Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
Will report in case of success. Great! It'd be pretty nice if we could come up with an installable app that will just do the Copy from Flash to SD and re-configure to boot from SD process for an end user. I'd find it quite useful - as a matter of fact I prefer to have my entire system on SD rather than flash, since I intend to load it to the gills with all possible applications I can find! :) ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your indications, but my goal is not to install a *new* system on the SD, but to *transfer* the current one to the SD. I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's difficult to move things from the very live system you're running. cp -a /bin /dev /sbin ... /media/sdcard usually works for me on the desktop. remember to leave out /proc /sys a.s.o. though. hope this helps ... clemens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
Clemens Kirchgatterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your indications, but my goal is not to install a *new* system on the SD, but to *transfer* the current one to the SD. I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's difficult to move things from the very live system you're running. cp -a /bin /dev /sbin ... /media/sdcard usually works for me on the desktop. remember to leave out /proc /sys a.s.o. though. hope this helps ... No problem here, as in the procedure I documented on the wiki, you're copying a not-live system, as you copy from flash when running from SD, so /proc and /sys are unmounted. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
yochaigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The key is to follow the wikis--- but make sure you format and fill the sd card from a linux box, not from the phone. do everything as root. also, make sure to update your u-boot so that it can handle fat and ext file systems. finally, be very careful in uploading the root filesystem -- -make sure you mount a .jffs2 (follow the wiki) on your linux box and then FROM that you should create a tarball --- -which you THEN and only THEN move over to the rootfs partition of the sd card. Otherwise some important dev nodes get lost in the process. wiki I used to start: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD Thanks for your indications, but my goal is not to install a *new* system on the SD, but to *transfer* the current one to the SD. I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's difficult to move things from the very live system you're running. To do that on a desktop system, I would boot to single user first... but what about on a FR ? Would you recommend a good procedure for moving my 2007.2 system to SD ? And would it run fine from SD too, once moved ? Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's difficult to move things from the very live system you're running. i'd think the only thing to care about would be /var/. just as idea: rsync the whole of the fr to the sd card and diff after a while to see which parts changed. examine these files and see if you need to set something to default values. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's difficult to move things from the very live system you're running. i'd think the only thing to care about would be /var/. just as idea: rsync the whole of the fr to the sd card and diff after a while to see which parts changed. examine these files and see if you need to set something to default values. Thanks for the tips. I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to document it here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD Basically, you boot into a system on SD, and then, from there, you mount the root partition in flash and copy its contents to a backup dir on the SD. Hopefully, the SD is big enough to hold two systems. I've tested it and I have my backup of OM 2007.2 on SD. Now I need to test if I can boot it on the SD. If it succeeds, I will then be able to flash OM 2008.8, and have switched between flash and SD. Dual booting is cool ;) Will try and report on success/problems. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to document it here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD Great work! I was going to do something similar to this myself this weekend but I'll wait to hear of your results before I do! :) ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to document it here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD Great work! I was going to do something similar to this myself this weekend but I'll wait to hear of your results before I do! :) One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash to SD 5 or 6 files. After diff -r on dirs I found out which and md5sumed them... That's rather frightening, I think :( Anyway, I copied them over again, and am now trying to figure out if I can boot OK with right kernel and if it goes well. Will report in case of success. -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
you better off using cpio or rsync imho for copying filesystems entirely since they know more about devices/pipes/etc On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Olivier Berger wrote: One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash to SD 5 or 6 files. After diff -r on dirs I found out which and md5sumed them... That's rather frightening, I think :( Anyway, I copied them over again, and am now trying to figure out if I can boot OK with right kernel and if it goes well. Will report in case of success. -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you better off using cpio or rsync imho for copying filesystems entirely since they know more about devices/pipes/etc You may be right, although on a typical Debian system, I tend to trust cp -a... Now, it may be a busybox version, with other bugs... or maybe it's a filesystem reliability issue, and tools won't change that (I tend to prefer that second option, as copying again same files, but individually achieved proper md5sums...) In any case, I suggest that you update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD if you would like to test and document your findings with other tools. On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Olivier Berger wrote: One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash to SD 5 or 6 files. Thanks. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution : SUCCESS
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to document it here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD Great work! I was going to do something similar to this myself this weekend but I'll wait to hear of your results before I do! :) One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash to SD 5 or 6 files. After diff -r on dirs I found out which and md5sumed them... That's rather frightening, I think :( Anyway, I copied them over again, and am now trying to figure out if I can boot OK with right kernel and if it goes well. Will report in case of success. Once the copying issues are sorted out, it seems to work. So, as far as I can see, the procedure is a success :-) Hope this helps. Best regards, P.S.: now I can dual boot : placing calls from SD with OM 2007.2 or receiving calls from flash with 2008.8 : both have bugs, but oposite ones ;-( -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
In any case, I suggest that you update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD if you would like to test and document your findings with other tools. done (though I haven't tested them for this particular purpose yet...) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
Hi. I thought of moving my currently running (quite fine alhough the usual problems, i.e. I can place calls anyway) 2007.2 system to microSD, so that I could flash the new 2008.8 image and run it from flash (it seems I cannot manage to run it from SD, btw). Would you recommend a good procedure for moving my 2007.2 system to SD ? And would it run fine from SD too, once moved ? Thanks in advance. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution
I currently have Qtopia on my microSD, it doesn't work 100% but enough to use it as a backup phone OS. The key is to follow the wikis--- but make sure you format and fill the sd card from a linux box, not from the phone. do everything as root. also, make sure to update your u-boot so that it can handle fat and ext file systems. finally, be very careful in uploading the root filesystem -- -make sure you mount a .jffs2 (follow the wiki) on your linux box and then FROM that you should create a tarball --- -which you THEN and only THEN move over to the rootfs partition of the sd card. Otherwise some important dev nodes get lost in the process. wiki I used to start: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD good luck yochai Olivier Berger wrote: Hi. I thought of moving my currently running (quite fine alhough the usual problems, i.e. I can place calls anyway) 2007.2 system to microSD, so that I could flash the new 2008.8 image and run it from flash (it seems I cannot manage to run it from SD, btw). Would you recommend a good procedure for moving my 2007.2 system to SD ? And would it run fine from SD too, once moved ? Thanks in advance. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Moving-my-2007.2-to-SD-to-try-2008.8-with-fallback-solution-tp682485p683408.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
