Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)
Dnia czwartek, 25 stycznia 2007 20:02, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: MACHINE = native will use your host toolchain and will build binaries for your environment. You can also use MACHINE = progear (its my x86 webpad config) and then use resulting packages/rootfs under chroot or qemu. Is it mandatory to use a different build directory or is it possible to do this under the same build dir? (I am trying, but maybe you can save me some re-compilation time...) It depends, but I prefer to use one build for dir. http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/11/22/my-openembedded-environment-ii/ -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant Problemy z matematyką? Zadzwoń! 0-800-[(10x)(13i)^2]-[sin(xy)/2.362x] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to get involved (HELP!!!)
I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is there another list that is focused more on the development side of things? I'm a little lost on how this project is structured. Can someone please either respond back to this list or email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with more info. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)
Le mercredi 24 janvier 2007 à 14:34 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit : I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is there another list that is focused more on the development side of things? I expect a devel-oriented mailing list to be opened too soon. But before launch, I guess that FIC work forces are focussed on doing the launch. And that's probably appropriate. I'm a little lost on how this project is structured. Can someone please either respond back to this list or email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with more info. As someone else said, we've been asked to do some homework with the OpenEmbedded.org build system. Maybe that was just to reserve adequate space on the hard drive... (takes a lot!) Furthermore, xoo (http://projects.o-hand.com/xoo/) should be useful for application simulation (apparently, a full qemu-like emulation is not mandatory). I guess reading the documentation of bitbake and monotone might be useful too wrt openembedded, as well as studying some of the GPE suite applications. But well, maybe just wait until there's more information available concerning the openmoko-specific APIs. Rodolphe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)
Jonathan, If you visit the wiki that Marc refers to, you will find entries for the build enviroment and emulators, so you can start writing, compiling, and testing simple programs. M On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Marc Verwerft wrote: Jonathan, Things are gonna stay this way till OpenMoko opens up their website/wiki/bugzilla etc. See also http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html All we have are the basic hardware description and some hints on the software. The rest is guesswork for now. Till then your best source is the temporary wiki at http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko Regards, Marc. On 1/24/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is there another list that is focused more on the development side of things? I'm a little lost on how this project is structured. Can someone please either respond back to this list or email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with more info. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)
Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 22:26, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: As someone else said, we've been asked to do some homework with the OpenEmbedded.org build system. Maybe that was just to reserve adequate space on the hard drive... (takes a lot!) Add: INHERIT += rm_work into conf/local.conf and you will get not needed stuff removed after build. Some stuff can broke with it. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)
Jonathan, Probably, you're on your own right now. If I were you, I wouldn't make a sourceforge project yet as in the announcement of Sean he mentioned this: Also, at this time, the following community dedicated websites will be available: * http://openmoko.org/ -- for the actual development community * http://wiki.openmoko.org/ -- for an official wiki of the project * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/ -- for bug tracking * http://lists.openmoko.org/ -- for public mailing lists * http://planet.openmoko.org/ -- for an aggregated feed * http://projects.openmoko.org/ -- for user-contributed projects --- That's what you want, I guess. Regards, Marc On 1/24/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks and will do...working on getting OpenEmbedded installed as we speak/type. One question though. Is there any collaborative place for apps right now? Or is it pretty much every man for himself until they release the source? Meaning, say I start on a simple app, but want feedback. Do I need to create a project (sourceforge, etc) or is there a specific place for OpenMoko software? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, If you visit the wiki that Marc refers to, you will find entries for the build enviroment and emulators, so you can start writing, compiling, and testing simple programs. M On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Marc Verwerft wrote: Jonathan, Things are gonna stay this way till OpenMoko opens up their website/wiki/bugzilla etc. See also http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html All we have are the basic hardware description and some hints on the software. The rest is guesswork for now. Till then your best source is the temporary wiki at http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko Regards, Marc. On 1/24/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is there another list that is focused more on the development side of things? I'm a little lost on how this project is structured. Can someone please either respond back to this list or email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with more info. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 22:58 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: Jonathan, Probably, you're on your own right now. If I were you, I wouldn't make a sourceforge project yet as in the announcement of Sean he mentioned this: * http://projects.openmoko.org/ -- for user-contributed projects --- That's what you want, I guess. I don't think it would cause any harm - repositories are easy to move, especially for the limited scope of pre-hardware apps. I'd certainly be interested in taking a look at any project, and I would have put something on sourceforge already if my project ideas had any functionality yet ;-) Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)
Michael, English is not my native tongue and I certainly didn't mean we wouldn't help anybody out. I just meant that we as a community have nothing more than this list and the wiki for now. So apologies for that. Regards, Marc. On 1/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of us are on our own. I would say use this mailing list, assuming, of course, that you're not writing a complicated application and would post thousands of lines of code. But for simple applications I think most of us would welcome the technical, practical content. And of course any results or interesting observations you make along the way should go on the temporary wiki. Michael On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Marc Verwerft wrote: Jonathan, Probably, you're on your own right now. If I were you, I wouldn't make a sourceforge project yet as in the announcement of Sean he mentioned this: Also, at this time, the following community dedicated websites will be available: * http://openmoko.org/ -- for the actual development community * http://wiki.openmoko.org/ -- for an official wiki of the project * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/ -- for bug tracking * http://lists.openmoko.org/ -- for public mailing lists * http://planet.openmoko.org/ -- for an aggregated feed * http://projects.openmoko.org/ -- for user-contributed projects --- That's what you want, I guess. Regards, Marc On 1/24/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks and will do...working on getting OpenEmbedded installed as we speak/type. One question though. Is there any collaborative place for apps right now? Or is it pretty much every man for himself until they release the source? Meaning, say I start on a simple app, but want feedback. Do I need to create a project (sourceforge, etc) or is there a specific place for OpenMoko software? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, If you visit the wiki that Marc refers to, you will find entries for the build enviroment and emulators, so you can start writing, compiling, and testing simple programs. M On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Marc Verwerft wrote: Jonathan, Things are gonna stay this way till OpenMoko opens up their website/wiki/bugzilla etc. See also http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html All we have are the basic hardware description and some hints on the software. The rest is guesswork for now. Till then your best source is the temporary wiki at http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko Regards, Marc. On 1/24/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is there another list that is focused more on the development side of things? I'm a little lost on how this project is structured. Can someone please either respond back to this list or email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with more info. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)
Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 23:00, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: Thanks for the hint! Please reply UNDER post. Btw, is it possible to build the applications in the native (build host) format too for running under xoo or are they built only in the target format (armv4t IIUC)? MACHINE = native will use your host toolchain and will build binaries for your environment. You can also use MACHINE = progear (its my x86 webpad config) and then use resulting packages/rootfs under chroot or qemu. [1] Maybe I wrong on the intended usage of openembedded btw: is a developper supposed to develop his/her application independently on a computer with the GPE (OpenMoko) environment available and then, later, use OpenEmbedded for cross-build only? It is most comfortable way. As OpenMoko is X11 based then you can you can develop on desktop machine and then update OE recipes to build it for target device. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant I used to think the brain is the most wonderfull organ in my body, till I realised what was telling me that ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
