Re: Is vim included out-of-the-box or shall i port? (was: Re: Development environment

[Cliff Brake]

On 1/31/07, Richi Plana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To justify this being on the developer list and not the community list I could
 pretend that only developers will want vim on their Neo.

Why would you want vim (or any source editor) running on your Neo? First
of all, the primary interface to the Neo is still its touchscreen.
Keyboards won't be available for a while. Second, it probably won't be
worth it to develop applications on the device itself (if that were even
possible given the memory constraints).

If you need to edit text on the phone, use the existing text editor
which, in all likelihood, will take better advantage of the interface
than vim would. I'm sure you could live without syntax highlighting for
a spell.


For embedded Linux development, it is very handy to have a decent
editor running on the target device.  Often there is a need to edit
configuration files etc.  This is typically done over ssh/network
connection from your host system -- you don't run VIM on the target
display.  Because VIM is so easy to build/install with OE, why not :-)

Cliff

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Re: Is vim included out-of-the-box or shall i port? (was: Re: Development environment

[Robert Michel]

Salve Richi!

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Richi Plana wrote:

 On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 08:52 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Speaking of vim, will vim (or another derivitive of vi) be among the 
  included
  applications, or shall I try cross-compiling it right now? (I can't live 
  w/out
  vim).
  
  To justify this being on the developer list and not the community list I 
  could
  pretend that only developers will want vim on their Neo.
 
 Why would you want vim (or any source editor) running on your Neo? First
 of all, the primary interface to the Neo is still its touchscreen.
 Keyboards won't be available for a while.

This isn't true. Battery powerd USB hubs and USB Keyboards are on the
market and costs togehter less then 20Euro. And most text edior have
a uniq way how they behave - so having several ediors for the users
to choose that on that they used to - it will be a good solution for
everybody - no need to start an editor flamewar :))

And I'm realy happy about the desin without a keyboard but 
a great touchscreen of the Neo. Short text input / modification
with the touchscreen, writing more text = using an external 
normal keyboard, IMHO the perfect solution for a mobil computer.


I, myself like to use vim, I use vim to write my emails - mutt is
calling vim and so I would like when vi (with busybox) or vim is 
on the neo. Touchscreen is a point to think about that a virtual
keyboard could be optimized for different editors.. e.g. is ESC
often used, working with vim.. :)

BTW vim is also usable with the textbrowser elinks - when editing
text boxes...

So I see demand and use for vim with OpenMoko.

Greetings,
rob


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