Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Paul Fertser wrote: So what do you suggest? My suggestion, please ignore it if you dont like it :) Pressing any key brings Qi in interactive mode. It can work the same way as uboot. AUX switches between partitions, POWER boots selected one. Selected partition can be indicated with AUX led blinking. Blinking could work like 2second OFF followed by fast blinks for selected partition number. time- 2s 4s NAND | . . P1 | .. .. P2 | ... ... P3 | It could be that booting in interactive mode starts with NAND, because it's better then start booting from SD (one needs to know number of bootable partitions in SD and also NAND is very common boot option). I know it's quite a big change, but i dont think that current partition switching is usable. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz writes: So what do you suggest? My suggestion, please ignore it if you dont like it :) Pressing any key brings Qi in interactive mode. It can work the same way as uboot. AUX switches between partitions, POWER boots selected one. Selected partition can be indicated with AUX led blinking. Blinking could work like 2second OFF followed by fast blinks for selected partition number. Hm, interesting idea. I'll think about it. I know it's quite a big change, but i dont think that current partition switching is usable. Well, i have one partition on SD and i can boot from nand when i want, usually one-two tries is enough. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:11:55PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com writes: On 9/20/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Is anybody at all able to get Qi to bott from several partitions on a SD card? If so, how? ... I have one distro on flash and one on SD Card. When i try to start the one on the flash i need quite a few tries until I manage to press the aux button in the correct instant, such that the correct distro is loaded. 70% of the time the one on the first partition on the SD Card is loaded. So what do you suggest? A tiny root filesystem which presents some kind of menu and then uses kexec to start the new kernel. I have recently started to work (well if time permits) on this kind of thing. Marc -- Marc Andre Tanner http://www.brain-dump.org/ GPG key: CF7D56C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Marc Andre Tanner openm...@brain-dump.org writes: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:11:55PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com writes: On 9/20/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Is anybody at all able to get Qi to bott from several partitions on a SD card? If so, how? ... I have one distro on flash and one on SD Card. When i try to start the one on the flash i need quite a few tries until I manage to press the aux button in the correct instant, such that the correct distro is loaded. 70% of the time the one on the first partition on the SD Card is loaded. So what do you suggest? A tiny root filesystem which presents some kind of menu and then uses kexec to start the new kernel. I have recently started to work (well if time permits) on this kind of thing. Feel free to ping me on irc for suggestions how to use external initramfs with Qi. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
So what do you suggest? A tiny root filesystem which presents some kind of menu and then uses kexec to start the new kernel. I have recently started to work (well if time permits) on this kind of thing. Feel free to ping me on irc for suggestions how to use external initramfs with Qi. i have tried this before by using kexec, please search the devel archives. as i am not a coder, i needed to use X that made it huge and quite slow for this purpose, if you can make it working directly with fb it would be awesome :) cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:10:40PM +0100, Petr Vanek wrote: So what do you suggest? A tiny root filesystem which presents some kind of menu and then uses kexec to start the new kernel. I have recently started to work (well if time permits) on this kind of thing. Feel free to ping me on irc for suggestions how to use external initramfs with Qi. Thanks Paul I will come back to that later (I actually have some questions regarding it). i have tried this before by using kexec, please search the devel archives. as i am not a coder, i needed to use X that made it huge and quite slow for this purpose, if you can make it working directly with fb it would be awesome :) Yeah I have read the thread. You got it down to ~12sec if I remember correctly. I will probably post to -devel to outline my ideas and get some general input from others once I got a bit further. Marc -- Marc Andre Tanner http://www.brain-dump.org/ GPG key: CF7D56C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Hi, On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Is anybody at all able to get Qi to bott from several partitions on a SD card? If so, how? For me noboot-GTA02 file in /boot works just fine. I am using qi from https://people.openmoko.org/andy/ I am using the same Qi. But - here the noboot file doesn't work :-/ Btw you can simply boot from 3 partitions. Uboot can boot NAND, FAT +mmcblk0p2 and if you put noboot-GTA02 in that partition, Qi can boot from mmcblk0p3. As I understand it Qi does this: 1: try to boot from 1st SD card partition 2: try to boot from 2nd SD card partition 3. try to boot from 3rd SD card partition 4. try to boot from NAND (aka built-in flash) My SD card partition layout looks like this p1 - vfat data partition (only data, nothing else) p2 - ext3 primary partition, this is my main os. Currently holds QtMoko v8) p3 - this is aother ext3 primary partition, for me to keep a backup os on. Currently, it holds a copy of QtMoko v8. p4 - swap, 128Megs But - when I put a noboot-GTA02 file in /boot on p2, Qi just stops. It doesn't boot anything, not even the NAND. I have to boot from NOR U-boot, select NAND and from there I mount p2 and remove the noboot file. (BTW, my NAND contains an old Om2008 image.) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Is anybody at all able to get Qi to bott from several partitions on a SD card? If so, how? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
