Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call. Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other caller. I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten. Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the Distributions available... A ticket has been opened for this feature in SHR : http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ticket/41 But I didn't have any idea when it will be done... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...
or install zenity and create a /usr/share/applications/Volume.desktop file containg the lines below: [Desktop Entry] Comment=Volume Control Exec=/usr/bin/amixer set PCM `zenity --scale --display=:0.0 --text=Volume --min-value=100 --max-value=255 --value=235` MimeType= Name=.Volume StartupNotify=false Terminal=true TerminalOptions= Type=Application Categories=Application;Utility; Icon=xterm On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 10:18 +0100, gromez wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call. Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other caller. I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten. Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the Distributions available... A ticket has been opened for this feature in SHR : http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ticket/41 But I didn't have any idea when it will be done... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:03:34AM +0100, Theo wrote: To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call. Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other caller. I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten. Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the Distributions available... I know that there's one in the oven possibly for 2008.11 Rui -- Hail Eris, Hack GNU/Linux! Today is Boomtime, the 30th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:03:34 +0100 Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (T) wrote: To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call. Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other caller. I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten. Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the Distributions available... How about PyMixer? Changes volume and can also recall/save alsa-state files. all the way down at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Volume -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:03:34 +0100 Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call. Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other caller. I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten. Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the Distributions available... e already has a mixer gadget - just enable the module (tricky given the config dialog doesnt fit on screen... but thats a matter of time before it's fixed) and then u get a little mixer icon u can press and get a volume slider... :) it's always available then. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...
Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the Distributions available... On Debian I use the xfce volume applet, it's easy and fast with stylus pen. Look at the screenshot: http://levysantanna.blogspot.com/2008/11/screenshots-debian-com-xfce-no.html []s Levy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Matthias Camenzind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Better settings in which way?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Volume
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:17:32 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Volume On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Matthias Camenzind wrote: I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Better settings in which way?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community The default settings aren't very good. The other end of a call hears near to only an echo but not you. You can solve it if you turn up Mic2 and Speaker a bit down. The autorun script abve is not needed, Read some post with subject Echo issue solved ..., they told the settings will only stay for one call. I didn't test so far my self. _ Die neue Generation der Windows Live Services - jetzt downloaden! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:27:52 + Matthias Camenzind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh why not copy them just once (or edit the files in place)? A script that does the copy every time on a reboot seems not needed according to me. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Volume
On my FR the settings get restored after restart. Same with the /etc/resolv.conf Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:59:30 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Volume On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:27:52 + Matthias Camenzind wrote: I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh why not copy them just once (or edit the files in place)? A script that does the copy every time on a reboot seems not needed according to me. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Volume
its only the resolv.conf wich is after booting empty. I thought it's the same with the state files but isn't. Thank you. On my FR the settings get restored after restart. Same with the /etc/resolv.conf Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:59:30 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Volume On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:27:52 + Matthias Camenzind wrote: I found out a way to get better volume settings. cp /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state /home/root/ modify entry 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value to 3 and 'Speaker Playback Volume' value to 95 (in state file in /home/root/ create a script like this: #!/bin/bash cp /home/root/*.state /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ this should work, same way you can edit other state files. to autorun the script i added it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh why not copy them just once (or edit the files in place)? A script that does the copy every time on a reboot seems not needed according to me. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Volume on a phone call
If you are connect over ssh to your phone you can in alsamixer set Mic 2 to 100 and Speaker to 88 this enables a normal call with near to no echo and much better understanding on the other side. But after disconnecting the settings are restored. May ou can also change during the call to a terminal and make the changes there, but only without the standard keyboard. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:11:42 -0700 Subject: Volume on a phone call on the 2008.9 distro, is there any way to turn up the microphone volume while on a call? When I'm talking to someone they always tell me they can't hear me. -Jason _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume on a phone call
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:11:42 -0700 Jason Cawood [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JC) wrote: on the 2008.9 distro, is there any way to turn up the microphone volume while on a call? When I'm talking to someone they always tell me they can't hear me. -Jason Yes, there is a way by installing pymixer, please follow the instructions here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Volume_Control The speaker volume is usually all the way at the bottom of the pymixer screen. -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: volume phone very low after upgrade to qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-09012242
I have also experienced the same. The incoming sound volume is barely audible, it sound like an ant in the distance. However the outgoing volume is excellent. Can someone please post the correct set of alsa state files and instructions on where to put them. regards Denis On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:45 AM, t m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've upgraded to qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-09012242 because of the improved sound quality and sms problem that was solved. After upgrading the volume (incoming) is much lower. Changing the volume in the settings didn't help. Looks like the volume needs to be adjusted manually. Any suggestions? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume control in Media Players?
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the openmoko-mediaplayer2, swipe your finger up on down on the screen repeatedly to change the volume. Wow It works ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume control in Media Players?
Dylan Reilly ha scritto: In the openmoko-mediaplayer2, swipe your finger up on down on the screen repeatedly to change the volume. In Qtopia, it is more of a tap and hold gesture. Tap and hold on the right to increase and on the left to decrease. Of course you tap and hold to fast forward and rewind too. I can never quite figure out exactly how to illicit the volume control versus the seek control when I want. Yes, its's not so good... However, am I the only who had an incredible volume in 2008.8 player? Before of setting the volume at about 10 (also editing the config file) my songs were crappy and I wasn't able to listen them. The same happens if I replace the default ring tone with a my own... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
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| Timo Jyrinki wrote:
| 2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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| I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling
| the phone - anyone found a fix for this?
|
| I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the
| discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction
| like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has
| figured how to fix the echo issues.
|
| (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is
| also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo
| users do have the issues)
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| -Timo
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| Right - perhaps something to add to the list of hardware issues?
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| Everyone I have spoken to using the GTA02 handset has mentioned large
| amounts of echo when calling to/from another cellphone, landlines don't
| seem to exhibit the same behaviour in my experience. Disappointing, as
| it limits the device's usefulness as a phone which is a reasonably core
| funtionality...
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If you got the right values, then there is no problem. In the default
config /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state the capturing volume is to
low, so the other side can hardly hear you. If you raise this value too
much, than the neo produces a lot echo on the other side. But my
experience was, that with the right value there is no problem.
Look for:
control.5 {
~comment.access 'read write'
~comment.type INTEGER
~comment.count 1
~comment.range '0 - 127'
~iface MIXER
~name 'Mono Playback Volume'
~value 103
}
and change the value from 103 to 109. In my oppinion this is a very
good value. Check it.
Greetings Bastian
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Re: Volume?
2008/7/27 Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you got the right values, then there is no problem. In the default config /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state the capturing volume is to low, so the other side can hardly hear you. If you raise this value too much, than the neo produces a lot echo on the other side. But my experience was, that with the right value there is no problem. Yep. The discussion about this was active on the support mailing list now, under title Buzzing on GSM audio, with similar results. See http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000573.html. Wiki was also updated to link to that thread. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Which *.state file and which value would I change to increase the speaker volume (at my ear) and the headphone volume when on a phone call? I can barely hear people when I'm on the phone. thanks! . . .shawn julien cubizolles wrote: Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 18:09 +0200, Christophe Badoit a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 julien cubizolles a écrit : Could someone please post a gsmhandset.state he knows is ok ? Here is the (I suppose) original one. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Which *.state file and which value would I change to increase the speaker volume (at my ear) and the headphone volume when on a phone call? I can barely hear people when I'm on the phone. i think it's gsmhandset.state (someone correct me when wrong) and give the fact taht the state files only have numbers you're better off calling and using alsamixer. if you tweaked it to your heart's content, do alsactl -f mynew.state store save your gsmhandset.state and copy the mynew.state in it's place. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 09:11 -0600, shawn sullivan wrote: Which *.state file and which value would I change to increase the speaker volume (at my ear) and the headphone volume when on a phone call? I can barely hear people when I'm on the phone. the file attached few emails up on this thread did the trick for me thanks! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
