Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-07 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Warren Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Hmm.   In this thread: http://n2.nabble.com/Buzz-fix-difficulty--was-Re%3A-US-Buzz-GPS-Fix--tp2679871p2733711.html Joerg states that the -a7 version is the only 'real' state file. I also tried

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-06 Thread Angus Ainslie
On June 5, 2009 02:31:16 am Patryk Benderz wrote: Looks like these: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ are the same images i downloaded last time, May 21st. Am i looking for them at right place? The testing images haven't changed but the unstable ones have had

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-06 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 23:31, Warren Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I've had better luck starting with http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state - it's one of several that I've seen identified as 'the one true statefile'... If you still get buzz, then

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Do remember that each FR is a bit unique in the audio side - it's possible that the best alsastate for YOUR fr isn't around and you have to make some adjustments yourself.. I think that every FR is possible to make sound good after the buzz fix but it might involve some playing with alsamixer. r

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-04 Thread tammaro pamdirac palombo
I try to use Om2009 but for me is unusable (call audio quality). I like paroli but I must use FR like a phone. I hope that the buzz fix solves this problem. bye ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-04 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:00:29PM +0200, tammaro pamdirac palombo wrote: I try to use Om2009 but for me is unusable (call audio quality). I like paroli but I must use FR like a phone. I hope that the buzz fix solves this problem. While you don't get it, this alsa state file improves things a

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-04 Thread Warren Baird
I've had better luck starting with http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state - it's one of several that I've seen identified as 'the one true statefile'... If you still get buzz, then try dropping 'control.5' (Mono Playback Volume) - to around 85 or 90. That might

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-04 Thread tammaro pamdirac palombo
thanks, I'll try it tomorrow On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: I've had better luck starting with http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state - it's one of several that I've seen identified as 'the one true

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 25 May 2009 17:20:08 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: I'm sure it's not, AFAICT (since I don't know Parloi's internals) it doesn't touch anything Paroli or anything related to calls. As for your problem with landscape vs portrait positions and GUIs... well, that's a

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-01 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:21:15PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2009 17:20:08 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: I'm sure it's not, AFAICT (since I don't know Parloi's internals) it doesn't touch anything Paroli or anything related to calls. As for

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:10:41 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:21:15PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2009 17:20:08 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: I'm sure it's not, AFAICT (since I don't know Parloi's

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-01 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 07:24:22PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:10:41 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:21:15PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2009 17:20:08 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-01 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:59:00AM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 07:24:22PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:10:41 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:21:15PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-01 Thread Warren Baird
Hi Rask, I'm afraid I have no idea which X server and touch screen driver were in use. I was using OM2009 TR3 and hadn't modified the X server at all, if that helps. The behaviour was that sometime when I rotated the device with omrotatenew the touch pad response would be about 1.5cm to the

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:12:41 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: My experience is that most applications become almost unusable because things are simply compressed beyond what is usable, so they need to do something themselves. Merely having the interface scaled down

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-31 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 05:20:08PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:08:33PM -0400, Warren Baird wrote: I had another experience with epdfview where when I held the FR horizontally I had to click about 1.5 cm to the right of the 'next page' button to get it to

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-30 Thread Ben Wong
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Ben Wong wrote: 2d) There is too much latency between pressing the AUX button during a call and any indication that the system is working on changing the volume.  Ideally, what I'd like the GUI to show me is not what

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-30 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/30 Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net: B also sounds like it'd be tricky to do correctly. What happens if the user immediately tries to make another call (or use GPRS or SMS) and the previous call hasn't yet finished? as it's unavoidable at this point to interfere with the user's

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-27 Thread matthias
Risto H. Kurppa schrieb: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: 2d) There is too much latency between pressing the AUX button during a call and any indication that the system is working on changing the volume. Ideally, what I'd like the GUI to show me is

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-27 Thread pike
Hi In addition to this, in some situations one could add to 0.5s: 'user presses AUX again since there was no response when he first pressed it' happens to me all the time :-) This is an issue happening in several places in paroli. The interface is very honest in the sense that it only

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread roby
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: to miss the call. I had another experience with epdfview where when I held the FR horizontally I had to click about 1.5 cm to the right of the 'next page' button to get it to actually go to the next page. After

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread Warren Baird
sweet - I'll check that out... I must admit that with the illume top bar, and the epdfview menu and toolbar, there wasn't much real-estate left... Thanks for the tip. Warren On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM, roby hariseldo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Warren Baird

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: 2d) There is too much latency between pressing the AUX button during a call and any indication that the system is working on changing the volume. Ideally, what I'd like the GUI to show me is not what the current volume

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-25 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Sorry for the delay in answering, I was at a conference over the weekend. Ben Wong wrote: Thanks for the update. Unfortunately Om2009 is still not a usable phone out of the box for me. I realize that this is probably my fault for not persevering, but I will be reverting to SHR since

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-25 Thread Marc Bantle
Angus Ainslie schrieb: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 How about new GTA01 images? A new kernel has been supplied, I see. Cheers, Marc

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-25 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Marc Bantle openm...@rcie.de wrote: How about new GTA01 images? A new kernel has been supplied, I see. You can start with http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/Neo1973/ and http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta01/ :) r -- |