On 9/20/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Is anybody at all able to get Qi to bott from several partitions on a SD card? If so, how? -- for what it's worth, I am having also some troubles with Qi concerning booting from the partition I would like to. I think its unrelated to your issue but I post it anyway: I have one distro on flash and one on SD Card. When i try to start the one on the flash i need quite a few tries until I manage to press the aux button in the correct instant, such that the correct distro is loaded. 70% of the time the one on the first partition on the SD Card is loaded. Maybe you can try to press very often the aux button (as I do :)) and look if u have more luck. Additionally, as far as i understood, each partition has to have its own boot directory with the kernel on it to be able to boot. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com writes: On 9/20/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Is anybody at all able to get Qi to bott from several partitions on a SD card? If so, how? ... I have one distro on flash and one on SD Card. When i try to start the one on the flash i need quite a few tries until I manage to press the aux button in the correct instant, such that the correct distro is loaded. 70% of the time the one on the first partition on the SD Card is loaded. So what do you suggest? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Is anybody at all able to get Qi to bott from several partitions on a SD card? If so, how? For me noboot-GTA02 file in /boot works just fine. I am using qi from https://people.openmoko.org/andy/ Btw you can simply boot from 3 partitions. Uboot can boot NAND, FAT +mmcblk0p2 and if you put noboot-GTA02 in that partition, Qi can boot from mmcblk0p3. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
On 9/20/09, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com writes: On 9/20/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: Is anybody at all able to get Qi to bott from several partitions on a SD card? If so, how? ... I have one distro on flash and one on SD Card. When i try to start the one on the flash i need quite a few tries until I manage to press the aux button in the correct instant, such that the correct distro is loaded. 70% of the time the one on the first partition on the SD Card is loaded. So what do you suggest? I think one way would be to increase the led blinking interval in qi between the partitions. So maybe it would be easier to catch the desired partition. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
No hint on how to make Qi boot from other partitions on the SD card? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
No hint on how to make Qi boot from other partitions on the SD card? Could this be of help to you? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi But no guarantee you'll find an answer there. I, for one, still haven't found a way to make Qi boot from SD, let alone to make it skip partitions. Despite the fact all of this are standard features, according to the wiki. _ Reageer op foto’s van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe. Gegarandeerd hilariteit! http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Hello, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.comwrote: No hint on how to make Qi boot from other partitions on the SD card? Could this be of help to you? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi Thanks - I know about and have read that page. And it hasn't been updated since I read it last time. :-) But no guarantee you'll find an answer there. Nope. according to that page, putting a file named noboot-GTA02 in the /boot directory on a partition makes Qi skip that parttion in the boot process. This semms to be true - if I put that file on p2 (partition 2) of my SD card, Qi doesn't boot that partition. Unfortunately, it doesn't boot p3 (partition 3) either. AFAICT, p3 has the layout and the files necessary to boot from (it is a copy of a working set of files from p2). Why Qi doesn't want to boot it, I don't know. Is anybody able to select which partition to boot (on a SD card) by using the noboot-GTA02 file? I, for one, still haven't found a way to make Qi boot from SD How is the layout of your SD card, partition-wise? Mine (a 2GB sd card) is like this: p1, vfat, 792 MB - I use this for data, it is mounted as /media/card p2, ext3, 500 MB - this is my main os, root partition p3, ext3, 500 MB - this is another os, for testing purposes (ths is the one that Qi don't want to boot) p4, swap, 128 MB - this is a swap partition, needed in some cases or in fdisk 'p' output: Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 1967 MB, 1967128576 bytes 57 heads, 56 sectors/track, 1203 cylinders Units = cylinders of 3192 * 512 = 1634304 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 6941203 8139606 FAT16 /dev/mmcblk0p2 1 307 489944 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p3 308 614 489972 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p4 615 693 126084 82 Linux swap / Solaris The kernel lives in /boot, øike this: r...