I guess I'm just not sure which value to tweak to adjust the volume level? I could probably play around with it while on a call though, to see which one. But if any one happens to know. . .(: . . .shawn arne anka wrote: Which *.state file and which value would I change to increase the speaker volume (at my ear) and the headphone volume when on a phone call? I can barely hear people when I'm on the phone. i think it's gsmhandset.state (someone correct me when wrong) and give the fact taht the state files only have numbers you're better off calling and using alsamixer. if you tweaked it to your heart's content, do alsactl -f mynew.state store save your gsmhandset.state and copy the mynew.state in it's place. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling the phone - anyone found a fix for this? I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has figured how to fix the echo issues. (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo users do have the issues) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling the phone - anyone found a fix for this? I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has figured how to fix the echo issues. (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo users do have the issues) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Right - perhaps something to add to the list of hardware issues? Everyone I have spoken to using the GTA02 handset has mentioned large amounts of echo when calling to/from another cellphone, landlines don't seem to exhibit the same behaviour in my experience. Disappointing, as it limits the device's usefulness as a phone which is a reasonably core funtionality... Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling the phone - anyone found a fix for this? I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has figured how to fix the echo issues. (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo users do have the issues) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Right - perhaps something to add to the list of hardware issues? Everyone I have spoken to using the GTA02 handset has mentioned large amounts of echo when calling to/from another cellphone, landlines don't seem to exhibit the same behaviour in my experience. Disappointing, as it limits the device's usefulness as a phone which is a reasonably core funtionality... Aaron I have also experienced echoing, and even worse is the GSM interference noise. This has been improved by flashing with the ASU image and opkg upgrade to the latest kernel, but overall it is frustrating that the core functionality of making phone calls is not working solid... I do hope that it greatly improves soon! :) __ Donnie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
pe, 2008-07-25 kello 20:31 +0200, Aaron Sowry kirjoitti: Everyone I have spoken to using the GTA02 handset has mentioned large amounts of echo when calling to/from another cellphone, FWIW, I had this problem for most of my GTA01 use unless I tuned down the volume manually from the slider present when calling. On the default GTA02 image the problem isn't present out of the box, however. (Same sim, same provider, so I rather doubt it's them suddenly starting to do echo cancellation.) I presume the mixer settings in that are saner per default, and apparently I should back them up before trying any updating ;] -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Friday 25 July 2008, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling the phone - anyone found a fix for this? I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has figured how to fix the echo issues. Not figured it out yet, but trying to do it using the noise gate and automatic level control functions in the Wolfson audio chip. I'm missing some gain at the moment... I've also been annotating the block diagram of the chip with the numbers of the ALSA controls they're tied to so it should be easier for people to work out what does what. It's not finished yet, and I won't have time to post it before next week. (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo users do have the issues) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Am Sa 26. Juli 2008 schrieb Al Johnson: I've also been annotating the block diagram of the chip with the numbers of the ALSA controls they're tied to so it should be easier for people to work out what does what. It's not finished yet, and I won't have time to post it before next week. GREAT! urgently needed! Thanks, I may scrap it from my todo list now :-) /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Bastian Muck wrote: julien cubizolles schrieb: | Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit : | Hi, | I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help: | | http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5t=170start=75#p3277 | | I thinks it's the original one. I adjusted this one (increased the Mic2 | from 0 to 50) and nobody complains anymore when I call them... | No, it is not the original one. I adjusted the mono-volume, so everyone can understand me but without echo. Before the adjustment, everyone complained, that i was not loud enough. Greetings Bastian I've read this entire thread a couple of times and there are just so many options in alsamixer that I cannot figure out how to turn up the volume enough so that I can be heard by the person I'm calling. Would someone who has figured this out please place very simple instructions on the wiki? Thanks. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Thursday 24 July 2008, Brian C wrote:
Bastian Muck wrote:
julien cubizolles schrieb:
| Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit :
| Hi,
| I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help:
|
| http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5t=170start=75#p32
|77
|
| I thinks it's the original one. I adjusted this one (increased the Mic2
| from 0 to 50) and nobody complains anymore when I call them...
