Re: LCD protector

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
I also planned to buy some screen protectors for the freerunner... 
Reading comments on the net I've heard that the best ones are the 
Brando (they've a site shipping worldwide, but I can't find it now) 
anyway I don't really know if it's an hoax or not...


BTW since the Openmoko phones aren't commercial phones, to find the 
screen protector with the right size (or something bigger), I'd need to 
know which other phone/PDA has the same screen size of the Freerunner.

Do you have advices for this?


Well, I asked this Brando directly, I've said them that the Freerunner 
LCD has the size of 46mm x 61mm (is this true? Please, if I'm wrong post 
here right values) and they replied me:



The nearest size is 45.2 mm W. x  59.5mm H (iPAQ rx4000 = ETEN P300).
Please check if this size would fit.


What should I answer them?


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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-15 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 20:04:33 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va escriure:
 So you're simply putting the protector under the phone case?
Yes

 Doesn't it move around?

I only notice some movement when using the fingers if I'm sweating. 

Ah... And I forgot: what about the dust (under the sheet)?

I usually clean the screen  the sheet when replacing the protector. I haven't 
noticed dust betwen the screen  the sheet

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Saturday, 12 de April de 2008 23:13:40 Ajit Natarajan va escriure:
 A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector.  It is a
 sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen.  When
 affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation.
 However, it resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be wiped off.

 Is this something that will be needed on the Freerunner?  Or does the
 Freerunner come with a scratch resistant screen/coating?  If a protector
 is needed, will there be an option to purchase it?

I Use a A4 sheet of laser printer for overhead projectors film.
I printed a grid 46 mm x 60mm on the sheet the I cut the protectors on demand.
They fit nicely if the are inserted first on the left side of the neo.



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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:

I Use a A4 sheet of laser printer for overhead projectors film.
I printed a grid 46 mm x 60mm on the sheet the I cut the protectors on demand.
They fit nicely if the are inserted first on the left side of the neo.


That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how they look on the 
screen? Are they invisible as the (best) lcd protector are?

How do you attach it to the phone?

Btw, if you can share your grid-sheet... :P

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 13:16:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va escriure:
 Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:
  I Use a A4 sheet of laser printer for overhead projectors film.
  I printed a grid 46 mm x 60mm on the sheet the I cut the protectors on
  demand. They fit nicely if the are inserted first on the left side of the
  neo.

 That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how they look on the
 screen? Are they invisible as the (best) lcd protector are?
 How do you attach it to the phone?

I will take some some pictures later this evening. 

 Btw, if you can share your grid-sheet... :P

I am using 46mm x 61mm cells now they have more forstability for finger based 
ballistic scrolling ;)

It is in http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/7/7b/Protector.pdf

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread christooss

Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:

El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 13:16:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va escriure:
  

Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:


I Use a A4 sheet of laser printer for overhead projectors film.
I printed a grid 46 mm x 60mm on the sheet the I cut the protectors on
demand. They fit nicely if the are inserted first on the left side of the
neo.
  

That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how they look on the
screen? Are they invisible as the (best) lcd protector are?
How do you attach it to the phone?


I have question about this. What about detachment. Is any glue involved.

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread jluis
 El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 13:16:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va
 escriure:
 That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how they look on the
 screen? Are they invisible as the (best) lcd protector are?
 How do you attach it to the phone?

I have uploaded a video to youtube http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9enAgqLWeX0

The video is prety static ( it was made with my macbook integrated cam)

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread christooss

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 13:16:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va
escriure:


That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how they look on the
screen? Are they invisible as the (best) lcd protector are?
How do you attach it to the phone?
  


I have uploaded a video to youtube http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9enAgqLWeX0

The video is prety static ( it was made with my macbook integrated cam)

  


Thanks for the video. Now I see how this lcd protector works. I thought 
that its some kind of colorless sticker.


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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

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How do you attach it to the phone?


I have uploaded a video to youtube http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9enAgqLWeX0


So you're simply putting the protector under the phone case?
Doesn't it move around?

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/brando_workshop_ultra_clear_protector_plus_screen_protector
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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-14 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How do you attach it to the phone?


I have uploaded a video to youtube 
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9enAgqLWeX0


So you're simply putting the protector under the phone case?
Doesn't it move around?


Ah... And I forgot: what about the dust (under the sheet)?


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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-13 Thread andy selby
  BTW since the Openmoko phones aren't commercial phones, to find the
 screen protector with the right size (or something bigger), I'd need to know
 which other phone/PDA has the same screen size of the Freerunner.
  Do you have advices for this?

There are cut-to size screen protectors available, this is one I found
for the UK
http://linkpot.net/misruled/
Just google for cut to size or custom and screen protectors in
your localality, i.e. google.de/google.cn etc..

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-13 Thread Ortwin Regel
A German ebay seller has some that are advertised as being made for
the Neo 1973 (and should thus work fine on the Freerunner as it has
the same case and screen dimensions):
http://cgi.ebay.de/18x-Schutzfolie-Computer-Neo-1973-Tuch_W0QQitemZ290145736835QQihZ019QQcategoryZ38950QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
They are a little too big but work well nonetheless. It's difficult to
attach them without bubbles, though. However, you get 18 of them so
you can practice a lot. I can't remember whether the instructions that
came with it were in German or in English... It amounts to slowly
attaching the protector millimeter for millimeter while all the time
rubbing out the bubbles. I've heard this works best in a wet
environment. Obviously there shouldn't be much dust around and you
should clean your screen properly.

Ortwin

On 4/12/08, Ajit Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector.  It is a
 sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen.  When
 affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation.
 However, it resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be wiped off.

 Is this something that will be needed on the Freerunner?  Or does the
 Freerunner come with a scratch resistant screen/coating?  If a protector
 is needed, will there be an option to purchase it?

 My friend told me that one needs to be careful when affixing the
 protector, or ``bubbles'' will result.  It would be great if
 instructions could be included with the protector on the best technique
 to affix it.

 Thanks.

 Ajit



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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-13 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
i wrote to the shop of nexave.de (german shop for screen protectors) and 
they would sale a special freerunner protector and also make custom 
protectors.


they told me that the protectors of the nokia n95 would fit for the 
freerunner.


i think with enough people who want to by a protector they will add the 
protector to their shop or make a good price.


Sebastian

Ajit Natarajan schrieb:

Hello,

A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector.  It is 
a sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen.  
When affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation. 
However, it resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be wiped off.


Is this something that will be needed on the Freerunner?  Or does the 
Freerunner come with a scratch resistant screen/coating?  If a 
protector is needed, will there be an option to purchase it?


My friend told me that one needs to be careful when affixing the 
protector, or ``bubbles'' will result.  It would be great if 
instructions could be included with the protector on the best 
technique to affix it.


Thanks.

Ajit



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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-13 Thread Ajit Natarajan

Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A German ebay seller has some that are advertised as being made for
the Neo 1973 (and should thus work fine on the Freerunner as it has
the same case and screen dimensions):
http://cgi.ebay.de/18x-Schutzfolie-Computer-Neo-1973-Tuch_W0QQitemZ290145736835QQihZ019QQcategoryZ38950QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247


Thanks.

This eBay seller says:

Versand nach:   Deutschland

which translates to ``ship to: Germany'' according to the online German 
- English dictionary.  I presume this means that the seller will not 
ship outside Germany.  I am in the U.S., so this won't work :( .


Ajit

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-13 Thread Ortwin Regel
Well, maybe if you ask nicely he will ship to the US anyway.

On 4/13/08, Ajit Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A German ebay seller has some that are advertised as being made for
  the Neo 1973 (and should thus work fine on the Freerunner as it has
  the same case and screen dimensions):
 
 http://cgi.ebay.de/18x-Schutzfolie-Computer-Neo-1973-Tuch_W0QQitemZ290145736835QQihZ019QQcategoryZ38950QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

 Thanks.

 This eBay seller says:

 Versand nach: Deutschland

 which translates to ``ship to: Germany'' according to the online German
 - English dictionary.  I presume this means that the seller will not
 ship outside Germany.  I am in the U.S., so this won't work :( .

 Ajit

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-13 Thread Peter Trapp
On Sonntag, 13. April 2008, Ortwin Regel wrote:
 They are a little too big but work well nonetheless.

I also attached some LCD protector. A little too big is not a problem. I 
didn't even cut it. I just attached to directly [1] 


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[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973

[2] http://openmoko.com/products-neo-advanced-03-hardware.html

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LCD protector

2008-04-12 Thread Ajit Natarajan

Hello,

A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector.  It is a 
sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen.  When 
affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation. 
However, it resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be wiped off.


Is this something that will be needed on the Freerunner?  Or does the 
Freerunner come with a scratch resistant screen/coating?  If a protector 
is needed, will there be an option to purchase it?


My friend told me that one needs to be careful when affixing the 
protector, or ``bubbles'' will result.  It would be great if 
instructions could be included with the protector on the best technique 
to affix it.


Thanks.

Ajit



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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-12 Thread Nick Guenther
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ajit Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

  A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector.  It is a
 sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen.  When
 affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation. However, it
 resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be wiped off.

  Is this something that will be needed on the Freerunner?  Or does the
 Freerunner come with a scratch resistant screen/coating?  If a protector is
 needed, will there be an option to purchase it?

  My friend told me that one needs to be careful when affixing the protector,
 or ``bubbles'' will result.  It would be great if instructions could be
 included with the protector on the best technique to affix it.

I sliced off the edges of some of my old Palm protectors and stuck it
to my Neo. It gets bubbles at first but after some use they just
disappear.
-Nick

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-12 Thread clare

My Neo1973 had a protector sheet on it when it arrived back in July.
It had a small tab in one corner to pull it off with which I cut back
a bit. It is pulled away very slightly at one edge, and has tiny 
imperfections  so I am sure it is still there. It is invisible in use.


At one time you had to buy them to fit the particular device, but I saw a
general purpose one you cut to size yourself in Dick Smiths last week.

clare

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Nick Guenther wrote:


On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ajit Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

 A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector.  It is a
sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen.  When
affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation. However, it
resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be wiped off.

 Is this something that will be needed on the Freerunner?  Or does the
Freerunner come with a scratch resistant screen/coating?  If a protector is
needed, will there be an option to purchase it?

 My friend told me that one needs to be careful when affixing the protector,
or ``bubbles'' will result.  It would be great if instructions could be
included with the protector on the best technique to affix it.


I sliced off the edges of some of my old Palm protectors and stuck it
to my Neo. It gets bubbles at first but after some use they just
disappear.
-Nick

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Re: LCD protector

2008-04-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

Ajit Natarajan wrote:
A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector.  It is a 
sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen.  When 
affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation. 
However, it resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be wiped off.


I also planned to buy some screen protectors for the freerunner... 
Reading comments on the net I've heard that the best ones are the 
Brando (they've a site shipping worldwide, but I can't find it now) 
anyway I don't really know if it's an hoax or not...


BTW since the Openmoko phones aren't commercial phones, to find the 
screen protector with the right size (or something bigger), I'd need to 
know which other phone/PDA has the same screen size of the Freerunner.

Do you have advices for this?

Thanks!

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