Neo1973 drawings - 3D model

2007-11-19 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
I also made a simple 3D model of the Neo1973.  It's intended more for 
drawings  illustrations, since I didn't have all the dimensions and the 
model is a bit rough.  If anyone has detailed measurements it would be 
great if they posted them on the wiki.  Links to the model  some 
renderings are on the wiki as follows:


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:Neo1973:Alternate_Cases#Alternate_Case_Suggestion_Format
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_case_schematics

-Jeremiah


Ryan Lerch wrote:

Yeah, if the wiki took SVG, I would have uploaded them there instead of the
openclipart library.

  

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On 10/4/07, Ryan Lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If anyone is interested, I have uploaded a few simple drawings of the
neo1973 to the openclipart library.
  

Cool.  I made links on the wiki.

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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-21 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
Ah, I checked.
My version of SolidEdge can export objects to:
- IGES (*.igs)
- ProductVision (*.jt)
- ACIS (*.sat)
- STEP (*.stp)
- ParaSolid (*.x_b,*.x_t)
- XGL (*.xgl)
- EMS (*.ems)
- STL (*.stl)
- VRML

I have no idea of wether these formats are interesting for you or not.
Google SketchUp may be a good alternative here.

2007/10/21, Eric Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I wrote:

  If this doesn't happen before next wednesday, remind me and I'll
  measure up one of my GTA01s with my digital micrometer. I happen to
  be 1000km from it this weekend (my micrometer not my neo :-)

 Robin Paulson wrote:

  Hi eric,
  have you been able to make any progress measuring the case for your
  neo1973?

 Hi Robin,

 I have, but haven't completed everything yet. I've got a bunch of
 measurements taken, but to be honest my digital micrometer has an
 accuracy of 0.01mm but I don't have the caffeine-free patience to get
 anything to more than 1-2mm at the moment.

 I have started some sketches/mockup in a free version of Google
 Sketchup. If I can't get any farther this week, I'll put up what I
 have finished so far.

 -E

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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-20 Thread Eric Preston


I wrote:


If this doesn't happen before next wednesday, remind me and I'll
measure up one of my GTA01s with my digital micrometer. I happen to
be 1000km from it this weekend (my micrometer not my neo :-)


Robin Paulson wrote:


Hi eric,
have you been able to make any progress measuring the case for your  
neo1973?


Hi Robin,

I have, but haven't completed everything yet. I've got a bunch of  
measurements taken, but to be honest my digital micrometer has an  
accuracy of 0.01mm but I don't have the caffeine-free patience to get  
anything to more than 1-2mm at the moment.


I have started some sketches/mockup in a free version of Google  
Sketchup. If I can't get any farther this week, I'll put up what I  
have finished so far.


-E

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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-18 Thread Alexey Feldgendler

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:33:12 +0200, Doug Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Would be great if somebody did a really thorough job of documenting the  
Neo case.  In other words, disassemble a Neo as described here:


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973

and make nice orthographic images of all the case parts, from all angles  
  --  back, front, edge-on, etc.


As far as I know, the GTA02 case would be different from GTA01 inside,  
though the outer shape doesn't change.



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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-18 Thread Robin Paulson
On 18/10/2007, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If someone gives me left-top-front etc views of a neo case... I can try to
 do something with SolidEdge (academic version of SolidWorks). I can't
 promise exactly when, maybe this weekend.

 (And it would be helpful if neo's curves were circles and not complicated
 splines... :D )

i assume solidedge can output in some friendly, non-proprietary format?

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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-18 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
 i assume solidedge can output in some friendly, non-proprietary format?


eh eh eh... not sure...
At least jpeg/png is OK :). I hope it can do DXF or something like that.
I'll check this evening.

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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-18 Thread Doug Jones

Alexey Feldgendler wrote:

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:33:12 +0200, Doug Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Would be great if somebody did a really thorough job of documenting 
the Neo case.  In other words, disassemble a Neo as described here:


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973

and make nice orthographic images of all the case parts, from all 
angles   --  back, front, edge-on, etc.


As far as I know, the GTA02 case would be different from GTA01 inside, 
though the outer shape doesn't change.






If this is true, then the GTA02 case should be documented in the same 
way, when we get our hands on it.  (I am planning to do this myself in 
December, if the current schedule holds.)


But the GTA01 should be documented too.  And the sooner this is done, 
the sooner we will be able to finish the designs of things like 
ExpansionBack and ExpansionSpacer, which should work equally well with 
GTA01 and GTA02.


