Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread flamma
 Anyway, from where have you got this information?

From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
player. I think it's called try and error in english.


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread Sven Bretfeld
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 Anyway, from where have you got this information?

From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
 player. I think it's called try and error in english.

I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.

Thanks for the info. I see the principle now. I was thinking Trolltech
must have supplied some more information on their system.

Greetings

Sven


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread flamma
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyway, from where have you got this information?

From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
 player. I think it's called try and error in english.

 I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
 you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
 several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.


No, I hadn't. I think that has nothing to do with Qtopia. I think you
should try to reformat your card.

Where have you installed Qtopia? I did it in my card.


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread Sven Bretfeld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
 you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
 several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.


 No, I hadn't. I think that has nothing to do with Qtopia. I think you
 should try to reformat your card.

 Where have you installed Qtopia? I did it in my card.

I have installed Qtopia on the Flash while my microSD runs Debian. The
latter is more important to me than Qtopia. Below is my output of 'ls
-l /media/card'. Maybe it gives somebody a hint what's wrong here. I
cannot make anything out of it.

Greetings

Sven

,
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -l /media/card/
| ls: /media/card/?-?/.1 : No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/?m?o.q : Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?
| �?
| �.?
| : Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/.� : Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/!aa.�: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?-�/.1!: No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/a!caea.g�: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?m�o.q!: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?▒��▒�?! Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/??�?.�!: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?-?/#.1#: No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/?m?o'.q': Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?*�?*�+.?+: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?.??.?/.�/: No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/#0c0c.0�: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?2-?2/3.1#3: No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/a#4cc4ec.4g�: Input/output error
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root721592361 Aug  2  1999 ��?
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1645551938 Jan 17  1997  b b. �
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root2869600425 Jul  5  1927��  ��
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| ?.?xr-xr-x1 root root3943604457 Jul  9  1959
| -r-xr-xr-x1 root root722641193 Aug 18  1999 ��?
| -r-xr-xr-x1 root root1796645225 Aug 22  2031 w�y�[.?]
| -r-xr-xr-x1 root root2870649257 Jul 21  1927 �.?�
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| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root723690025 Sep  2  1999 !�!�!?!
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1797694057 Sep  6  2031 %w�%y�%[.?%]
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root2871698089 Aug  5  1927 )��)��)�.?)�
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root3945702121 Aug  9  1959 -?�-?�-?.?-?
| -r-xr-xr-x1 root root724738857 Sep 18  1999 1�1�1?1
| -r-xr-xr-x1 root root1798742889 Sep 22  2031 5w�5y�5[.?5]
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1795596393 Aug  6  2031 ?w�y�[.?]
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1616184640 Feb 17  1996 a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1649747266 Feb 17  1997 a$cb$eb.$g�
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root44032 Sep  3 00:40 qtopia_db.sqlite
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1800952 Aug 31 18:23 uImage.bin
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  128 Aug 31 18:23 version
| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1611989312 Jan 18  1996 ���
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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread Lorn Potter
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 Anyway, from where have you got this information?
 
 From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
 player. I think it's called try and error in english.

/media/card/ and ~/Documents/

Use the Storage.conf file to add other directories to scan.

And it is documented:
http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/syscust-docstorage.html

-- 
Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company

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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 /media/card/ and ~/Documents/

Ok. ~/Documents/ works. I tried it before, since this is quite
obvious. But it didn't work at that time. I think one has to restart
the Xserver before the files get scanned.

Thanks

Sven


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-03 Thread Tim Erwin


 Is there any tutorial or howto to configure qtopia on a Freerunner? So
 far, I could not even manage to get DNS over usb0.


Have you looked here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_FreeRunner

Cheers,

Tim
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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-03 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hello Tim

Tim Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there any tutorial or howto to configure qtopia on a Freerunner? So
 far, I could not even manage to get DNS over usb0.

 Have you looked here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_FreeRunner

Yes, of course. But the page doesn't say much beyond the installation
process. But then the questions begin: How to get suspend working? How
to install language packages? (The Wiki page mentions that English and
German are supported out of the box, but the only option I have in the
language settings is American.) Where to store music files so that the
media player recognizes them? How to connect to the internet without
plugging the phone into a desktop machine? What is possible on the
Openmoko, what is not yet implemented? In the meantime I found out
some of the questions by try and error. But there must be a handbook
or something.