@neo:/root# ls -l /boot total 1844 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Aug 4 14:50 append-GTA02 -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 1877860 Sep 8 23:10 uImage-GTA02.bin Following hte name standard is necessary for this to work. With this layout, p1 is skipped and p2 is automatically booted whenever I turn on my FreeRunner with a short press of the power button. Note: it will taake 2 minutes or more before anything shows on the screen if you use QtMoko. Qi doesn't output anything unless told to do so. Note (from the Qi wiki page) that Qi will not boot from fat partitions, if that's what your are trying to do. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : Here goes: neo:~# mount /dev/mmcblk0p3 /mnt neo:~# ls -l /mnt/boot total 1844 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Aug 4 14:50 append-GTA02 -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 1877704 Aug 27 21:42 uImage-GTA02.bin neo:~# more /mnt/boot/append-GTA02 console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootdelay=1 Everything is a copy off p2 o I don't undertsnad why it doesn't work. Give us a cat of /etc/fstab ... Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Hi, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Linus Gasser ine...@markas-al-nour.orgwrote: Give us a cat of /etc/fstab ... Here is the fstab off p2: r...@neo:/root# more /etc/fstab rootfs /autodefaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card auto defaults 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p4 swap swapdefaults 0 0 proc/procprocdefaults 0 0 tmpfs /etc/network/run tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /var/locktmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /var/cache/apt tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 192.168.0.200:/ /mnt/nfs nfs noauto,nolock,soft,rsize=32768,wsize=32768 0 0 As you can see, the one on p3 is equal: r...@neo:/root# df /mnt Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mmcblk0p3 474464313797136169 70% /mnt r...@neo:/root# more /mnt/etc/fstab rootfs /autodefaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card auto defaults 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p4 swap swapdefaults 0 0 proc/procprocdefaults 0 0 tmpfs /etc/network/run tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /var/locktmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 tmpfs /var/cache/apt tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0 192.168.0.200:/ /mnt/nfs nfs noauto,nolock,soft,rsize=32768,wsize=32768 0 0 As long as Qi adds the 'root=' parameterto the kernel cmd line, this should work, right? r...@neo:/root# cat /proc/cmdline loglevel=4 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(qi),0x0004(depr-ub-env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(depr),0x0004(identity-ext2),0x0f6a(rootfs) g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:0D:38 g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11:01:0D:38 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=1 console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootdelay=1 -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
can you post the list of files on p3?, also the contents of append-GTA02 2009/9/12 Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com: Hi, I use Qi as the bootloader on my FreeRunner. I have sevaral partitions on my SDcard: p1 - vfat data partition (only data, nothing else) p2 - ext3 primary partition, this is my main os. Currently holds QtMoko v8) p3 - this is aother ext3 primary partition, for me to keep a backup os on. Currently, it holds a copy of QtMoko v8. p4 - swap, 128Megs First I thought that the press AUX trick from the Qi wiki page would let me select which partition to boot from, but it seems like it only selects kernel, so not useful for me in this situation. Then I read about the /boot/noboot-GTA02 file, so I did 'touch /boot/noboot-GTA02' (when /dev/mmcblk0p2 was my root partition). Now Qi skips the p2 partition, but after that it justs sits therr, it won't boot the p3 partition. What can be wrong? And how do I fix it? (I have checked, and the files in /boot and elsehwere looks correct) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
I'm talking about the files on /boot of p3 partition not whole files list :) 2009/9/12 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: can you post the list of files on p3?, also the contents of append-GTA02 2009/9/12 Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com: Hi, I use Qi as the bootloader on my FreeRunner. I have sevaral partitions on my SDcard: p1 - vfat data partition (only data, nothing else) p2 - ext3 primary partition, this is my main os. Currently holds QtMoko v8) p3 - this is aother ext3 primary partition, for me to keep a backup os on. Currently, it holds a copy of QtMoko v8. p4 - swap, 128Megs First I thought that the press AUX trick from the Qi wiki page would let me select which partition to boot from, but it seems like it only selects kernel, so not useful for me in this situation. Then I read about the /boot/noboot-GTA02 file, so I did 'touch /boot/noboot-GTA02' (when /dev/mmcblk0p2 was my root partition). Now Qi skips the p2 partition, but after that it justs sits therr, it won't boot the p3 partition. What can be wrong? And how do I fix it? (I have checked, and the files in /boot and elsehwere looks correct) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?
Hi, On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:33 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: I'm talking about the files on /boot of p3 partition not whole files list :) Here goes: neo:~# mount /dev/mmcblk0p3 /mnt neo:~# ls -l /mnt/boot total 1844 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Aug 4 14:50 append-GTA02 -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 1877704 Aug 27 21:42 uImage-GTA02.bin neo:~# more /mnt/boot/append-GTA02 console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootdelay=1 Everything is a copy off p2 o I don't undertsnad why it doesn't work. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
