Lars Hallberg wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
the GPS daemon would need to be updated to allow for kallman filtering
using those accelerometers, so that the GPS apps could continue pointing
the phones location inside tunnels and stuff
Unfortunately not. As already pointed out on that list,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
the GPS daemon would need to be updated to allow for kallman filtering
using those accelerometers, so that the GPS apps could continue pointing
the phones location inside tunnels and stuff
Unfortunately not. As already pointed out on that list, the
accelerometers error
el jefe delito wrote:
Could someone please explain to me the difference between Phase 1 and
Phase 2 phones, from an availability standpoint? Will it be the Phase1
being released in September, and Phase2 sometime in 2008? Or is Phase1
a design prototype and Phase2 closer to the for-sale unit
On 05/06/07, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If your tracking movement with 2 3D accelerometers... What would another
one provide.
As far as I can tell (I am not an expert...)
Tracking all 6 vectors will tell you absolute movement in space. I.e,
when 2 vectors point in the same direction
Including more than one accelerometer doesn't really make sense I
think because there are rotation sensors for detecting rotation. I
have one in my DS Motion ( ndsmotion.com ) which can detect rotation
around one axis. Include 3 of those (or probably a combined one) and
you are good to go. In
Why the Neo is going to have 2 tri-axis accelerometers is beyond me. The
only reason you would want to use 2 3d accelerometers is if you want
higher accuracy in rotation measurements, but for the type of
application I see little gain in the extra accuracy. The Nintendo
Wiimote only uses 1 3d
I think the reason for using accelerometers not solid state gyros is cost.
Sean quoted $3 for accels on the list a while back, while 3 axis gyros with
SPI were closer to $20 last I looked, and that was for one that wasn't
available yet. Production will ramp up, prices will fall and a future
I think the reason for using accelerometers not solid state gyros is cost.
Sean quoted $3 for accels on the list a while back, while 3 axis gyros
with
SPI were closer to $20 last I looked, and that was for one that wasn't
available yet. Production will ramp up, prices will fall and a future
Dnia niedziela, 3 czerwca 2007, Oleg Gusev napisał:
Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2007 17:00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature:
-a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator
This one needs more clarification.
I doubt that it will be some ATI chipset.
Looking at recently released code from
Am Montag, 4. Juni 2007 09:09 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
Looking at recently released code from coreteam it will be SMedia chip.
Yes, having such chip http://www.smediatech.com/product3370.htm
would be really nice.
And as user of ATI gfx cards I am happy that they do not use ATI chipsets
as
On Sunday 03 June 2007 19:47, kenneth marken wrote:
3dacceleration? That means 3D desktop can be done now? Or what should
we think of that?
My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video
reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just
My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video
reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just
bonus/eyecandy material.
I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing;
a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the finally thing everybody has been asking for:
2 Accelerometers. F**k yeah. Looking forward to it.
(Has anyone heard any updates concerning possible multi-touch-abilities
of the neo yet?)
the GPS daemon would need to be updated to allow for kallman filtering
On Monday 04 June 2007 11:03, Florent THIERY wrote:
My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video
reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just
bonus/eyecandy material.
I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D
On Monday 04 June 2007 12:48, Frank Coenen wrote:
H264 will probably not work. If you look at the website:
http://www.smediatech.com/product3370.htm
The chip used by the GTA_02 will probably be the 3362-version. That
supports VGA displays, but does not support H264.
At least it lists MPEG4,
From official SMedia press release for Glamo3662 [1]:
* MPEG4 full hardware codec function
* 5M pixel high resolution picture
Glamo3362 supports up to 5M pixel resolution picture function,
including auto focus, auto white balance and auto exposure that are
reaching the image quality of a
On Monday 04 June 2007 10:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the GPS daemon would need to be updated to allow for kallman filtering
using those accelerometers, so that the GPS apps could continue pointing
the phones location inside tunnels and stuff
Unfortunately not. As already pointed out on
Florent THIERY wrote:
Just a thought: on macbooks, apple uses the hard drive's acceleration
sensors (normally, safety function) as input device. Wanna tilt your
neo? :)
Someone wrote a programme that'll emit star wars light saber noises when you
swing your laptop around. It'd be cool to have
Wow, that all sounds really awsome!
But there's one thing I don't understand: I expected the Phase 2 Hardware to
be the same as in Phase 1+.
So does this new informations mean P1+ will get this fantastic hardware
upgrade, too or is it just for P2 which will be different to P1+ then?
The Neo seems
How does Phase1 and Phase2 differ for the user (non-dev) who will be buying
in September (or whenever the release date is)? Will the first public
release of these phones be Phase2 or Phase2+? Should we be hyping the wifi
on the Neo1973 when discussing the phone with others, or should we be
Florent THIERY wrote:
My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video
reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just
bonus/eyecandy material.
I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing;
a real (understand: usable)
Hmm. Are there any existing devices or eval boards that have this chip?