No, it is not the original one. I adjusted the mono-volume, so everyone
can understand me but without echo. Before the adjustment, everyone
complained, that i was not loud enough.
Greetings Bastian
I've read this entire thread a couple of times and there are just so
many options in alsamixer that I cannot figure out how to turn up the
volume enough so that I can be heard by the person I'm calling. Would
someone who has figured this out please place very simple instructions
on the wiki? Thanks.
You need to edit /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state
There are 3 controls that affect the level of the mic - try increasing one or
more of them until you get the level you want. Change the number in
the 'value' line to something bigger, but in the range specified in
the 'comment.range' line.
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Playback Volume'
value 103
}
control.12 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Sidetone Playback Volume'
value 2
}
control.48 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 3'
iface MIXER
name 'Mic2 Capture Volume'
value 2
}
Brian
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RE: Volume?
I have the mic volume working alright at the moment...but the speaker output in the earpiece seems rather low, as well as the person I'm calling hearing themselves echoed and of course the constant gsm interference sound as well. Can anyone post their .state files that are working well? (If anyone has found a good setting) Also, I heard people were getting good results from the FSO image when calling people. Can anyone who has tried this report on if the sound problems persist in the FSO? Thanks, -Dan Staley From: Brian C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Volume? Bastian Muck wrote: julien cubizolles schrieb: | Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit : | Hi, | I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help: | | http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5t=170start=75#p3277 | | I thinks it's the original one. I adjusted this one (increased the Mic2 | from 0 to 50) and nobody complains anymore when I call them... | No, it is not the original one. I adjusted the mono-volume, so everyone can understand me but without echo. Before the adjustment, everyone complained, that i was not loud enough. Greetings Bastian I've read this entire thread a couple of times and there are just so many options in alsamixer that I cannot figure out how to turn up the volume enough so that I can be heard by the person I'm calling. Would someone who has figured this out please place very simple instructions on the wiki? Thanks. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling the phone - anyone found a fix for this? (I know this is really just repeating the question already asked by Dan, but I just signed up to the list and wanted to test it out - so hello everyone) Aaron Staley, Daniel L wrote: I have the mic volume working alright at the moment...but the speaker output in the earpiece seems rather low, as well as the person I'm calling hearing themselves echoed and of course the constant gsm interference sound as well. Can anyone post their .state files that are working well? (If anyone has found a good setting) Also, I heard people were getting good results from the FSO image when calling people. Can anyone who has tried this report on if the sound problems persist in the FSO? Thanks, -Dan Staley From: Brian C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Volume? Bastian Muck wrote: julien cubizolles schrieb: | Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit : | Hi, | I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help: | | http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5t=170start=75#p3277 | | I thinks it's the original one. I adjusted this one (increased the Mic2 | from 0 to 50) and nobody complains anymore when I call them... | No, it is not the original one. I adjusted the mono-volume, so everyone can understand me but without echo. Before the adjustment, everyone complained, that i was not loud enough. Greetings Bastian I've read this entire thread a couple of times and there are just so many options in alsamixer that I cannot figure out how to turn up the volume enough so that I can be heard by the person I'm calling. Would someone who has figured this out please place very simple instructions on the wiki? Thanks. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 julien cubizolles schrieb: | Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit : | Hi, | I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help: | | http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5t=170start=75#p3277 | | I thinks it's the original one. I adjusted this one (increased the Mic2 | from 0 to 50) and nobody complains anymore when I call them... | | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community No, it is not the original one. I adjusted the mono-volume, so everyone can understand me but without echo. Before the adjustment, everyone complained, that i was not loud enough. Greetings Bastian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIhyuClYiDScJJ+7QRAsbyAKD66eKLSJZ4KjQ1+8E+wb5nF0Y6AgCg+D+7 cXtHrJosHIZ5n/A2dzRK07g= =25bz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit : Hi, I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help: http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5t=170start=75#p3277 I thinks it's the original one. I adjusted this one (increased the Mic2 from 0 to 50) and nobody complains anymore when I call them... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Le mardi 15 juillet 2008 à 20:22 +0100, Al Johnson a écrit : Both handset (mic1) and headset (mic2) mics are switched by 'Mic Sidetone Mux' into the channel that passes though 'Mono Sidetone' and 'Mono' volume controls. People I call complain that they don't hear me, as if I were far away, when I use the heaset but not when I use the handset. Increasing the level of mic2 should fix it then ? Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
if you increase the mic2 level you are louder, but you also get an echo :) you should test it with alsamixer while calling. if you like it, you should change the default value for mic2 in the alsapreset. its somewhere in the /usr/share directory, i guess :) if you don't change the preset, you must change the value on every call you make. Phil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
smurfy - phil ??: if you increase the mic2 level you are louder, but you also get an echo :) you should test it with alsamixer while calling. if you like it, you should change the default value for mic2 in the alsapreset. its somewhere in the /usr/share directory, i guess :) if you don't change the preset, you must change the value on every call yes, freerunner image's alsa configuration files located at usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ Tony Tu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 14:27 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber a écrit : After adjusting with alsamixer, you can easily update those files using alsactl -f path-to-statefile store I recommend to make a backup of the *.state before storing it with alsactl Now I wish I had... When playing around with alsamixer (Mic2 setting mostly) I got a good setting at some point but now everything is messed up. Could someone please post a gsmhandset.state he knows is ok ? You have to do this before any other profile is restored, i.e. during call. Will do next time. Thanks, Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Hi, sorry for hijacking the thread but I think this fits a bit: When it comes to volume on the neo I have the impression that the 'main' volume (not sure what the knob is named) is does not scale linear. I mean at level ~90 you dont hear anything and at 100 it is very loud. Could that be fixed so that the full number range (0-100) is used instead? Regards Robert Edward A. Falk schrieb: Is there a way to control volume yet? When I turn on my phone, the sounds are so loud and completely distorted that I'm afraid I'm going to blow out the speakers. (Stand by for my first impressions...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
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Could someone please post a gsmhandset.state he knows is ok ?
Here is the (I suppose) original one.
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control.5 {
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comment.count 2
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iface MIXER
name 'Bypass Playback Volume'
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}
control.7 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
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comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Sidetone Playback Volume'
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control.8 {
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name 'Voice Playback Volume'
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name 'Headphone Playback ZC Switch'
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value.0 false
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comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 7'
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name 'Mono Bypass Playback Volume'
value 0
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control.12 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
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iface MIXER
name 'Mono Sidetone Playback Volume'
value 2
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name 'Mono Voice Playback Volume'
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iface MIXER
name 'Mono Playback ZC Switch'
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Re: Volume?
Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 18:09 +0200, Christophe Badoit a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 julien cubizolles a écrit : Could someone please post a gsmhandset.state he knows is ok ? Here is the (I suppose) original one. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
2008/7/15 Edward A. Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a way to control volume yet? When I turn on my phone, the sounds are so loud and completely distorted that I'm afraid I'm going to blow out the speakers. SSH into the device and type #alsamixer then adjust the sound using the sliders ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Emilis Dambauskas: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SSH into the device and type #alsamixer then adjust the sound using the sliders There are so many of them and they are poorly named... Yesterday I was trying to use hands-free earphones and mic and was struggling to make the mic volume good enough for the other party to hear. Nevermind the loud background buzz (probably from GSM). Is there a documented list anywhere of what each slider / trigger does in alsamixer? Not yet (I need it myself, so maybe I come up with this eventually). And yes, the alsamixer-names are insanely weird. I was told this is *intentionally* for wm8753.c source and relatives to go upstream, because we don't use our mixer chip the way we're supposed to, so we had to live with these weird names. :-/ OWTTE cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SSH into the device and type #alsamixer then adjust the sound using the sliders That did the trick. Headphone and PCM were both at 95%. Setting them to 90% and 80% respectively was a reasonable level. Any lower than that, and I couldn't hear it at all. Obviously, a volume GUI in the topbar is pretty crucial. Personally, I would have made physical buttons for it if I were designing it. There are so many of them and they are poorly named... Yesterday I was trying to use hands-free earphones and mic and was struggling to make the mic volume good enough for the other party to hear. Nevermind the loud background buzz (probably from GSM). Is there a documented list anywhere of what each slider / trigger does in alsamixer? For now, the only ones you care about are the Headphone and PCM volumes. Respectively, these are the master volume and the volume of the software-generated sounds. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Edward A. Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For now, the only ones you care about are the Headphone and PCM volumes. Respectively, these are the master volume and the volume of the software-generated sounds. What about hands-free earphones and mic? -- Emilis [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +370-686-07732 http://emilis.info -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT/CC/MC/O dpu(-) s:- a- C++ UBLHS++ P(+) L+++ E--- W+++$ N+ o-- K? !w O? M-@ V? PS+(--) PE Y+++ PGP t- 5? X+@ R- !tv b+ DI D G e++ h r+++ y --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Emilis Dambauskas wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Edward A. Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For now, the only ones you care about are the Headphone and PCM volumes. Respectively, these are the master volume and the volume of the software-generated sounds. What about hands-free earphones and mic? Look at the .state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ with nice descriptive names. You can use diff to see what changes between the different states, and you will want to edit these to make the changes persistent. I'm still working this out using these and the audio path diagrams on the wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem The mics in particular have several adjustments in the audio path. I _think_ it's something like this: Both handset (mic1) and headset (mic2) mics are switched by 'Mic Sidetone Mux' into the channel that passes though 'Mono Sidetone' and 'Mono' volume controls. headset earphones and speaker are on 'Headphone' Handset earpiece is on 'Speaker' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
SSH into the device and type #alsamixer then adjust the sound using the sliders That did the trick. Headphone and PCM were both at 95%. Setting them to 90% and 80% respectively was a reasonable level. Any lower than that, and I couldn't hear it at all. Glad to be of help Is there a documented list anywhere of what each slider / trigger does in alsamixer? what I did was play a mp3 on the neo and adjusted the alsa sliders via ssh and heard what each slider did ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Al Johnson: On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Emilis Dambauskas wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Edward A. Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For now, the only ones you care about are the Headphone and PCM volumes. Respectively, these are the master volume and the volume of the software-generated sounds. What about hands-free earphones and mic? Look at the .state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ with nice descriptive names. You can use diff to see what changes between the different states, and you will want to edit these to make the changes persistent. I'm still working this out using these and the audio path diagrams on the wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem The mics in particular have several adjustments in the audio path. I _think_ it's something like this: Both handset (mic1) and headset (mic2) mics are switched by 'Mic Sidetone Mux' into the channel that passes though 'Mono Sidetone' and 'Mono' volume controls. headset earphones and speaker are on 'Headphone' Handset earpiece is on 'Speaker' AFAICR, that sounds quite accurate. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume?
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Andy Selby: SSH into the device and type #alsamixer then adjust the sound using the sliders That did the trick. Headphone and PCM were both at 95%. Setting them to 90% and 80% respectively was a reasonable level. Any lower than that, and I couldn't hear it at all. Glad to be of help Is there a documented list anywhere of what each slider / trigger does in alsamixer? what I did was play a mp3 on the neo and adjusted the alsa sliders via ssh and heard what each slider did Only we have quite different controls for PCM-playback and for GSM-call mic and speaker/headset/earpiece audio path. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
