RE: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like communityapplications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-03 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 11:25 -0700, steve wrote:
>  Bike mount?
> 
>  Or car mount?
> 
>  Guillermo how hard is that?

The rubber skin is cool:
http://www.sureda.org/Portfolio/Electronics/OpenMoko/Accesories/NeoSkin/OpenMoko-NeoSkin-StandardFrame.htm




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RE: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like communityapplications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-02 Thread steve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songlines

Those magic spots. And navigation. And music.I thought you would like
this.
 

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> What is the point of having GPS anyway?
>

Its nice, when you're navigating around an unfamiliar area, to be able to
have a realtime update of where you are exactly.  Its also fun to have a
trace of your trip, if you're the kind of person who gets out a bit.  Nice
in the forests and among nature, for example, to find that 'magic spot'
again ..

> I spend most of my time walking or taking public transport, within a 
> very short radius, in an area I already know very well. I'm just not 
> getting what's cool or exciting about GPS.


GPS is a good reason to get out more.

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RE: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like communityapplications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-02 Thread steve
 Bike mount?

 Or car mount?

 Guillermo how hard is that?

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If you don't need a GPS that's great but I find them really useful.
Yes, maps and a compasses are really useful but they are quite bulky and you
need the right one. Thanks to the FreeRunner I've now got localised, street
level maps for a large part of the work (OSM[0]) in my pocket. In addition
to this I don't even have to work out where I am and what direction I am
moving in.

I'm also looking for a mount for my bicycle handlebars so I'll have a full
bike computer with me when I'm riding - speed, direction, time and distance
will all be displayed for me along with the map. If I think of anything else
I want to hand I could either implement it myself or ask the tangoGPS guys.

And they are *so* much fun in planes :)

Tim


[0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Ken Restivo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:38:07PM +0300, Mikko Rauhala wrote:
>> ti, 2008-07-29 kello 20:53 +0200, Marcus Bauer kirjoitti:
>> > I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing 
>> > this will take at least five more years, probably ten.
>>
>> That's probably true _if you drive a car_ (though even for that it 
>> can be a handy help, especially in areas that don't happen to have 
>> lots of turn restrictions, though you of course don't want to just 
>> blindly drive listening to it anyway).
>>
>> Us others want navigation too and are considerably less hampered by 
>> OSM's current lackings. 'course, there are other projects than 
>> TangoGPS, but it seems otherwise nice so one would like it to include 
>> this as well. As long as I'm not coding it, it's not my call, of 
>> course :]
>>
>> PS: Kudos for your work and all, but with all your hyperbole, jumping 
>> to conclusions, accusations of lying and stuff, you might want to 
>> take a step back for a breather if you want, you know, people to 
>> bother to listen to you instead of just wanting to rant wildly.
>>
>
> I have a really dumb question:
>
> What is the point of having GPS anyway?
>
> I don't travel much, so perhaps that's why I just don't get it.
>
> If I'm navigating around a strange city, though, a hardcopy map is plenty
good.
>
> I spend most of my time walking or taking public transport, within a very
short radius, in an area I already know very well. I'm just not getting
what's cool or exciting about GPS.
>
> -ken
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RE: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like communityapplications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-31 Thread steve
Thanks Mickey, 

 TANGO GPS  was one of the first teams I decided to give a Free FreeRunner
to.  

  I'm  glad to hear that it will be in milestone2.

Steve

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Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> > Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own gps 
> > software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
> >
> > OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Marcus
>
> Not  to start a flame war but even I would like to know why Openmoko 
> with its scarce resources is developing its own gps software instead 
> of supporting something like Tango GPS that seems to be working so well?

Dear Rakshat, please don't let yourself be fooled by polemics, I know it's
hard to resist, but we should lean on to the facts.

Fact is: Openmoko is NOT developing its own gps software, in fact we all
like Tango GPS a lot. It talks nicely to our opgsd implementation and will
be included by default in the FSO milestone2.

What we did though was to write a framework subsystem implementing the
org.freedesktop.Gypso dbus protcol, enhancing it to support the great U-Blox
chip found in the Neo Freerunner devices, enhancing it to hook into the
systemwide peripheral resource control, enhancing it to prepare for
automatic downloading/uploading almanac and ephemeris to improve warmstart.
So, in a
nutshell: We provided the necessary middleware (as is the rest of FSO) to
make things run better. Of course we will also discuss with upstream about
how to improve the gypsy implementation of org.freedesktop.Gypsy.

Please see Daniel Willmann's announcement for more details.

Cheers,
--
:M:

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