On 6/4/07, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From official SMedia press release for Glamo3662 [1]:
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I imagine some creative programmer could offload some GPS calculations
into 3D space... just an idea if the GPU is very efficient.
~Bradley
Attila Csipa wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007 11:03, Florent THIERY wrote:
My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video
If I well understand, three accelerometers are necessary to fully define
all phone's movements. Isn't it?
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-May/005216.html
So, what's the reason to have only two, and not three 3D accelerometers?
- the cost?... 3 $US (But I don't know if it's a
There are two 3D accelerometers according to the talk at Tossug.
-Steven
On 6/4/07, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I well understand, three accelerometers are necessary to fully define
all phone's movements. Isn't it?
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-May/005216.html
So,
If your tracking movement with 2 3D accelerometers... What would another
one provide.
As far as I can tell (I am not an expert...)
Tracking all 6 vectors will tell you absolute movement in space. I.e,
when 2 vectors point in the same direction with the same magnitude at
approximately the same
Hi list,
I got some news to share with you.
As of Mickey's OpenMoko-talk at the Berliner LinuxTag (LinuxDay) there
are some new hardware information:
Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature:
-a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator
-256MByte of Flash Memory
-WiFi
-updated battery: 1700mAh
And the finally thing
... so excited that I completly forgot to give you my source:
http://sicherheitsschwankung.de/gallery/v/openmoko/IMG_8662-slide.JPG.html
tim/minime
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Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature:
-a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator
-256MByte of Flash Memory
-WiFi
-updated battery: 1700mAh
oh ye flippin gods! yes, now we are talking phone!
im seriously looking forward to seeing what people can make of this
device :D
Samsung S3C2442/400 does 400 mHz, right?
That almost beats the ancient and huge PC I am typing this on right now.
(Just 50 mHz short).
And if we count bluetooth, touch screen and form factor, that PC is now
useless except as a file server! (Well, assuming the graphics accelerator is
nice. It
An one more thing.. Is there a camera for the phone too? Just because
I saw on the Samsung's website that it has a camera support:
Camera Interface supporting up to 4096 x 4096
resolution (2048 x 2048 pixel input support for
scaling)
3dacceleration? That means 3D desktop can be done now? Or what should
we think of that?
Dan
On 6/3/07, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature:
-a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator
-256MByte of Flash Memory
-WiFi
-updated battery: 1700mAh
oh ye flippin gods! yes,
Hmm, does that list mean that the
GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth?
Also, it would be nice to know when GTA-02 has been pushed back to.
Does anyone have any information on that?
Thanks.
Richard
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Does this mean the Neo 1973 has this hardware? That would just be fantastic
:)
When will Phase 2 be ready?
3d desktop would be really cool too, but I think the desktop at the moment
is best for such a small screen..
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Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature:
-a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator
-256MByte of Flash Memory
-WiFi
-updated battery: 1700mAh
That would be f%%%ing great =)
And what's about price of GTA-02?
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Best regards,
Denis
Excellent news. I'm looking forward do doing development on such a rich
platform, in terms of both the hardware and software. Any word on what
specific chip the graphics acceleration will be? Also, I know people
have been asking a lot for Wifi, which is definitely a good feature
considering the
No...
Look at the rest ;-) That would also mean that GTA02 doesn't have a gsm-chip
:-p
The GTA02 part simply says what it has extra to the GTAb_v4
On 6/3/07, Richard Boehme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, does that list mean that the
GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth?
Also, it would be
Sounds great! Now I have to figure out if I wait for phase 2 or get a
phase 1 device ASAP and upgrade later... I really need a phone NOW but
I also need a phone with Wifi, Accelerometers and more raw power! B)
Ortwin
On 6/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi list,
I got some
Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2007 17:00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature:
-a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator
This one needs more clarification.
I doubt that it will be some ATI chipset.
Oleg.
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2007/6/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature:
-a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator
-256MByte of Flash Memory
-WiFi
-updated battery: 1700mAh
Well, GTA-01 is now definitely dead on arrival. Without finished
software is hasn't any chance. My bet: it won't be sold at
2007/6/3, Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2007/6/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature:
-a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator
-256MByte of Flash Memory
-WiFi
-updated battery: 1700mAh
Well, GTA-01 is now definitely dead on arrival. Without finished
software
Developers, developers, developers!!! (Steve Balmer style, if you know what
I mean).
It will be a while for GTA_02 to come out. The GTA_01 batch will probably be
sold to (community)developers.
Hardware will of course be continually upgraded, but you have to start
somewere with the software.
Well, GTA-01 is now definitely dead on arrival. Without finished
software is hasn't any chance. My bet: it won't be sold at all, nobody
would buy it now. GTA-02 will be the first model on sale.
Am I correct?
Not a chance. It's a common mistake (sometimes called The Osborne
Mistake after
On 6/3/07, Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Well, GTA-01 is now definitely dead on arrival. Without finished
software is hasn't any chance. My bet: it won't be sold at all, nobody
would buy it now. GTA-02 will be the first model on sale.
/snip
Actually, I think this is great
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