Re: Operation without battery (GTA02) / sysfs wiki page

2008-07-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 23. Juli 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | | Is there a Wiki page or docs that explain what each register is and > | the units it refers to? > | | especially in the .../power_supply/bat/... area which seems to have > | very pertinent information. >

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> |> And temp in 0.25 Kelvin |> |> steps --> Celcius in 0.1 steps. But this is basically scaling up |> |> operation and you see otherwise unm

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > wrote: | | That's right, to start Freerunner needs a battery in and the battery | needs some decent charge

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Dale Schumacher
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's right, to start Freerunner needs a battery in and the battery > needs some decent charge left in it, for the reason briefly during > startup it needs to eat more current that it is allowed via USB. It > causes a "brow

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I also tried 2) and can confirm this. It sounds like it tries to power on, | but does not have enough power. I think it is not so strange, since the | charger cannot provide enough current. Remember that th

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02) / sysfs wiki page

2008-07-23 Thread Michael Shiloh
Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | | Is there a Wiki page or docs that explain what each register is and > | the units it refers to? > | | especially in the .../power_supply/bat/... area which seems to have >

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 2008-07-23, Yorick Moko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i can reproduce "2" > but i won't do it again :) > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Alexey Feldgendler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have two 100% reproducible issues with my GTA02. > > > > 1. When running with the battery in (charged

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Yorick Moko
i can reproduce "2" but i won't do it again :) On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have two 100% reproducible issues with my GTA02. > > 1. When running with the battery in (charged enough) and a USB cable > plugged into a computer, removing the batte

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Andy Green wrote: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > |> And temp in 0.25 Kelvin > |> steps --> Celcius in 0.1 steps. But this is basically scaling up > |> operation and you see otherwise unmassaged data. > | > | ? > | 1K step = 1 degree Celsius step > > "Scaling up operation" refers t

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02) / sysfs wiki page

2008-07-23 Thread Jim Morris
Andy Green wrote: > > I made a start on documenting the more interesting /sys files here: > > ~ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs > Excellent thank you exactly what I was looking for! -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko com

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> And temp in 0.25 Kelvin |> steps --> Celcius in 0.1 steps. But this is basically scaling up |> operation and you see otherwise unmassaged data. | | ? | 1K step = 1 degree Celsius step "Scaling up operatio

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
> And temp in 0.25 Kelvin > steps --> Celcius in 0.1 steps. But this is basically scaling up > operation and you see otherwise unmassaged data. ? 1K step = 1 degree Celsius step -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.op

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02) / sysfs wiki page

2008-07-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> I made a start on documenting the more interesting /sys files here: |> |> ~ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs | | nice! | i fiddled around with ...leds/.../trigger (actually, i modified the | sysfsu

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02) / sysfs wiki page

2008-07-23 Thread arne anka
> I made a start on documenting the more interesting /sys files here: > > ~ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs nice! i fiddled around with ...leds/.../trigger (actually, i modified the sysfsutils script from debian to run on the fr, will post this evening) and set blue to full and orang

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02) / sysfs wiki page

2008-07-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | Is there a Wiki page or docs that explain what each register is and | the units it refers to? | | especially in the .../power_supply/bat/... area which seems to have | very pertinent information. | | I th

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | |> Jeffrey, if you are interested about what the battery experiences, there |> are a bunch of goodies from the Coulomb Counter in the battery |> accessible down /sys/class/power_supply/ba

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Morris
Andy Green wrote: > Jeffrey, if you are interested about what the battery experiences, there > are a bunch of goodies from the Coulomb Counter in the battery > accessible down /sys/class/power_supply/bat, just cat them. These tell > you the battery's view of what is going on directly. > > # cat

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | "Jeffrey Malone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | |> I've actually been able to run the phone without a battery. I booted it, |> plugged in the wall charger, and removed the battery. |> It sat working for an i

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-18 Thread Olivier Berger
"Jeffrey Malone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've actually been able to run the phone without a battery. I booted it, > plugged in the wall charger, and removed the battery. > It sat working for an indefinite period of time, while registered to the GSM > network and with GPS and wifi on (I was

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 2008-07-18, Thomas Seiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |>> | What's the advantage of enabling the charger? |>> |>> Well without it literally it won't charge the battery from USB power. |>> It's fine to enab

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 2008-07-18, Thomas Seiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | What's the advantage of enabling the charger? > > > > Well without it literally it won't charge the battery from USB power. > > It's fine to enable it except when it notices there is no battery there > > for some reason. > > Question: Wo

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Thomas Seiler
> | What's the advantage of enabling the charger? > > Well without it literally it won't charge the battery from USB power. > It's fine to enable it except when it notices there is no battery there > for some reason. Question: Would it help to query the ADC and check for some battery voltage prior

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Jeffrey Malone
I've actually been able to run the phone without a battery. I booted it, plugged in the wall charger, and removed the battery. It sat working for an indefinite period of time, while registered to the GSM network and with GPS and wifi on (I was testing to see if removing the battery could aid GPS).

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:19:13 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> I ran without a battery for many weeks earlier in the year. It seems to |> be specifically if we enable the PMU charger with no

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:19:13 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I ran without a battery for many weeks earlier in the year. It seems to > be specifically if we enable the PMU charger with no battery, it freaks > out and goes to PMU STANDBY state. Earlier in the year, we didn't > enab

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:07:51 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |>>> Probably GSM trying to pull ~2A for transmitting. |>>> This will make the device shut down instantly. |>>> Try disabling GSM!

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:07:51 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Probably GSM trying to pull ~2A for transmitting. >>> This will make the device shut down instantly. >>> Try disabling GSM! >> Turning GSM off from the power menu didn't help. >> Besides, I don't even have a SIM card in

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:54:41 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wrote: | |>> 1. When running with the battery in (charged enough) and a USB cable |>> plugged into a computer, removing the battery

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:54:41 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 1. When running with the battery in (charged enough) and a USB cable >> plugged into a computer, removing the battery makes the phone die. It >> seems to turn off several seconds after the battery is removed. >

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-16 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 16. Juli 2008 schrieb Alexey Feldgendler: > I have two 100% reproducible issues with my GTA02. > > 1. When running with the battery in (charged enough) and a USB cable > plugged into a computer, removing the battery makes the phone die. It > seems to turn off several seconds after the b

Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-16 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
I have two 100% reproducible issues with my GTA02. 1. When running with the battery in (charged enough) and a USB cable plugged into a computer, removing the battery makes the phone die. It seems to turn off several seconds after the battery is removed. If the battery is replaced quickly eno