RE: Phonelog: missed call NULL name and number

2009-09-18 Thread Niels Heyvaert

 - Why is the number/name equal to NULL?

 NULL means hidden number.

 Kind of expected that one :-)

 A programmer can understand this, obviously, but from an end user
 perspective it is not very meaningful. Could we replace NULL by
 something
 self explanatory like [Hidden number] or [No caller ID] or [Private
 number]...?

 So long as it's done by the app at runtime. The daemon shouldn't storing
 things in a language-specific way.


 Indeed, totally agree. Any application owner reading this who's willing to
 apply the suggested change?

 It's already possible, just edit your ~/.phonelog/phonelog.conf

Thanks, just changed my phonelog.conf and it now shows up with the alternative 
text. Good stuff.
 
Could we perhaps change the default phonelog.conf to another more meaninful 
value? Just for ease of use. And maybe, in addition, add a line or two on the 
Wiki?
 
What do you think?
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RE: Phonelog: missed call NULL name and number

2009-09-17 Thread Niels Heyvaert

 - Why is the number/name equal to NULL?
 - Why didn't the phone do anything (ringing/vibrating, missed call
 notification) when apparently somebody tried to call?


 NULL means hidden number.

Kind of expected that one :-)
 
A programmer can understand this, obviously, but from an end user perspective 
it is not very meaningful. Could we replace NULL by something self 
explanatory like [Hidden number] or [No caller ID] or [Private number]...?

 BTW, phonelog seems quite buggy as to received/dialed/missed call 
 registration.

 Since sometimes some of these show up with a day or so of delay, could it be
 an opimd bug or a phonelog bug?

It's a bug alright (missed call but no notification), but don't which component 
is responsible.
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Re: Phonelog: missed call NULL name and number

2009-09-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 07:23:09AM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote:
  BTW, phonelog seems quite buggy as to received/dialed/missed call 
  registration.
 
  Since sometimes some of these show up with a day or so of delay, could it be
  an opimd bug or a phonelog bug?
 
 It's a bug alright (missed call but no notification), but don't which 
 component is responsible.

I don't complain much about lack of notification (I cut off the current 
notifiers as
one was useless and the other was somewhat buggy) but about *registering* :)

Rui

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Re: Phonelog: missed call NULL name and number

2009-09-17 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 17 September 2009, Niels Heyvaert wrote:
  - Why is the number/name equal to NULL?
  - Why didn't the phone do anything (ringing/vibrating, missed call
  notification) when apparently somebody tried to call?
 
  NULL means hidden number.

 Kind of expected that one :-)

 A programmer can understand this, obviously, but from an end user
 perspective it is not very meaningful. Could we replace NULL by something
 self explanatory like [Hidden number] or [No caller ID] or [Private
 number]...?

So long as it's done by the app at runtime. The daemon shouldn't storing 
things in a language-specific way.

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RE: Phonelog: missed call NULL name and number

2009-09-17 Thread Niels Heyvaert

 - Why is the number/name equal to NULL?

 NULL means hidden number.

 Kind of expected that one :-)

 A programmer can understand this, obviously, but from an end user
 perspective it is not very meaningful. Could we replace NULL by something
 self explanatory like [Hidden number] or [No caller ID] or [Private
 number]...?

 So long as it's done by the app at runtime. The daemon shouldn't storing
 things in a language-specific way.


Indeed, totally agree. Any application owner reading this who's willing to 
apply the suggested change?
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Re: Phonelog: missed call NULL name and number

2009-09-17 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/17/09, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote:

 - Why is the number/name equal to NULL?

 NULL means hidden number.

 Kind of expected that one :-)

 A programmer can understand this, obviously, but from an end user
 perspective it is not very meaningful. Could we replace NULL by
 something
 self explanatory like [Hidden number] or [No caller ID] or [Private
 number]...?

 So long as it's done by the app at runtime. The daemon shouldn't storing
 things in a language-specific way.


 Indeed, totally agree. Any application owner reading this who's willing to
 apply the suggested change?

It's already possible, just edit your ~/.phonelog/phonelog.conf

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Re: Phonelog: missed call NULL name and number

2009-09-16 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/16/09, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Yesterday evening my FR woke up from suspend without doing anything else (no
 notification message, incoming call or SMS). I just watched the screen to
 see what was happening. After some idle time the it went back to suspend.

 This morning I noticed an entry in the phone log for missed calls with the
 same time and date from this wakeup event. The name and number are showing
 NULL.

 Two questions:

 - Why is the number/name equal to NULL?
 - Why didn't the phone do anything (ringing/vibrating, missed call
 notification) when apparently somebody tried to call?

 Thanks,

 Niels.
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Re: Phonelog: missed call NULL name and number

2009-09-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 06:40:29PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 On 9/16/09, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Yesterday evening my FR woke up from suspend without doing anything else (no
  notification message, incoming call or SMS). I just watched the screen to
  see what was happening. After some idle time the it went back to suspend.
 
  This morning I noticed an entry in the phone log for missed calls with the
  same time and date from this wakeup event. The name and number are showing
  NULL.
 
  Two questions:
 
  - Why is the number/name equal to NULL?
  - Why didn't the phone do anything (ringing/vibrating, missed call
  notification) when apparently somebody tried to call?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Niels.
 
 NULL means hidden number.

BTW, phonelog seems quite buggy as to received/dialed/missed call registration.

Since sometimes some of these show up with a day or so of delay, could it be
an opimd bug or a phonelog bug?

Rui

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