I'm getting an uneasy feeling about the GTA01 power management issues, the
questions has been asked more then once in this forum, but I havn't seen any
answeres. Is openmoko trying to put the lid on or what ?
/Fredrik
On Thu, Feb 7, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Tim Niemeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello,
as i understood correctly in GTA02 are new PCF and CPU. So it's possible
that the problems in GTA01 aren't in GTA02.
But the question from frederik is still unansweared. Michael any news?
* Fredrik Markström [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-01-08 17:28]:
Michael, any progress on this issue ?
That sucks...
If I buy a GTA-02 and it has hardware issues, will your attention to such
issues
be down-prioritized in favor of the (by then) next generation hardware ?
I really thought I did buy fully functional hardware in the GTA-01. Instead
i had
to wait forever for the GPS-stuff and now it
details of what you can and cannot expect of these
devices.
I have been warned!
/quote
Tore
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Emne: Re: Power Management on Neo1973
On Jan 31, 2008 2:18 PM, Tore Dalaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Hi Tony,
That's an excellent question. Fortunately it has a simple answer.
The answer to your question is that we, OpenMoko, do understand the
power management issues, and it has been addressed in GTA02.
The unknown parts are that I, personally, don't know exactly what caused
this problem,
Just curious how you can be certain this issue has been resolved in GTA02
if you cannot answer this question?
If you dont know how GTA01 can be fixed, how do you know GTA02 is fixed?
Or maybe GTA02 has this same issue?
please advise
Fredrik Markström wrote:
Michael, any progress on this
Fredrik Markström wrote:
Michael, any progress on this issue ?
Hi Fredrik,
Sorry, not yet. I'm afraid this is not at the top of the priorities
right now. We recognize that it is highly important but our main focus
is always on getting GTA02 out.
Hopefully shortly we will be able to
Michael, any progress on this issue ? Will the GTA-01 ever be usable as an
everyday-phone, or
is the hardware to broken ?
/Fredrik
On Jan 14, 2008 8:24 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Niemeyer wrote:
On another Thread was this:
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And please do get my message right -
Michael Shiloh schrieb:
Nicolas Linkert wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0100, Nils Faerber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
snip
So buttomline is I would not see it *that* black. Let's hope for the new
modem firmware since the modem is currently the biggest standby current
eater.
I was under
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Tim Niemeyer schrieb:
Hallo Nils,
Hi!
i searched on this, but didn't found what i though about...
found something else:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/buglog/2007-September/005155.html
Good catch, thanks!
And there was some explanation in that or close thread as well.
Puh, so it was not
Hallo Nils,
* Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-01-08 11:36]:
i searched on this, but didn't found what i though about...
found something else:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/buglog/2007-September/005155.html
Good catch, thanks!
And there was some explanation in that or close
Tim Niemeyer wrote:
On another Thread was this:
---
And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new firmware will
also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused by the
firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix.
Can anybody from Openmoko
Nicolas Linkert wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0100, Nils Faerber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
snip
So buttomline is I would not see it *that* black. Let's hope for the new
modem firmware since the modem is currently the biggest standby current
eater.
I was under the impression that the
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0100, Nils Faerber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
snip
So buttomline is I would not see it *that* black. Let's hope for the new
modem firmware since the modem is currently the biggest standby current
eater.
I was under the impression that the last modem update occured
Now it's about 14 hours later and I'm seeing the same kind of numbers
from /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/chgcur:
800-1700. I guess that means the battery is still not fully charged.
OK I'll reboot with the current probe installed and take some more measurements:
Le jeudi 10 janvier 2008 à 22:40 +0100, Tim Niemeyer a écrit :
Today, i played a bit with power measurement and standby.
It was very surprising, and the actual power was very different from time
to time. Sometimes neo booted and did draw about 400mA in idle. Sometimes only
280mA.
In Standby
I was thinking of
cutting a strip of thin, double-sided PC board material and sticking
it between one battery contact and the corresponding phone contact,
then connect a current meter between the two planes of that strip.
Alu-stickytape applied on both sides of a thin plastic, e.g. from a
Tim Niemeyer schrieb:
Hallo Shawn,
Hi!
* Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-01-08 14:19]:
Well what's the best uptime on battery that has been seen so far, with
unmodified phones and with an existing software image? I see less
than 20 minutes when I'm trying to just use it as a GPS
On Jan 10, 2008 2:57 PM, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah. I wonder if the battery has deteriorated somehow (from the
phone running and being plugged in to USB for days or weeks at a time,
and being overcharged? but the power management chip should not
overcharge it, right?), or
Hi,
I sent this to FIC:
before I do that [send my device back to FIC and exchange it],
I'll need to find out the following:
Question:
I have been following the improving power management conversation on
the IRC logs and on
Hi,
from openmoko.com shop page :
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time. Read this wiki
articlehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Developer_previewto find more
technical details of what
Hi,
Powermanagement isn't only suspend2ram! There are also other things!
What are the hardware problems in GTA01, preventing it from using it as a
phone?
* Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-01-08 10:47]:
Hi,
I sent this to FIC:
On 10/01/2008, Maciej Kaniewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What you CAN NOT expect yet
reliable means of making phone calls, esp. not from the UI
reliable means of sending/receiving SMS, esp. not from the UI
integrated GPRS data access
bluetooth integration (basic bluez driver works)
I think your jumping the gun quite a bit
All we know at the moment is that there *is* a hardware bug.
We dont know;
A) If the hardware bug is bypassable in software
B) If the hardware is fixable by us. I did read somewhere that it was
an 'incorrect resistor' problem. If this is true
and the
Well what's the best uptime on battery that has been seen so far, with
unmodified phones and with an existing software image? I see less
than 20 minutes when I'm trying to just use it as a GPS (logging track
points). GSM talk time ought to even be longer than that, but this is
without being
Hallo Shawn,
* Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-01-08 14:19]:
Well what's the best uptime on battery that has been seen so far, with
unmodified phones and with an existing software image? I see less
than 20 minutes when I'm trying to just use it as a GPS (logging track
points). GSM talk
On Jan 10, 2008 2:40 PM, Tim Niemeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with actual battery you need to minimize the power consumption to 10mA for 5h
lifetime!
It's supposed to be a 1200mAH battery, so 1200/5 is 240mA, to get a 5
hour lifetime, right?
When i was GPS logging for OSM (Navit with map
Hi,
I have been following the improving power management conversation on
the IRC logs and on this list but am still not clear if it is only a
software problem (suspend issues, devices not shutting off when being closed
etc.)or there are Major hardware issues involved (I am talking about the
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