Re: New user saying hi

2008-08-12 Thread Chris Barnard

- Original Message - 
From: Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've bought a Neo Freerunner and debug board - all looks pretty good so
 far. This is my first real use of Linux and I'm beginning to feel like
 I'm throwing myself off the deep end a bit, but I'm a self-taught

 Congrats on making it this far.  Believe me when I say that as a
 programmer you might find it difficult to go back to whatever non-unixy
 OS you used to use.  It's addictive. ;)

Thanks, it must be pretty addictive as I was up until gone 3am messing 
around with the thing! I was a bit late to work this morning ;)


 What really interested me about this project however was the possibility
 that I might be able to get into the user interface development a bit. I
 have a few ideas for a mobile GUI that I'd like to put into practice. So

 I think you should probably get started with themes.  In the various
 windowing toolkits that are in use there are themes that control how
 widgets are drawn and such.  For example, the GTK theme files are here:

 /usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc

 See this ML post:

 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/025711.html

 There should be similar mechanisms for theming the other toolkits, such
 as qtopia somewhere as well.

Thanks for this.. I'm finding it a bit difficult to get to the right 
information at the moment, but I think I'm getting the hang of it.

 So, that allows you to control the appearance of the existing widgets
 and such.  Next you'll need to actually start changing the code of the
 apps that actually draw the widgets.  You'll need to download the
 development environment and start looking at the code.  Which is beyond
 my abilities right now, but there is a bit of info floating around on
 the ML and in the wiki about getting this all set up.

 HTH! :)

 Cheers,

 Rob

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New user saying hi

2008-08-11 Thread chris.barnard
Hi All,
   
  I don't usually use mailing lists, so I hope it's not bad etiquette just to 
say hi!
   
  I've bought a Neo Freerunner and debug board - all looks pretty good so far. 
This is my first real use of Linux and I'm beginning to feel like I'm throwing 
myself off the deep end a bit, but I'm a self-taught programmer by profession 
so hopefully I can get the hang of it. I've tried out the Qtopia GTA02 release 
and now the OM2008.08 release, finally managed to get connected to the internet 
and am just working my way through a few installers.
   
  What really interested me about this project however was the possibility that 
I might be able to get into the user interface development a bit. I have a few 
ideas for a mobile GUI that I'd like to put into practice. So far, most of my 
research has brought up details on building applications, but very little on 
messing about with interface underneath. Is there currently an SDK or any form 
of information that can help me get started with this? I hope I haven't missed 
any FAQs or something obvious, but I really have been searching for days!
   
  Thanks,
   
  Chris.
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Re: New user saying hi

2008-08-11 Thread Robert William Hutton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't usually use mailing lists, so I hope it's not bad etiquette just 
 to say hi!

Probably.  But you're not just saying hi, you've got a couple of good 
questions here.

 I've bought a Neo Freerunner and debug board - all looks pretty good so 
 far. This is my first real use of Linux and I'm beginning to feel like 
 I'm throwing myself off the deep end a bit, but I'm a self-taught 

Congrats on making it this far.  Believe me when I say that as a 
programmer you might find it difficult to go back to whatever non-unixy 
OS you used to use.  It's addictive. ;)

 What really interested me about this project however was the possibility 
 that I might be able to get into the user interface development a bit. I 
 have a few ideas for a mobile GUI that I'd like to put into practice. So 

I think you should probably get started with themes.  In the various 
windowing toolkits that are in use there are themes that control how 
widgets are drawn and such.  For example, the GTK theme files are here:

/usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc

See this ML post:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/025711.html

There should be similar mechanisms for theming the other toolkits, such 
as qtopia somewhere as well.

So, that allows you to control the appearance of the existing widgets 
and such.  Next you'll need to actually start changing the code of the 
apps that actually draw the widgets.  You'll need to download the 
development environment and start looking at the code.  Which is beyond 
my abilities right now, but there is a bit of info floating around on 
the ML and in the wiki about getting this all set up.

HTH! :)

Cheers,

Rob

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