get 3D working though =) > It could be fun to see how app developers would exploit it, let alone > having 3D games... I was about to say someone should port some gameboy > emulator or something, since we do have 2D, but then the button thing > hit me =P > > On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 00:04 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: >> I just watched >> http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, >> and asked myself what sorts of games are tested/planned/running on the >> freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! > La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Need an implementation of multi-touch for that to work, else one would > have to stop running etc. to jump (I was using super mario bros as an > example there). 8-direction stick could be implemented using accelerometers... > I like the idea of dosbox... any chance of dungeon keeper? Or is that > being a bit too optimistic? > > On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 01:05 +0200, David Samblas Martinez wrote: >> There are some good java games for movile phone out there than can >> be executed with jlimo. I was able to run some games in the dosbox in >> jlime so I supuse that a lot of oldies pc games can be runned in neo >> too. >> >> About the key thing, despite we loose part of the screen, I supose it >> can be relatively easy to implement an alternative keyboard as the >> included one but only with 8 directional keypad (this keypad willbe an >> 8 "swiched" one but can evolve to analogic) and two buttons A B as >> fire ,jump etc... >> >> Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >> We don't have drivers for the 3D hardware, so I am afraid >> games like >> that are a little out of the question... although I think that >> would >> need something more powerful than what we have anyway wouldn't >> it? >> >> Would be very happy to see somebody get 3D working though =) >> It could be fun to see how app developers would exploit it, >> let alone >> having 3D games... I was about to say someone should port some >> gameboy >> emulator or something, since we do have 2D, but then the >> button thing >> hit me =P >> >> On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 00:04 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: >> > I just watched >> >> http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, >> > and asked myself what sorts of games are >> tested/planned/running on the >> > freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? >> > >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> >> >> __ >> >> Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! >> La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 1:05 AM, David Samblas Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are some good java games for movile phone out there than can be > executed with jlimo. I was able to run some games in the dosbox in jlime so > I supuse that a lot of oldies pc games can be runned in neo too. > Prince of Persia anyone? or Asteroids? > About the key thing, despite we loose part of the screen, I supose it can > be relatively easy to implement an alternative keyboard as the included one > but only with 8 directional keypad (this keypad willbe an 8 "swiched" one > but can evolve to analogic) and two buttons A B as fire ,jump etc... > Shure thing! Probably even PSX emulation should be possible.. > Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > We don't have drivers for the 3D hardware, so I am afraid games like > that are a little out of the question... Butwe will, some day... > although I think that would > need something more powerful than what we have anyway wouldn't it? According to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IPhone there shouldn't be much difference.. > > Would be very happy to see somebody get 3D working though =) > It could be fun to see how app developers would exploit it, let alone > having 3D games... Some sort of "Cube" on the phone..hmm > I was about to say someone should port some gameboy > emulator or something, since we do have 2D, but then the button thing > hit me =P > > On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 00:04 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: >> I just watched >> http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, >> and asked myself what sorts of games are tested/planned/running on the >> freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! > La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > BTW, i was just thinking: Cross-Compiling from/for Gp2X.. should be possible, or not? -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
The problem that I see with a virtual keypad (besides the lack of tactile feedback) is that the screen can only handle one button press at a time. Most games require at least a d-pad and action button to be accessible at the same time in order to be playable. Pacman doesn't though :-D. Perhaps something workable can be thought up, though. Personally, I thought it might be fun to use the bluetooth connection to talk to a Nintendo Wii controller, but those are as big as the Neo... Matt There are some good java games for movile phone out there than can be executed with jlimo. I was able to run some games in the dosbox in jlime so I supuse that a lot of oldies pc games can be runned in neo too. About the key thing, despite we loose part of the screen, I supose it can be relatively easy to implement an alternative keyboard as the included one but only with 8 directional keypad (this keypad willbe an 8 "swiched" one but can evolve to analogic) and two buttons A B as fire ,jump etc... Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: We don't have drivers for the 3D hardware, so I am afraid games like that are a little out of the question... although I think that would need something more powerful than what we have anyway wouldn't it? Would be very happy to see somebody get 3D working though =) It could be fun to see how app developers would exploit it, let alone having 3D games... I was about to say someone should port some gameboy emulator or something, since we do have 2D, but then the button thing hit me =P On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 00:04 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: > I just watched > http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, > and asked myself what sorts of games are tested/planned/running on the > freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente.___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
Need an implementation of multi-touch for that to work, else one would have to stop running etc. to jump (I was using super mario bros as an example there). I like the idea of dosbox... any chance of dungeon keeper? Or is that being a bit too optimistic? On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 01:05 +0200, David Samblas Martinez wrote: > There are some good java games for movile phone out there than can > be executed with jlimo. I was able to run some games in the dosbox in > jlime so I supuse that a lot of oldies pc games can be runned in neo > too. > > About the key thing, despite we loose part of the screen, I supose it > can be relatively easy to implement an alternative keyboard as the > included one but only with 8 directional keypad (this keypad willbe an > 8 "swiched" one but can evolve to analogic) and two buttons A B as > fire ,jump etc... > > Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > We don't have drivers for the 3D hardware, so I am afraid > games like > that are a little out of the question... although I think that > would > need something more powerful than what we have anyway wouldn't > it? > > Would be very happy to see somebody get 3D working though =) > It could be fun to see how app developers would exploit it, > let alone > having 3D games... I was about to say someone should port some > gameboy > emulator or something, since we do have 2D, but then the > button thing > hit me =P > > On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 00:04 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: > > I just watched > > http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, > > and asked myself what sorts of games are > tested/planned/running on the > > freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > __ > > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! > La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
There are some good java games for movile phone out there than can be executed with jlimo. I was able to run some games in the dosbox in jlime so I supuse that a lot of oldies pc games can be runned in neo too. About the key thing, despite we loose part of the screen, I supose it can be relatively easy to implement an alternative keyboard as the included one but only with 8 directional keypad (this keypad willbe an 8 "swiched" one but can evolve to analogic) and two buttons A B as fire ,jump etc... Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: We don't have drivers for the 3D hardware, so I am afraid games like that are a little out of the question... although I think that would need something more powerful than what we have anyway wouldn't it? Would be very happy to see somebody get 3D working though =) It could be fun to see how app developers would exploit it, let alone having 3D games... I was about to say someone should port some gameboy emulator or something, since we do have 2D, but then the button thing hit me =P On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 00:04 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: > I just watched > http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, > and asked myself what sorts of games are tested/planned/running on the > freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gaming on Openmoko?
We don't have drivers for the 3D hardware, so I am afraid games like that are a little out of the question... although I think that would need something more powerful than what we have anyway wouldn't it? Would be very happy to see somebody get 3D working though =) It could be fun to see how app developers would exploit it, let alone having 3D games... I was about to say someone should port some gameboy emulator or something, since we do have 2D, but then the button thing hit me =P On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 00:04 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: > I just watched > http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, > and asked myself what sorts of games are tested/planned/running on the > freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Gaming on Openmoko?
I just watched http://gizmodo.com/388688/raging-thunder-iphone-racing-game-shows-tons-of-potential, and asked myself what sorts of games are tested/planned/running on the freerunner: For example, is planet Penguin Racer Working? -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
