Re: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[Jeremy G]

Best of luck to Harald with his future projects.  I hope that he
continues developing for OpenMoko, even if it isn't in a paid
position.

J.

On Nov 16, 2007 1:02 PM, Marc Verwerft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 16, 2007 6:56 PM, AVee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 16 November 2007 14:20, Javi Roman wrote:
> > > On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >  Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand
> > > > move like this. Best regards for Harald.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
> > > >
> > > >  Best regards.
> > >
> > > "...internal friction"
> > >
> > > weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?
> >
> > How about everything which goes on in every company which grows fast and is
> > under a lot of pressure to release a product? Everybody who has been there
> > knows it's stressfull, hectic and yes it is really demotivating, largely
> > because you keep spending time on stuff you don't want to do and as a result
> > it is really hard to get the stuff you want to do done. All of this is
> > doubled when you have a parent company, doubled again when there is a lot of
> > publicity around it and doubled once more when you are one of the more well
> > known members of the team.
> > Coping with that for 18 months is an achievement of its own kind, I can't
> > blame anybody for not keeping it up endlessly.
> >
> > Harold, thanks for everything you did to make an really open phone a 
> > reality.
> >
> > AVee
> >
> >
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> Can' t agree more.
>
> Best of luck to you Harald. And the same for the OpenMoko team and project!
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc
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Re: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[Marc Verwerft]

On Nov 16, 2007 6:56 PM, AVee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 16 November 2007 14:20, Javi Roman wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand
> > > move like this. Best regards for Harald.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
> > >
> > >  Best regards.
> >
> > "...internal friction"
> >
> > weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?
>
> How about everything which goes on in every company which grows fast and is
> under a lot of pressure to release a product? Everybody who has been there
> knows it's stressfull, hectic and yes it is really demotivating, largely
> because you keep spending time on stuff you don't want to do and as a result
> it is really hard to get the stuff you want to do done. All of this is
> doubled when you have a parent company, doubled again when there is a lot of
> publicity around it and doubled once more when you are one of the more well
> known members of the team.
> Coping with that for 18 months is an achievement of its own kind, I can't
> blame anybody for not keeping it up endlessly.
>
> Harold, thanks for everything you did to make an really open phone a reality.
>
> AVee
>
>
> --
> It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.
>   -- Douglas Adams
>
>
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Can' t agree more.

Best of luck to you Harald. And the same for the OpenMoko team and project!

Regards,

Marc

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Re: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[AVee]

On Friday 16 November 2007 14:20, Javi Roman wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand
> > move like this. Best regards for Harald.
> >
> > 
> > http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
> >
> >  Best regards.
>
> "...internal friction"
>
> weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?

How about everything which goes on in every company which grows fast and is 
under a lot of pressure to release a product? Everybody who has been there 
knows it's stressfull, hectic and yes it is really demotivating, largely 
because you keep spending time on stuff you don't want to do and as a result 
it is really hard to get the stuff you want to do done. All of this is 
doubled when you have a parent company, doubled again when there is a lot of 
publicity around it and doubled once more when you are one of the more well 
known members of the team. 
Coping with that for 18 months is an achievement of its own kind, I can't 
blame anybody for not keeping it up endlessly. 

Harold, thanks for everything you did to make an really open phone a reality.

AVee


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Re: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[Kyle Bassett]

as the shit starts to hit the fan...

On Nov 16, 2007 8:20 AM, Javi Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand move
> > like this. Best regards for Harald.
> >
> >  http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
> >
> >  Best regards.
> >
>
>
> "...internal friction"
>
> weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?
>
> goog luck Harald!
>
>   -Javi
>
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Re: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[Ted Lemon]

On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:22 -0500, Kyle Bassett wrote:
> as the shit starts to hit the fan...

Oh, stop it.   Harald has been saying he's been having difficulty for a
while.   Maybe this is systemic, and maybe it's not, but there's no
reason to side with chaos.   Why not hope for the best, and give what
support you can so that "the best" is the actual outcome?

Harald, so long and thanks for all the fish.   It's been good having you
here.



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Re: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[Thomas Gstädtner]

It's really sad to hear this.
With Harald one of the most trustworthy persons is gone. :(
Well, I'm glad that the other guys like Mickey, Sean, Werner, Joachim, ...
still are there, so I still believe that OpenMoko will be a success.
Let's see what the future brings.
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Re: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[Javi Roman]

On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand move
> like this. Best regards for Harald.
>
>  http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
>
>  Best regards.
>


"...internal friction"

weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?

goog luck Harald!

  -Javi

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Re: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[Mark Chandler]

Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] wrote:
Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand 
move like this. Best regards for Harald.


http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko

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I'd also like to say that I'm sorry to see Harald leave this role. But, 
if you gotta go, you gotta go.


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Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

[Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]]

Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand 
move like this. Best regards for Harald.


http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko

Best regards.
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