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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-17 Thread Doug Jones





for a start that some of us have made on the wiki. is anyone with a
GTA01 up for whipping out their micrometer/3d scanner and knocking
something together?
even better, is anyone at FIC/openmoko able and willing to provide us
with detailed drawings of the case?


If this doesn't happen before next wednesday, remind me and I'll measure 
up one of my GTA01s with my digital micrometer. I happen to be 1000km 
from it this weekend (my micrometer not my neo :-)



Would be great if somebody did a really thorough job of documenting the 
Neo case.  In other words, disassemble a Neo as described here:


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973

and make nice orthographic images of all the case parts, from all angles 
 --  back, front, edge-on, etc.


The easiest way to do this is to simply place the parts on a flatbed 
scanner.  And put a pair of short rulers on there too, at right angles, 
for calibration (millimeter scale!).


The orthographic images produced in this way aren't perfect, but they're 
a lot better than what you get with an ordinary camera, at least for 
some purposes.  You don't have to worry about camera angles and such, 
and the resolution is potentially much higher too.


By all means, make lots of measurements with the micrometer, everything 
you can think of that might be useful to somebody who wants to hack 
hardware or design add-on parts.  But with some good orthographic images 
uploaded into the wiki, people would have an opportunity to make 
measurements that weren't thought of when the micrometer measurements 
were made, or that aren't easy to make with a micrometer.


Some non-trivial things to measure include draft angles and radii of 
curvature (there are lots of these, as molded parts rarely have true 
sharp corners on them  --  these corners are usually radiused).


Use a high resolution, true color, PNG format.  Leave the scanner lid up 
and turn off the room lights for a nice black background.


Yes the image files will be large.  I don't mind, I have broadband.  :)




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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-05 Thread Eric Preston



for a start that some of us have made on the wiki. is anyone with a
GTA01 up for whipping out their micrometer/3d scanner and knocking
something together?
even better, is anyone at FIC/openmoko able and willing to provide us
with detailed drawings of the case?


If this doesn't happen before next wednesday, remind me and I'll  
measure up one of my GTA01s with my digital micrometer. I happen to  
be 1000km from it this weekend (my micrometer not my neo :-)


-E


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Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-04 Thread Ryan Lerch
If anyone is interested, I have uploaded a few simple drawings of the
neo1973 to the openclipart library.

 

http://openclipart.org/media/files/ryanlerch/4728

http://openclipart.org/media/files/ryanlerch/4729

 

Being the openclipartlibrary, they are public domain. 

 

:P

 

Have fun!

 

 

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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/4/07, Ryan Lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If anyone is interested, I have uploaded a few simple drawings of the
 neo1973 to the openclipart library…

Cool.  I made links on the wiki.

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RE: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-04 Thread Ryan Lerch
Yeah, if the wiki took SVG, I would have uploaded them there instead of the
openclipart library.

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 Subject: Re: Neo1973 drawings
 
 On 10/4/07, Ryan Lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If anyone is interested, I have uploaded a few simple drawings of the
  neo1973 to the openclipart library.
 
 Cool.  I made links on the wiki.
 
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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-04 Thread Ryan Prior
The openclipart library needs stuff like this! Good submission.
On 10/4/07, Ryan Lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, if the wiki took SVG, I would have uploaded them there instead of
 the
 openclipart library.

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  Subject: Re: Neo1973 drawings
 
  On 10/4/07, Ryan Lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   If anyone is interested, I have uploaded a few simple drawings of the
   neo1973 to the openclipart library.
 
  Cool.  I made links on the wiki.
 
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Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-04 Thread Robin Paulson
 On 10/4/07, Ryan Lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If anyone is interested, I have uploaded a few simple drawings of the
  neo1973 to the openclipart library.
On 05/10/2007, Ryan Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The openclipart library needs stuff like this! Good submission.

it certainly does, good work.

what would be really helpful though, is a .dxf/.stl/.blend file of the
case of the neo - i'm itching to get making an alternative case for
when my GTA02 arrives, there are a few mods i would like to see
already

see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:Neo1973:Alternate_Cases

for a start that some of us have made on the wiki. is anyone with a
GTA01 up for whipping out their micrometer/3d scanner and knocking
something together?
even better, is anyone at FIC/openmoko able and willing to provide us
with detailed drawings of the case?

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