Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-05 Thread Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger

Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger wrote:


I made some nx packages for openmoko a while ago but never got around to 
test them. I did get nxcl and it's respective dependencies to compile 
without errors. If anybody is interested let me know.


The packages are now available from the following git repository:

git clone git://openmoko.technodrom.ch/openmoko-overlay/

Feedback and of course patches are always welcome :)

-Adrian

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Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 31, 2008 3:31 PM, joerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> *) So it seems you're talking about X. Don't you? (Well "terse" is relative)
> something like

X is rather low-level.

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Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Henrik Pihl
I would be interested :)

2008/2/3, Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hello,
>
> Al Johnson wrote:
> > On Thursday 31 January 2008, Lally Singh wrote:
> >> On Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM, joerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Am Do  31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge:
> >>> [...]
> >>>
>  My
>  goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running
>  on app servers, using a terse UI meta-language *) to transfer the
>  user-interaction parts of the apps to the thin client (more or less,
>  depending on the processing power/bandwidth tradeoffs on the client
>  side).
> >>> *) So it seems you're talking about X. Don't you? (Well "terse" is
> >>> relative) something like
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ssh -X -l itsME myserver.dyndns.org konqueror
> >> Eh, these days it's probably better off being AJAX based.  X widget
> >> sets haven't been designed for good use over slower network links in
> >> ages.  May as well take advantage of web standards, and we can likely
> >> avoid having to write/invent anything specifically for the neo.
> >
> > NX anyone? The nxcl libs should make it fairly easy to do a front end
> for
> > OpenMoko. It works well on restricted bandwidth and can be used for
> either
> > individual apps or a whole desktop.
>
> I made some nx packages for openmoko a while ago but never got around to
> test them. I did get nxcl and it's respective dependencies to compile
> without errors. If anybody is interested let me know.
>
> -Adrian
>
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Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger

Hello,

Al Johnson wrote:

On Thursday 31 January 2008, Lally Singh wrote:

On Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM, joerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Am Do  31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge:
[...]


My
goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running
on app servers, using a terse UI meta-language *) to transfer the
user-interaction parts of the apps to the thin client (more or less,
depending on the processing power/bandwidth tradeoffs on the client
side).

*) So it seems you're talking about X. Don't you? (Well "terse" is
relative) something like
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ssh -X -l itsME myserver.dyndns.org konqueror

Eh, these days it's probably better off being AJAX based.  X widget
sets haven't been designed for good use over slower network links in
ages.  May as well take advantage of web standards, and we can likely
avoid having to write/invent anything specifically for the neo.


NX anyone? The nxcl libs should make it fairly easy to do a front end for 
OpenMoko. It works well on restricted bandwidth and can be used for either 
individual apps or a whole desktop.


I made some nx packages for openmoko a while ago but never got around to 
test them. I did get nxcl and it's respective dependencies to compile 
without errors. If anybody is interested let me know.


-Adrian

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Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 31 January 2008, Lally Singh wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM, joerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am Do  31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge:
> > [...]
> >
> > > My
> > > goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running
> > > on app servers, using a terse UI meta-language *) to transfer the
> > > user-interaction parts of the apps to the thin client (more or less,
> > > depending on the processing power/bandwidth tradeoffs on the client
> > > side).
> >
> > *) So it seems you're talking about X. Don't you? (Well "terse" is
> > relative) something like
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ssh -X -l itsME myserver.dyndns.org konqueror
>
> Eh, these days it's probably better off being AJAX based.  X widget
> sets haven't been designed for good use over slower network links in
> ages.  May as well take advantage of web standards, and we can likely
> avoid having to write/invent anything specifically for the neo.

NX anyone? The nxcl libs should make it fairly easy to do a front end for 
OpenMoko. It works well on restricted bandwidth and can be used for either 
individual apps or a whole desktop.

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Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-01-31 Thread Lally Singh
On Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM, joerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Do  31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge:
> [...]
> > My
> > goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running
> > on app servers, using a terse UI meta-language *) to transfer the
> > user-interaction parts of the apps to the thin client (more or less,
> > depending on the processing power/bandwidth tradeoffs on the client
> > side).
>
> *) So it seems you're talking about X. Don't you? (Well "terse" is relative)
> something like
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ssh -X -l itsME myserver.dyndns.org konqueror

Eh, these days it's probably better off being AJAX based.  X widget
sets haven't been designed for good use over slower network links in
ages.  May as well take advantage of web standards, and we can likely
avoid having to write/invent anything specifically for the neo.

-- 
H. Lally Singh
Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science
Virginia Tech

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Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-01-31 Thread joerg
Am Do  31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge:
[...]
> My
> goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running
> on app servers, using a terse UI meta-language *) to transfer the
> user-interaction parts of the apps to the thin client (more or less,
> depending on the processing power/bandwidth tradeoffs on the client
> side).

*) So it seems you're talking about X. Don't you? (Well "terse" is relative)
something like
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ssh -X -l itsME myserver.dyndns.org konqueror

j

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Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-01-31 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 31, 2008 7:54 AM, Jeffrey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/01/31/130245.shtml
>
> Basically, using a mobile phone as a thin client.  This would be great if one 
> could enter a specific

Basically that project appears to be about image recognition, for
non-Asians to identify stuff at the Asian market.  :-)  Personally I
could use that feature sometimes but we don't have a camera on the
phone...   But more seriously Accenture appears to be a consulting
company so the solution is not likely to be very universal; they would
tend to look for specific business customers with specific narrow
needs right?

But yes the broader idea of using a phone as a thin client is
interesting.  Nowadays people tend to think the browser is the
ultimate platform for that (it has JavaScript and the ability to send
and receive chunks of XML over HTTP, and maybe even Flash... whoohoo!)
so there you go... thin client.   (Google and Apple think that's a
satisfying answer.)  There is Rebol; if only it were more free it
might have had a chance, but then again it's another language so that
raises the barrier to entry.  I wrote a generic Java thin-client
applet at one job a few years ago, but it's not free software
unfortunately (again, specific customer with specific needs and they
didn't let me release the code, despite its broader applicability) and
anyway it was a Java/XML thing... not as optimized as it can be.  My
goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running
on app servers, using a terse UI meta-language to transfer the
user-interaction parts of the apps to the thin client (more or less,
depending on the processing power/bandwidth tradeoffs on the client
side).

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Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/01/31/130245.shtml

Basically, using a mobile phone as a thin client.  This would be great if one 
could enter a specific server to connect to, so that individual users could 
supply a home IP (or Dynamic DNS domain) which would do the necessary 
processing for them, and business users could do the same, plugging in the IP 
or domain of a work server, where the business users could share resources 
pertenant to their company...


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