Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-09 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:06 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
 Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ... from
 this posting it sounds like that, just wanted to verify. 

Yes. 

-Sean

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Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-09 Thread Ian Stirling

Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:

On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:06 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:

Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ... from
this posting it sounds like that, just wanted to verify. 


Yes. 


Are we talking:

Cosmetic changes - option of coloured covers, a 24K gold neckchain, ...

Minor changes - limited power on the USB port, another couple of 
buttons, maybe an accelerometer chip jammed in somewhere.


Major changes - entire new subsystems.

Everything changes - it's a completely different phone, with some more 
features, and source only compatibility?


I understand you may not be able to answer :)
Counting the days.

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Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-09 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 18:02 +, Ian Stirling wrote:
 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
  On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:06 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
  Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ...
 from
  this posting it sounds like that, just wanted to verify. 
  
  Yes. 
 
 Are we talking:
 
 Cosmetic changes - option of coloured covers, a 24K gold
 neckchain, ...
 
 Minor changes - limited power on the USB port, another couple of 
 buttons, maybe an accelerometer chip jammed in somewhere.
 
 Major changes - entire new subsystems.
 
 Everything changes - it's a completely different phone, with some
 more 
 features, and source only compatibility?
 
 I understand you may not be able to answer :)
 Counting the days. 

I'll be talking more about this stuff in the coming months. I just don't
want to say anything at this point. But don't worry about being an early
adopter. If we come out with something cool we'll make sure you guys can
get it at a discount if you already have a developers version.

-Sean

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Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-09 Thread Florent THIERY

Would EDGE addition be a possibility, or are such changes too big? (apriori
it's a change of the gsm module, dunno how different the AP's OS would have
to be to follow)

Regards

Florent
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Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-09 Thread Pranav Desai

On 2/9/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 18:02 +, Ian Stirling wrote:
 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
  On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:06 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
  Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ...
 from
  this posting it sounds like that, just wanted to verify.
 
  Yes.

 Are we talking:

 Cosmetic changes - option of coloured covers, a 24K gold
 neckchain, ...

 Minor changes - limited power on the USB port, another couple of
 buttons, maybe an accelerometer chip jammed in somewhere.

 Major changes - entire new subsystems.

 Everything changes - it's a completely different phone, with some
 more
 features, and source only compatibility?

 I understand you may not be able to answer :)
 Counting the days.

I'll be talking more about this stuff in the coming months. I just don't
want to say anything at this point. But don't worry about being an early
adopter. If we come out with something cool we'll make sure you guys can
get it at a discount if you already have a developers version.



Thats what I wanted to hear ... :-)


-Sean




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Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-08 Thread Pranav Desai

Hello All,

Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ... from
this posting it sounds like that, just wanted to verify.

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html

2007-03-11 Phase 1: Official Developer Launch
   We will sell the Neo1973 direct from openmoko.com for US$350 plus
   shipping. Sales and orders will be worldwide. We are specifically
   targeting open source community developers.

   2007-09-11 Phase 2: Mass Market Sale
   Online sales will continue. We will also be available in a retail
   stores and selected carriers around the world. At this point, we
   hope your mom and dad will want to buy a Neo1973, too.

   The 2nd generation OpenMoko device will also be introduced at this
   time. We have something special in the works, but again, you will
   help shape this device.

Thanks
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Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

2007-02-08 Thread Rod Whitby
Make sure you don't misread Sean's announcement - Phase 2 refers to the mass 
public sales of the v1 device.  The 'introduction' of the v2 device at that 
same time will most likely be in the form of web pages, not v2 hardware.
That doesn't preclude minor hardware changes between Phase 1 and Phase 2 of the 
v1 device, but I wouldn't get your hopes up (unless there are hardware bugs 
that cannot be worked around in software).  I doubt there would be any major 
feature changes until the v2 device.
-- Rod

-Original Message-
From: Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, Feb 9, 2007 6:36 am
Subject: Hardware changes between phases ?

Hello All,

Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ... from this 
posting it sounds like that, just wanted to verify.

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html

2007-03-11 Phase 1: Official Developer Launch
We will sell the Neo1973 direct from openmoko.com for US$350 plus
shipping. Sales and orders will be worldwide. We are specifically
targeting open source community developers.

2007-09-11 Phase 2: Mass Market Sale
Online sales will continue. We will also be available in a retail
stores and selected carriers around the world. At this point, we
hope your mom and dad will want to buy a Neo1973, too.

The 2nd generation OpenMoko device will also be introduced at this
time. We have something special in the works, but again, you will
help shape this device.

Thanks
-- Pranav

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