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-25 Thread Marc Bantle
Risto H. Kurppa schrieb: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Marc Bantle openm...@rcie.de wrote: How about new GTA01 images? A new kernel has been supplied, I see. You can start with http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/Neo1973/ and

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-25 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:25:09PM +0200, Mirko Lindner wrote: 2d) There is too much latency between pressing the AUX button during a call and any indication that the system is working on changing the volume. Ideally, what I'd like the GUI to show me is not what the current volume is, but

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-25 Thread Warren Baird
Rui - I'm not sure if omnewrotate was causing the general unstability - but I do think it was probably what caused me to miss the call. I had another experience with epdfview where when I held the FR horizontally I had to click about 1.5 cm to the right of the 'next page' button to get it to

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-25 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
I'm sure it's not, AFAICT (since I don't know Parloi's internals) it doesn't touch anything Paroli or anything related to calls. As for your problem with landscape vs portrait positions and GUIs... well, that's a problem that's not easy to solve unless all applications pay attention to a

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-24 Thread Hans Zimmerman
Hans Zimmerman wrote: Ben Wong wrote: Thanks for the update. Unfortunately Om2009 is still not a usable phone out of the box for me. I realize that this is probably my fault for not persevering, but I will be reverting to SHR since this is my only phone. Here are my issues, in order of

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-24 Thread Warren Baird
I'm afraid my experience with TR4 wasn't that great. I installed it Friday night, and played with it enough to make sure that I could make and receive calls. I must admit that after using QtE it was nice to be able to install software like a pdf reader and mokomaze. However, The first real call

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-24 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 05:14:01PM -0400, Warren Baird wrote: I'm afraid my experience with TR4 wasn't that great. I installed it Friday night, and played with it enough to make sure that I could make and receive calls. I must admit that after using QtE it was nice to be able to install

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-23 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:38:35PM -0700, Ben Wong wrote: Thanks for the update. Unfortunately Om2009 is still not a usable 3) There is no way to reset Paroli if it gets wedged. At one point, it refused to allow me to make a call because it thought there was already one in progress. Not

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-23 Thread Hans Zimmerman
Ben Wong wrote: Thanks for the update. Unfortunately Om2009 is still not a usable phone out of the box for me. I realize that this is probably my fault for not persevering, but I will be reverting to SHR since this is my only phone. Here are my issues, in order of importance: 1)

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 04:16:23PM -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:33:31PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Problem at Display-Profile: can't get back to illume, illume, paroli or paroli-illume all look exactly the same Mirko

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-22 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional instructions here. thanks to angus and all behind this. i note paroli goes to gitr46. initial impressions are very good, though

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-22 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Thursday, 21 de May de 2009 21:34:48 Angus Ainslie va escriure: Don't bother trying to do an opkg update opkg upgrade to do the upgrade. Chances are you won't get the dependencies right ( I know I didn't ). If you want to preserve your settings use the bind-home method and flash the full

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-22 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/22 Jose Luis Perez Diez jl...@escomposlinux.org: I was using the previous realease as a test-bed for a document I am preparing. I want to show how to use the toolchain and distcc to develop on the neo, my root fs is 0.5G without the swapfile, and runing the test suite of distcc3.1 to

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-22 Thread Ben Wong
Thanks for the update. Unfortunately Om2009 is still not a usable phone out of the box for me. I realize that this is probably my fault for not persevering, but I will be reverting to SHR since this is my only phone. Here are my issues, in order of importance: 1) Horrible audio distortion

Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
Congratulations! I'm downloading right now and will report back. I'm very impressed with the rate of revisions. Michael Shiloh Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. You've only updated the rootfs, right? So no changes in the wifi driver? M ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread George Brooke
On Thursday 21 May 2009 20:34:48 Angus Ainslie wrote: New features Improved call handling - should limit races in oeventsd Better list handling More consistent interface New paroli-illume theme - only change so far is to remove desktop switcher - wanted volunteer to change

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Awesome Angus Mirko - can't wait to get testing this :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread tammaro pamdirac palombo
fso-paroli-image-om- 8% |*** I'm waiting :) On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Awesome Angus Mirko - can't wait to get testing this :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 01:48:44 pm Michael Shiloh wrote: Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. You've only updated the rootfs, right? So no changes in the wifi driver? M Right you could try the experimental

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread OpenMitko
It is a midnight here, but I can't wait till tomorrow... flashing... :) 2009/5/21 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional instructions here.

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Problem at Display-Profile: can't get back to illume, illume, paroli or paroli-illume all look exactly the same On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:34:48PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:33:31PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Problem at Display-Profile: can't get back to illume, illume, paroli or paroli-illume all look exactly the same Mirko told me all you need is to reboot (first boot problems ... I really can't understand that) for it to

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:34:48PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: - wanted volunteer to change analog clock to digital I just removed the analog clock, on the paroli-illume profile you still have the nice paroli clock and the analog isn't really very readable for me (due to size). Having a

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:33:31PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Problem at Display-Profile: can't get back to illume, illume, paroli or paroli-illume all look exactly the same Mirko told me all you need is to reboot (first boot problems ... I really