Greetings

Sven


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-03 Thread flamma
I only can answer a pair of questions.

How to get suspend working?

Suspend did work for me.


 Where to store music files so that the
 media player recognizes them?

/media/card . For me, that was the kernel partition, so I had little space
to store songs. I suppose this could be solved editing /etc/fstab.

Anyway, I think many of these topics should be addressed at Qtopia site.



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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-03 Thread Brehar Mihai
Hello World,

This is my first post here.

 How to get suspend working?
 
 Suspend did work for me.

Suspend is somehow working. If you boot the phone with no power supply, suspend 
will NOT work.

But, after you boot, you should connect the phone to a power source (2 seconds 
are enough), then... suspend will start to work. At least, this is the case 
with my FreeRunner.

Also, check the Power Management settings from the Qtopia menu.

I managed to survive on battery for one day and a half, with very little phone 
calls and no playing with the phone, and of course with suspend working.

Regards,
--
Mihai Brehar
http://www.mihaibrehar.ro/blog/


  

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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-03 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Dear Sven,

  Everybody sincerely regrets that there are only three pages in :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Qtopia
I suspect the reason is simply that a majority of active wiki editors use 
other distributions.

 Having a fresh view about what is missing from the wiki is always a one-time 
opportunity. Please seize it, establish an account and help write the missing 
manual:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Special:Userlogintype=signupreturnto=Qtopia_on_FreeRunner

Thanks in advance for sharing your findings,
Minh

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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-03 Thread Sven Bretfeld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Where to store music files so that the
 media player recognizes them?

 /media/card . For me, that was the kernel partition, so I had little space
 to store songs. I suppose this could be solved editing /etc/fstab.

Hm ... ls -l /media/card gives several input/output errors on my device.
So I don't dare to copy files into that directory. 

Anyway, from where have you got this information? The installed help
function says much about how to build and play a playlist etc. but
nothing about how to introduce files to the player. Can a
documentation be really so poor? I tend to think I'm missing something
really obvious, which is clear to all others but me. I believe there
must be some kind of handbook, maybe one that is shipped together with
a device with a pre-installed Qtopia. But I cannot find anything like
that.

Greetings

Sven


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-03 Thread roguemoko
Sven Bretfeld wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 Where to store music files so that the
 media player recognizes them?
   
 /media/card . For me, that was the kernel partition, so I had little space
 to store songs. I suppose this could be solved editing /etc/fstab.
 

 Hm ... ls -l /media/card gives several input/output errors on my device.
 So I don't dare to copy files into that directory. 

 Anyway, from where have you got this information? The installed help
 function says much about how to build and play a playlist etc. but
 nothing about how to introduce files to the player. Can a
 documentation be really so poor? I tend to think I'm missing something
 really obvious, which is clear to all others but me. I believe there
 must be some kind of handbook, maybe one that is shipped together with
 a device with a pre-installed Qtopia. But I cannot find anything like
 that.
   

Welcome to open source :) ... or more to the point, the open source 
edition of Qtopia.

I imagine the full version has smb/cifs and usb mass storage out of the 
box but with this version you have to use you imagination a bit. Being 
linux, transfer methods vary from person to person. I use scp/sftp to 
transfer to /media/card/audio. I have a fat32 formatted, 'known to work' 
sd card installed. I'm not quite sure what's up with yours though.

Once you _have_ got something across, it will automatically appear 
within the media browser. I read /media/card somewhere (I'd bet the 
wiki), transfered, tried and it worked. I imagine most people have a 
similar experience hence no elaboration on how to actually transfer the 
files etc.

For convenience, KDE supports fish:// for drag and drop functionality 
with ssh. I think filezilla supports sftp ... if not, I'm sure there are 
plenty of gui apps available. You'd simply need to connect to your 
phone's IP address.

As someone stated before, the wiki would definately benefit from your 
experience once you figure out the best method, as it's hard for some of 
us to see it from certain perspectives.

Hope that helps.

Sarton

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Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-02 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hello

I'm trying to make my first steps on qtopia on a Freerunner. Still I
haven't found any user guide. The tutorial for users on the qtopia
homepage is but a joke.

Is there any tutorial or howto to configure qtopia on a Freerunner? So
far, I could not even manage to get DNS over usb0.

Thanks

Sven


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