Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-06 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I don't see why one user would not want to reveal his location, because he already send it regularly, although less precisely, to his telco because that's how GSM works. AFAIK, telcos are then free to use this information commercialy and forced to give all details to the cops when asked to,

Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 06 July 2007 15:05, cedric cellier wrote: -[ Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 01:30:48PM -0400, Paul Wouters ] Especially, an implementation of the Pierre protocol would be interesting. In essence, using the protocol, two people can reveal each others location but only when they are

Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-06 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the moment the telcos don't seem to be making their subscribers' locations freely available. If they did I would probably keep my phone turned off until I needed it, because I don't trust everybody to be nice. Location-based marketing would be

Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-06 Thread Tim Newsom
On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:25, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Another good reason from an open-source product. Maybe there is a vast untapped market for selling open-source phones to the governments of the world (to protect them from the other governments of the word. ;-)) -wolfgang Except that as

Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Werner Almesberger wrote: Trails of multiple users, shared in real time, would be the killer application. I don't think anyone is doing that at the moment. A typical scenario would be to meet someone in a city both don't know. Street names aren't very useful, but knowing

Re: Location Privacy Protocols, was Re: GPS trail - crazy idea

2007-07-05 Thread Nick Johnson
On 7/6/07, Paul Wouters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A paper was presented at the Privacy Enhancing Technologies conference in Ottawa a few weeks ago: Louis, Lester and Pierre: Three Protocols for Location Privacy Ge Zhong, Ian Goldberg, Urs Hengartner (University of Waterloo) See: