Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-16 Thread Paul Fertser
Margo Koppelmann margo.koppelm...@gmail.com writes: But there's one problem with the headset. I bought a 2.5-3.5 adapter for my headphones. And if I push it fully in then the music comes only from the right headphone. I have to pull it out a little for the music to come from both phones. I

Low earpiece volume (Was: Questions about the usability of GTA02)

2009-02-12 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:35:07AM +0100, Erland Lewin wrote: My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It works in a quiet indoor environment, but on a busy street I can hardly hear that someone is

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-11 Thread Margo Koppelmann
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net wrote: Huh, thanks for your effort! This sounds nice and would totally fit my battery need for one day i guess. expecting some improvements later things would be even better, but apparently it already is well enough for my needs

Running Kustomizer (was Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02 (Margo Koppelmann))

2009-02-11 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay
is out (Risto H. Kurppa) 6. Re: opkg-deb (kimaidou) 7. Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02 (Margo Koppelmann) 8. Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj (Arigead) 9. Neo FreeRunner on FLOSS Manuals (William Lai) From: Margo

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:32, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Kernel version should not matter here as long as you are powering down the appropriate devices? It does, because older kernel may not power down correctly these devices...

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Erland Lewin
2009/1/31 Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net 2) Calls My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It works in a quiet indoor environment, but on a busy street I can hardly hear that someone is talking on the

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Erland Lewin wrote: 2009/1/31 Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net 2) Calls My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It works in a quiet indoor environment, but on a busy street I

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Erland Lewin
2009/2/10 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Erland Lewin wrote: 2009/1/31 Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net 2) Calls My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:25:25 + Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: I think the only way around this is to use a Bluetooth headset, but I don't think the Bluetooth headset profile works in the version of the bluetooth stack (bluez-3) that's on the Freerunner now. I'm

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Margo Koppelmann
other open (haha, at least on his point of view) phones like iPhone, and Android ones. Hopefully i'll get some constructive hints on my questions, and if i'd rather wait, or buy on the spur of moment. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Margo Koppelmann
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Margo Koppelmann margo.koppelm...@gmail.com wrote: I left my Freerunner charging for the knight. In the morning the battery was 94% charged. 8:00 - Battery is 94%. I start to listen to music (.ogg) with my FR. Screen is blanked during this. 8:40 - I stop

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Tschaka
mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02-tp2249982p2305114.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-09 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:46:31PM +0100, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: [on battery power] The following is with the Debian distribution (with ancient 2.6.24 kernel), xscreensaver not installed and GSM off: Suspended: 20 % battery charge remaining after 3 days. If sitting idle (not

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes: I've checked out the 2.6.28 kernel from the andy-tracking branch, and it does better. After 12 hours, there's still 37 % charge left in the battery with an estimated 7.5 hours left. Where the 2.6.24 kernel would draw 56 mA from a fully

RE: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-02 Thread KaZeR
-Message d'origine- I am in Torino (Italy) and own a FR, so if someone what to try my FR we can meet. Best regards Michele Renda I think that most users here would love too to let other interested users try their FR. Maybe we could setup some kind of map where you could

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-02 Thread Tschaka
own way. keep it up! best regards and many thanks, tschaka -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02-tp2249982p2256987.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-02 Thread Thomas Otterbein
Maybe we could setup some kind of map where you could register, so if someone wants to try a FR it would be easier to find someone close? Here it is: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=115352610340426907999.000461ec26b35ac3fad63z=17 I've already entered the daily location of

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-02 Thread roguemoko
Tschaka wrote: and especially thanks to sarton, who was not only telling me to get this phone or not, but also gave a somewhat realistic opinion on some doubts and things that won't work up to now or for rather unadvanced users. You somehow made me not wanting the FR as my first phone, but as

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-02 Thread Helge Hafting
Tschaka wrote: So, again somebody is asking a question about usabilty. Please don't get me wrong, i actually browsed the mailing lists and wikis, but still there are some unsure things, and i'd like to have a bit more of a summarization. [...] I use the freerunner as may daily (and only)

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-02 Thread Gothnet
. This happened again. Then the battery started to go. After about two hours of trying to call them back, I eventually sent a text message to the other party, and it turns out it was a wrong number. D'oh! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-02 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sunday 01 February 2009 16:37:11 schrieb Stroller: On 31 Jan 2009, at 22:53, arne anka wrote: The one thing I find absent in every design is a plain old phone keypad. Maybe a slider design to pull it out from underneath or such like. probably not what om likes -- but consider buying

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-02 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Very well written, thanks. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
:2009-01-31T23:53:arne anka: The one thing I find absent in every design is a plain old phone keypad. Maybe a slider design to pull it out from underneath or such like. probably not what om likes -- but consider buying an unlocked g1 (android). with the android sources available

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 2/1/09 Johny Tenfinger wrote: Moko developers not use freerunner in daily use, they use blackberry I'm not OM developer (hmm, ok, developing is my hobby), but I'm using FreeRunner in daily use... hehe...managers not developers. (Most! of) Our developers use FreeRunners and a second

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Juergen Schinker
bytestore wrote: Freerunner is my daily phone, my hobby,my freeing, my satisfaction its help me on the work (terminal, gps, gprs) se w300i is my second phone (only phone and photomaker) please everyone who uses the freerunner as a daily phone always mention how e.g with which distribution

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
Well, now that my regular phone is on repairs, I've been using my neo as my main phone without major issues (just a little bit of buzz and low volume, but nothing extreme). It is currently running the fixed QtExtended 4.4.2 with the echo patch kindly posted by Chris Samuel (which works wonders

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, February 01, 2009 a las 12:31:47PM +, Juergen Schinker escribió: bytestore wrote: Freerunner is my daily phone, my hobby,my freeing, my satisfaction its help me on the work (terminal, gps, gprs) se w300i is my second phone (only phone and photomaker) please

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Stroller
On 31 Jan 2009, at 22:53, arne anka wrote: The one thing I find absent in every design is a plain old phone keypad. Maybe a slider design to pull it out from underneath or such like. probably not what om likes -- but consider buying an unlocked g1 (android). with the android sources

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread bytestore
Freerunner is my daily phone, my hobby,my freeing, my satisfaction its help me on the work (terminal, gps, gprs) se w300i is my second phone (only phone and photomaker) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02-tp2249982p2253518.html Sent

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 13:31, Juergen Schinker ba1...@homie.homelinux.net wrote: please everyone who uses the freerunner as a daily phone always mention how e.g with which distribution software etc. i'm happy for everyone who does but i desperatly want to use it as well as a phone... I'm

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread bytestore
Mmmm.. please vote you request in this site Freerunner as a daily phone? http://openmoko.spb.ru/viewtopic.php?f=4t=17 Which distribution you use on freerunner? http://openmoko.spb.ru/viewtopic.php?f=4t=16 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Kosa
You forgot to put om2008.12 as an distro option, which is the most stable distro I've found. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - bytestore escribió: Mmmm.. please vote you request in this site Freerunner as a daily phone? http://openmoko.spb.ru/viewtopic.php?f=4t=17 Which distribution you

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 06:11:58AM -0800, Tschaka wrote: So, again somebody is asking a question about usabilty. Please don't get me wrong, i actually browsed the mailing lists and wikis, but still there are some unsure things, and i'd like to have a bit more of a summarization. I'm

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Gothnet
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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread roguemoko
Gothnet wrote: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: Why? What is it that you expect the Neo Freerunner to do that the other handheld devices out there won't? You will have noticed that pretty much all the unhappy users are those expecting the Neo Freerunner to be just another well polished

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Sarton, this is a great mail, spot on, thank you very much. Wolfgang On Feb 2, 2009, at 1:27 PM, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: Gothnet wrote: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: Why? What is it that you expect the Neo Freerunner to do that the other handheld devices out there won't? You

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-01 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:27 AM, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: Don't get me wrong, I love my freerunner ... I really wish I could pimp it as a phone rather than just exclaiming look! it works! ... when quite often I realise I'm wrong ... after hitting answer 50 times and yelling at it to

Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Tschaka
constructive hints on my questions, and if i'd rather wait, or buy on the spur of moment. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02-tp2249982p2249982.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
1st) Battery Power ... So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university, would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery power after 10 hours? not with the scenario you describe -- but otoh: which phone does? your power consumption seems

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi Tschaka! On Saturday 31 January 2009 15:11:58 Tschaka wrote: 1st) Battery Power sometimes i'm at university from 9am to 10pm 6 days a week. I'm often browsing mobile news pages with my phone when going to university, or having a chat (XMPP of course!), approx 40 minutes a day. In the

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Michele Renda
On 31/01/2009 15:49, arne anka wrote: who knows? there's no realiable timeframe for when gta03 may be available, afair. maybe, when you give some hints to your location, someone owning an fr already might make him/herself available to show the fr in the flesh and demonstrate your scenarios?

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Tschaka
to you too for your help so far! edit: whoops, quotes do look a bit different in preview. anyway, hope it will be readable. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02-tp2249982p2250993.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
rather wait, or buy on the spur of moment. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02-tp2249982p2249982.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread bytestore
in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Questions-about-the-usability-of-GTA02-tp2249982p2251211.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Moko developers not use freerunner in daily use, they use blackberry I'm not OM developer (hmm, ok, developing is my hobby), but I'm using FreeRunner in daily use... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
Ya, atm i am using a sony ericsson k800i, so just an ordinary phone. it's handling my needs very well, when it comes down to battery power. i only got to charge the battery every 3 or 4 days. to make things clear: i don't listen to music all day, only on the go, so maximum 2 hours a day.

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
Moko developers not use freerunner in daily use, they use blackberry well, i certainly doubt that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread roguemoko
Tschaka wrote: Long story short, i don't want to get disappointed buying a neo. I mean, fancy features, software and such is nice to have, but if fundamental things won't work (acceptable), I and many others won't support Openmoko on the long term, means replacing the Neo with a later release

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Hendrik Siedelmann
2009/1/31 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: 1st) Battery Power ... So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university, would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery power after 10 hours? not with the scenario you describe -- but otoh: which

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
Looking at this thread and thinking about buying a phone(frankly am fed up with the one I have atm). I think I'll wait for a GTA03... From reading the wiki[1,2] pages it seems it'll get a lot of new hardware in it and that the requirement for that seems to also be fully Free hardware. Atleast

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
The one thing I find absent in every design is a plain old phone keypad. Maybe a slider design to pull it out from underneath or such like. probably not what om likes -- but consider buying an unlocked g1 (android). with the android sources available virtually every distribution available