Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 19:05, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: 2009/4/22 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net: Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: I am trying to expand range of accessories to the Openmoko Freerunner, I hope you enjoy it. Thank you very much. Any chance you could start selling Y-cables (USB cables that make it possible to charge neo while using usb devices at the same time)? This would be very useful when using usb 3G stick. I don't want to unplug it when I charge the phone since then I'd the connection would drop. +1 for a keyboard like this one that is connected via USB and offers an USB 'in' and USB 'out' port for simultaniously charging and using a 3G stick. If you find something like that I will be happy to add in my catalog :) Like this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables#How_to_make_a_USB_cable_for_powering_attached_USB_devices_and_charging_the_Neo_while_in_host_mode_.28aka_Y-Cable.29 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
Christoph Pulster wrote: Thanks to David Samblas, who wrote the Wiki for Bluetooth Keyboard: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard we have stock up with the Freedom Ltd. Slim Keyboard. A bit too slim for my use. I remap my keyboards to Norwegian, but that requires another key to the right of p, and two keys to the right of l. These positions don't exist on that keyboard. The freedom universal keyboard from the same site was more promising. English layout for the moment, but at least there are enough extra keys that the important key positions can be remapped. Other language layouts are coming. It is not much bigger than the FR when folded up, and seems to have a stand that holds the phone too. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
Woo, fantastic :) I like it. On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 11:43 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Christoph Pulster wrote: Thanks to David Samblas, who wrote the Wiki for Bluetooth Keyboard: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard we have stock up with the Freedom Ltd. Slim Keyboard. A bit too slim for my use. I remap my keyboards to Norwegian, but that requires another key to the right of p, and two keys to the right of l. These positions don't exist on that keyboard. The freedom universal keyboard from the same site was more promising. English layout for the moment, but at least there are enough extra keys that the important key positions can be remapped. Other language layouts are coming. It is not much bigger than the FR when folded up, and seems to have a stand that holds the phone too. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/4/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: But I was wondering it if it can be powered from USB when the battery is full. And if not, how efficient it is to charge and discharge the battery at the same time. yes, i thought as much -- and was wondering why that should be totally unreasonable (and why the idea did not occur to other peoples). I just think that if it will be wired together will be more energy efficient to have an usb keyboard than a bt keyboard+bt neo antenna+neo battery drained by the keyboard , nevertheless I will try to measure how high is that drainage on charge and when battery is full charged when I got some free time If you remove/disable/don't-use the caps lock, scroll lock and num lock LEDs, the power consumption of an external USB keyboard will be minimal. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: I am trying to expand range of accessories to the Openmoko Freerunner, I hope you enjoy it. Thank you very much. Any chance you could start selling Y-cables (USB cables that make it possible to charge neo while using usb devices at the same time)? This would be very useful when using usb 3G stick. I don't want to unplug it when I charge the phone since then I'd the connection would drop. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
2009/4/22 Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de: Thanks to David Samblas, who wrote the Wiki for Bluetooth Keyboard: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard we have stock up with the Freedom Ltd. Slim Keyboard. I will update with lastest SHR testing,OM2009 beta, and QTEi in short Manufacturer: http://www.freedominput.com/site/ index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=137Itemid=140 Pulster Shop: http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?d_834.htm Tuxbrain shop http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=50 I am trying to expand range of accessories to the Openmoko Freerunner, As you also know you can count always with my helping hand on it. :) I hope you enjoy it. Christoph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: Thanks to David Samblas, who wrote the Wiki for Bluetooth Keyboard: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard we have stock up with the Freedom Ltd. Slim Keyboard. How much does the keyboard consume if I power it entirely with usb power from the phone? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: Thanks to David Samblas, who wrote the Wiki for Bluetooth Keyboard: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard we have stock up with the Freedom Ltd. Slim Keyboard. How much does the keyboard consume if I power it entirely with usb power from the phone? Since it's bluetooth, it probably has its own batteries. Having a bluetooth keyboard that is powered by a cable seems a bit... overkill. Christ van Willegen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com writes: Since it's bluetooth, it probably has its own batteries. Having a bluetooth keyboard that is powered by a cable seems a bit... overkill. I'd still like to know how much it consumes if it is connected to USB permanently. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
Timo, I agree with Christ about what a wired BT keyboard seems :) ,but all this is about freedom of choise , and what the ... I'm curiouse too, so I will try to satisfy you, I will try it short with a tester connected to my pc, totally discharged, middle charged, full charged and in use and stanby. Sorry but I preffer to not do it on the neo directly I love it too much :) 2009/4/22 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com writes: Since it's bluetooth, it probably has its own batteries. Having a bluetooth keyboard that is powered by a cable seems a bit... overkill. I'd still like to know how much it consumes if it is connected to USB permanently. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
Timo, I agree with Christ about what a wired BT keyboard seems :) what's wrong with you guys? the description clearly states it is rechargeable via usb -- so, how is asking for the current taken in any way unreasonable? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes: Timo, I agree with Christ about what a wired BT keyboard seems :) what's wrong with you guys? the description clearly states it is rechargeable via usb -- so, how is asking for the current taken in any way unreasonable? But I was wondering it if it can be powered from USB when the battery is full. And if not, how efficient it is to charge and discharge the battery at the same time. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: I'd still like to know how much it consumes if it is connected to USB permanently. Good question Timo. Please drop a ticket to the manufactorer: http://freedom.helpserve.com/index.php You can there also the Quickstart Guide for the Slim Keyboard. It's now at http://freedom.helpserve.com/index.php?_m=tickets_a=viewticketticketid=29948 Here's a copy: Freedom Slim Keypad - Install and quickstart guide does not mention anything about what happens if I keep the keyboard permanently connected to USB of my phone. Does the battery constantly charge and discharge? How much current will it draw in this scenario? I'd like to keep the keyboard connected to my phone (openmoko neo freerunner) at all times when it is possible so that I need to stress the battery only when I really can not usb usb cable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: I am trying to expand range of accessories to the Openmoko Freerunner, I hope you enjoy it. Thank you very much. Any chance you could start selling Y-cables (USB cables that make it possible to charge neo while using usb devices at the same time)? This would be very useful when using usb 3G stick. I don't want to unplug it when I charge the phone since then I'd the connection would drop. +1 for a keyboard like this one that is connected via USB and offers an USB 'in' and USB 'out' port for simultaniously charging and using a 3G stick. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
2009/4/22 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net: Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: I am trying to expand range of accessories to the Openmoko Freerunner, I hope you enjoy it. Thank you very much. Any chance you could start selling Y-cables (USB cables that make it possible to charge neo while using usb devices at the same time)? This would be very useful when using usb 3G stick. I don't want to unplug it when I charge the phone since then I'd the connection would drop. +1 for a keyboard like this one that is connected via USB and offers an USB 'in' and USB 'out' port for simultaniously charging and using a 3G stick. If you find something like that I will be happy to add in my catalog :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster Openmoko Shop - new: Bluetooth Keyboard
2009/4/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: But I was wondering it if it can be powered from USB when the battery is full. And if not, how efficient it is to charge and discharge the battery at the same time. yes, i thought as much -- and was wondering why that should be totally unreasonable (and why the idea did not occur to other peoples). I just think that if it will be wired together will be more energy efficient to have an usb keyboard than a bt keyboard+bt neo antenna+neo battery drained by the keyboard , nevertheless I will try to measure how high is that drainage on charge and when battery is full charged when I got some free time ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
